Oh man. Win #17 is Tim's first career shutout. 0 runs, 4 hits, 3 walks, 12 strikeouts, including the last batter, who he blew away with 95 mph fastball. He also knocked his NL leading ERA down .11 points to 2.43. Awesome.
Yes, Lincecum will absolutely win the Cy Young. He is truly amazing.
I wasn't too crazy about leaving him in to pitch the 9th inning with a 7-0 lead -- but I think they wanted to give him his first complete game and the first shutout of his career.
BTW, it was really cool to "watch" this game on the computer becuase Lincecum was pitching againt C Young of San Diego. Get it -- Lincecum was competing against C Young -- and he beat him -- and he'll win the Cy Young Award -- way cool! And it's not like I'm some kinda west-coast San Fran "homer". I live on the East Coast -- staying up until crazy hours to follow the best pitcher in all of baseball!!!
Most pitches (this game...138, and season total...3,365) in the NL this season, and at 170# throwing many 96+MPH on a losing team..... Wake up Bochy!
Like I said earlier... SF will ruin this guy (and Im a Giants fan)
Bruce Needs to THINK long term... I know a complete game Shutout looks good in the stat book, but nearly 140 pitches (with a 7 run lead) this late in the year on a nonpostseason team playing a last place team, come on. I was a pitcher who threw mid 90's myself..... I know that is 15-25 too many for any pitcher let alone a franchise type superstar who goes 110% on most pitches. He does mix in the Circle Change a lot more lately, but that arm speed (and "inverted L" style) and CRAZY hip/shoulder rotation difference is going to bite him one day (soon) IMO.
Its not like Tim throws straight arm Knucklers at 72 MPH
The more success he has on the mound, the more I believe he could be the next great pitcher. As with most young pitchers, it's almost certain he will be injured within a few years( Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, Barry Zito, etc...). What intrigues me is his delivery,obviously unique, seems to be perfected for his body type(if that makes sense). Basically, I'm confident that he'll be successful for a long period of time.
collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.
looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started
they kept him in because of the cy young race with webb and sabathia. the giants have been very careful with him, shutting him down late last season and taking him out early in several games earlier this season. but, when there is pressure to win a cy young...you can bet you'll see more long, high pitch count outings for lincecum in his next 2-3 starts.
he sure is the real thing...at least today. hope he can stay healthy what is his best and most likely psa reg card? Is it the bowman chrome? I do not know new cards and there is draft picks... is it his #217 ????
Collecting PSA... FB,BK,HK,and BB HOF RC sets 1948-76 Topps FB Sets FB & BB HOF Player sets 1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
<< <i>Is he worthy? most definitely Will he win it? I highly doubt it. The fact that Arizona will probably win their division helps Webb. I know that's not Lincecum's fault, but it does weigh in the decision-making. (see 2005 Cy Young)
If he continues to cut down on his walks, he'll be virtually unstoppable. But Brandon Webb led the league in walks 2 years before winning the Cy Young.
I see a Cy Young in his future. Great to watch. >>
I said that on Page 2 of this thread.
Boy was I wrong !!!
Not only about Lincecum, but the D-Backs winning the NL West. Would anyone else care for some crow ? I have plenty to spare.
"what is his best and most likely psa reg card? Is it the bowman chrome? I do not know new cards and there is draft picks... is it his #217 ???? "
I just did some checking on the PSA Population report:
2007 Bowman Chrome #217 -- only 2 have been graded 2007 Upper Deck #918 -- only 6 have been graded -- that's the one I really like! -- nice picture -- mentions his ML debut on the back -- and mentions his amazing college career
Ugh. A "Quality Start" = "Loss" on the Giants. Not a horrible game, 8 innings of work, 3 earned runs, 6 strike outs, zero walks.
He seemed to have figured out how to pitch-to-contact, as he got a lot of guys to ground and pop out. Great for keeping the pitch count down.
So, 17-4, 2.46 era, 243 strikeouts, 77 walks, with one more game to go (or two if they give him the last game of the season). He's just 9 strike outs away from kicking Jason Schmidt off of the franchise best list for strikeouts in a single season.
Tonight's game was winnable for Lincecum. Why did Bochy choose to play Velez in LF tonight? Although it was not ruled an error, the Velez play was the difference in the game.
Timmy brought the thunder in the last game of the season for win #18... 7 innings, 1 run, 13 strikeouts. 9 of those strikeouts came in the first 3 innings!
The Giants bats woke up just long enough to make sure that Lincecum would get the win (instead of a loss). Awesome.
It'll be interesting to see who gets the Cy Young Award. Lincecum, Webb, Sabathia, and Santana all have legit cases. I wonder who the voters will give it to?
"It'll be interesting to see who gets the Cy Young Award. Lincecum, Webb, Sabathia, and Santana all have legit cases. I wonder who the voters will give it to? "
Let me be the first to vote: Tim Lincecum for Cy Young!!
I read an interesting stat a couple of months ago: There have been only 3 pitchers to win 13 more games than they lost while pitching for a team that finished at least 13 games under .500 (I believe that was the correct stat). With an 18-5 record (on a Giants' team that finished the season with a record of 72-90), that makes Linceum only the 4th pitcher ever to have such a great record on such a bad team.
Being a lifetime Dodger fan it pains me to say it, but I hope he wins the Cy Young award. If the second baseman just held onto the throw at second, the Dodgers probably wouldn't have scored today. The game that sticks out to me is the one Tim pitched against the Dodgers earlier in the season. He pitched a few innings, then there was a long rain delay (like over an hour) and he can back and continued to dominate the Dodgers, still throwing in the 98mph heater.
Lincecum has won the 2008 Sporting News NL Pitcher of the Year award, as well as the Players Choice Outstanding Pitcher in the NL Award.
This is by no means a lock for the CYA though. While The Sporting News and the Players Choice Awards are 100% in sync with the AL Cy Young Award in the past 8 years, they've differed most of the time in the NL.
As a bit if trivia...
In 2006, Brandon Webb = NL CY. Johan Santana = TSN and Players Choice. In 2004, Roger Clemens = NL CY. Jason Schmidt = TSN and Players Choice. In 2002, Randy Johnson = NL CY. Curt Schilling = TSN and Players Choice. In 2001, Randy Johnson = NL CY. Curt Schilling = TSN and Players Choice. In 2000, Randy Johnson = NL CY & Players Choice Awards. Tom Glavine = TSN.
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but need to ask about a Lincecum card. I have this bowman sterling, the corners are sharp and the card looks ok, but I'm not sure about top/bottom centering. Others on ebay with good BGS grades are centered similar.
Is this card off-center or is it the design of the card?
<< <i>Is this card off-center or is it the design of the card? >>
Could be the design, but I've seen some with more border on the bottom part of the card. There's a PSA 9 on Ebay right now with slightly more bottom border.
<< <i>What are your thoughts on his best rookie? Here are the two I like >>
His 2007 Bowman Chrome auto or his SPX auto are probably his best $$ cards (w/o considering the various refractor parallels you can find).
I like that Rookie of the Month card too. I'm not so hot on the Bowman Draft card though.
Personal preference: I like the 2007 Topps Emerald Nuts Tim Lincecum, which was given away with a specially packaged team set at AT&T Park during the season. You can find the packs on Ebay now. It would probably be his toughest card in terms of condition, as the set was packaged in a loose foil pouch that let the cards move around. Considering that they were handed out at the stadium, many probaly found themselves being stuffed into backpacks, purses, pockets, etc. Pair that with black borders that chip easily, it has the potential to be very condition sensative. I'm a sucker for stadium giveaway cards though. I've got one of these in with my October submission to PSA right now (along with a Bowman Chrome auto and a Bowman Chrome Xfractor)
For the set registry, this is the card I'll use if he wins the Cy Young Award this year... 2007 Bowman Chrome base set (base set trumps the Draft set).
Comments
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
I wasn't too crazy about leaving him in to pitch the 9th inning with a 7-0 lead -- but I think they wanted to give him his first complete game and the first shutout of his career.
BTW, it was really cool to "watch" this game on the computer becuase Lincecum was pitching againt C Young of San Diego. Get it -- Lincecum was competing against C Young -- and he beat him -- and he'll win the Cy Young Award -- way cool! And it's not like I'm some kinda west-coast San Fran "homer". I live on the East Coast -- staying up until crazy hours to follow the best pitcher in all of baseball!!!
Charlie
Like I said earlier... SF will ruin this guy (and Im a Giants fan)
Bruce Needs to THINK long term... I know a complete game Shutout looks good in the stat book, but nearly 140 pitches (with a 7 run lead) this late in the year on a nonpostseason team playing a last place team, come on. I was a pitcher who threw mid 90's myself..... I know that is 15-25 too many for any pitcher let alone a franchise type superstar who goes 110% on most pitches. He does mix in the Circle Change a lot more lately, but that arm speed (and "inverted L" style) and CRAZY hip/shoulder rotation difference is going to bite him one day (soon) IMO.
Its not like Tim throws straight arm Knucklers at 72 MPH
collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.
looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started
please give him the award now. Leads the league in K's and ERA. best winning percentage. doing it all for one of the crappiest teams in the league.
<< <i>MANCHILD.... lol >>
My wife once said "What is he, 12? I bet he'll be really good when he grows up."
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
hope he can stay healthy
what is his best and most likely psa reg card? Is it the bowman chrome? I do not know new cards and there is draft picks...
is it his #217 ????
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
<< <i>what is his best and most likely psa reg card? Is it the bowman chrome? I do not know new cards and there is draft picks... >>
I'd say it's his 2007 Bowman Chrome #217.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
<< <i>Is he worthy? most definitely
Will he win it? I highly doubt it. The fact that Arizona will probably win their division helps Webb. I know that's not Lincecum's fault, but it does weigh in the decision-making. (see 2005 Cy Young)
If he continues to cut down on his walks, he'll be virtually unstoppable. But Brandon Webb led the league in walks 2 years before winning the Cy Young.
I see a Cy Young in his future. Great to watch. >>
I said that on Page 2 of this thread.
Boy was I wrong !!!
Not only about Lincecum, but the D-Backs winning the NL West. Would anyone else care for some crow ? I have plenty to spare.
Ian
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
is it his #217 ???? "
I just did some checking on the PSA Population report:
2007 Bowman Chrome #217 -- only 2 have been graded
2007 Upper Deck #918 -- only 6 have been graded -- that's the one I really like! -- nice picture -- mentions his ML debut on the back -- and mentions his amazing college career
Charlie
He seemed to have figured out how to pitch-to-contact, as he got a lot of guys to ground and pop out. Great for keeping the pitch count down.
So, 17-4, 2.46 era, 243 strikeouts, 77 walks, with one more game to go (or two if they give him the last game of the season). He's just 9 strike outs away from kicking Jason Schmidt off of the franchise best list for strikeouts in a single season.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
mathew
drugs of choice
NHL hall of fame rookies
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
4.1 innings, 4 earned runs, 5 walks, but 9 strikeouts. He'll probably get the loss unless the Giants do something crazy, but that's unlikely.
His ERA blew up from 2.46 to 2.58, but he still leads the NL.
Of all the teams in the NL, the Rockies have given Lincecum the most trouble.
Well, on a bright note, Tim's 9 strikeouts gives him 252 on the year, which tops Jason Schmidt for the SF franchise single-season K record.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
7 innings, 1 run, 13 strikeouts. 9 of those strikeouts came in the first 3 innings!
The Giants bats woke up just long enough to make sure that Lincecum would get the win (instead of a loss). Awesome.
Timmy's final stats for 2008:
18 wins, 5 losses
2.62 era
1.17 whip
.221 opposing batter avg
227 innings
265 strikeouts, 84 walks
It'll be interesting to see who gets the Cy Young Award. Lincecum, Webb, Sabathia, and Santana all have legit cases. I wonder who the voters will give it to?
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
Let me be the first to vote: Tim Lincecum for Cy Young!!
I read an interesting stat a couple of months ago: There have been only 3 pitchers to win 13 more games than they lost while pitching for a team that finished at least 13 games under .500 (I believe that was the correct stat). With an 18-5 record (on a Giants' team that finished the season with a record of 72-90), that makes Linceum only the 4th pitcher ever to have such a great record on such a bad team.
Charlie
This is by no means a lock for the CYA though. While The Sporting News and the Players Choice Awards are 100% in sync with the AL Cy Young Award in the past 8 years, they've differed most of the time in the NL.
As a bit if trivia...
In 2006, Brandon Webb = NL CY. Johan Santana = TSN and Players Choice.
In 2004, Roger Clemens = NL CY. Jason Schmidt = TSN and Players Choice.
In 2002, Randy Johnson = NL CY. Curt Schilling = TSN and Players Choice.
In 2001, Randy Johnson = NL CY. Curt Schilling = TSN and Players Choice.
In 2000, Randy Johnson = NL CY & Players Choice Awards. Tom Glavine = TSN.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
Is this card off-center or is it the design of the card?
Collecting Tony Perez PSA and Rookie Baseball PSA
<< <i>Is this card off-center or is it the design of the card? >>
Could be the design, but I've seen some with more border on the bottom part of the card. There's a PSA 9 on Ebay right now with slightly more bottom border.
<< <i>What are your thoughts on his best rookie? Here are the two I like >>
His 2007 Bowman Chrome auto or his SPX auto are probably his best $$ cards (w/o considering the various refractor parallels you can find).
I like that Rookie of the Month card too. I'm not so hot on the Bowman Draft card though.
Personal preference: I like the 2007 Topps Emerald Nuts Tim Lincecum, which was given away with a specially packaged team set at AT&T Park during the season. You can find the packs on Ebay now. It would probably be his toughest card in terms of condition, as the set was packaged in a loose foil pouch that let the cards move around. Considering that they were handed out at the stadium, many probaly found themselves being stuffed into backpacks, purses, pockets, etc. Pair that with black borders that chip easily, it has the potential to be very condition sensative. I'm a sucker for stadium giveaway cards though. I've got one of these in with my October submission to PSA right now (along with a Bowman Chrome auto and a Bowman Chrome Xfractor)
For the set registry, this is the card I'll use if he wins the Cy Young Award this year...
2007 Bowman Chrome base set (base set trumps the Draft set).
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25