Some old time dealers told me sliders got their name because they look like brilliant uncirculated coins that were slid across the top of a bar top creating a trace of wear on the high points.
Have heard very similar ... the traces of a slide across a counter or bar, from cabinet friction, from the slides of old albums.
Dealers sometimes used (still use) this to help their buying prices. What would have passed only as a "slider" back in 89-92 (and probably before) to a decerning eye, was quite often marketed as a Choice to Gem Unc.
Funny thing is, now that these have been being slabbed more often over the last decade (on purpose), even the TPG's often give out 62-64 grades for some of the best "sliders". The difference between what a high end 58 and a 62/3 coin is often a very fine line (pun intended).
Here's a pretty decent "slider" ... or is in an Unc????
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Agreed!!! This is an A++++ post! If I was just starting my Dansco 7070 set today, I would buy only PQ AU58s. Heck with all of those run of the mill 61-63s for twice the $$$ or more in many cases.
JRocco's 1808 CBH with fatigued dies on page one of this post is a great coin! Love the look of that...plus its got some personality with the stretched star points etc.
That Isabella on page one is a helluva 58 too! Wow! Some great 58's here.
This is my WTF! It is a transitional reverse variety not listed by Wiley and Bugert in their fantastic book and it was quite the BIN cherry on ebay. Only thing was it was supposed to be MS63 so said the seller, so said my eyes, so said the picutes, so said the in hand inspection, but NOT so says PCGS. My forty bucks got me an AU58 and a broken heart!
<< <i>This is my WTF! It is a transitional reverse variety not listed by Wiley and Bugert in their fantastic book and it was quite the BIN cherry on ebay. Only thing was it was supposed to be MS63 so said the seller, so said my eyes, so said the picutes, so said the in hand inspection, but NOT so says PCGS. My forty bucks got me an AU58 and a broken heart!
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No fun to go on being continually heartbroken on that one... you should dump it!
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<< <i>This is my WTF! It is a transitional reverse variety not listed by Wiley and Bugert in their fantastic book and it was quite the BIN cherry on ebay. Only thing was it was supposed to be MS63 so said the seller, so said my eyes, so said the picutes, so said the in hand inspection, but NOT so says PCGS. My forty bucks got me an AU58 and a broken heart!
<< <i>Why are Au58 called sliders, I realize that this has to be one dumb question, but I never really knew why. Let me just say that I would think AU58's may be called sliders because they can be a ms63 the next time it is graded therefore they just slide by the last time they were graded and unfortunately got the au58 grade and not the higher ms63? >>
Some old time dealers told me sliders got their name because they look like brilliant uncirculated coins that were slid across the top of a bar top creating a trace of wear on the high points. These coins are also called commercial uncs and Coin World uncs. >>
I thought "commercial uncs" and Coin World uncs were "EF details, improperly cleaned". That was my experience buying an "BU" Indian Cent out of one of those big ads.
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Have heard very similar ... the traces of a slide across a counter or bar, from cabinet friction, from the slides of old albums.
Dealers sometimes used (still use) this to help their buying prices. What would have passed only as a "slider" back in 89-92 (and probably before) to a decerning eye, was quite often marketed as a Choice to Gem Unc.
Funny thing is, now that these have been being slabbed more often over the last decade (on purpose), even the TPG's often give out 62-64 grades for some of the best "sliders". The difference between what a high end 58 and a 62/3 coin is often a very fine line (pun intended).
Here's a pretty decent "slider" ... or is in an Unc????
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
- Jim
Man I hate those foggy spots like the ones on the reverse pic; seen lots of them over time. I wonder if they come new like that.
1894-O PCGS au58.
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That Isabella on page one is a helluva 58 too! Wow! Some great 58's here.
Greg Hansen, Melbourne, FL Click here for any current EBAY auctions Multiple "Circle of Trust" transactions over 14 years on forum
There are some awesome coins in here!!!
I've shown this one a few times recently ... still in an old ANACS holder ... AU58
whispy slides on the thigh and breast
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
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<< <i>This is my WTF! It is a transitional reverse variety not listed by Wiley and Bugert in their fantastic book and it was quite the BIN cherry on ebay. Only thing was it was supposed to be MS63 so said the seller, so said my eyes, so said the picutes, so said the in hand inspection, but NOT so says PCGS. My forty bucks got me an AU58 and a broken heart!
No fun to go on being continually heartbroken on that one... you should dump it!
Yes, it is in an AU58 holder.
I like this thread a lot
And this one, now i just gotta get some good pics of it
<< <i>This is my WTF! It is a transitional reverse variety not listed by Wiley and Bugert in their fantastic book and it was quite the BIN cherry on ebay. Only thing was it was supposed to be MS63 so said the seller, so said my eyes, so said the picutes, so said the in hand inspection, but NOT so says PCGS. My forty bucks got me an AU58 and a broken heart!
Sweet AU58!
--- the scratches are on the old holder ---
---This is now in a PCGS AU 58 holder ---
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<< <i>Here are some worn Indians:
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Bigger images would be nice!
<< <i>Hey Broadstruck, would you call this a super slider stress crack????
She looks like she's been working out with Iggy Pop!
<< <i>Bigger images would be nice!
Well, exuuuuuuuse me.
jom
<< <i>I've shown my PCGS 1893-s Barber Half before, but since I never get tired of admiring it, I'm showing it again.
and neither can I :
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<< <i>1857 FE AU58 PCGS = 153 >>
Thank you, IWantNonCC's.
- Jim
Italy 50 Lire in gold, commemorating 50th anniversary of the Kingdom of Italy, NGC AU-58
<< <i>I've got just one other AU58... but IMO it's a stunner
That's not a shabby pedigree either as the man was a great surfer!
A 1925 5 Litai from Lithuania.
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<< <i>Why are Au58 called sliders, I realize that this has to be one dumb question, but I never really knew why. Let me just say that I would think AU58's may be called sliders because they can be a ms63 the next time it is graded therefore they just slide by the last time they were graded and unfortunately got the au58 grade and not the higher ms63?
Some old time dealers told me sliders got their name because they look like brilliant uncirculated coins that were slid across the top of a bar top creating a trace of wear on the high points. These coins are also called commercial uncs and Coin World uncs. >>
I thought "commercial uncs" and Coin World uncs were "EF details, improperly cleaned". That was my experience buying an "BU" Indian Cent out of one of those big ads.
Obscurum per obscurius
Greg Hansen, Melbourne, FL Click here for any current EBAY auctions Multiple "Circle of Trust" transactions over 14 years on forum
Both of these were cracked out of NGC-58 holders. The 1829 is now AU-50 and the 1834 (bad pics) was bagged.
-Randy Newman
<< <i>20 years to find a nice MS... then a AU64 comes along and ends the search
I hate you.
jom
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