Funny thing happened when I was in Fla. last week at a Fleamarket.
YaHa
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Well of course I did make a few great buys and saved another lady from getting sued by the dealer she was working for.
Also saved a nice lady thousands of dollars from a Shark out of water.
I went to a Fleamarket in Bonita Springs Florida, had sometime before the post-time started for the dog track. While walking through the huge tents or buildings if you call them that, I stop at a coin case, was looking with one eye at some coins, and the other eye and I saw a clean cut guy talking to a lady with some gold rings, Jewelry and she had a little pouch of St Gaudens $20 gold coins. What happened next made me want to smack this M.F in the jaw.
As he was showing the lady how they can tell what carat of gold they have in their jewerly and after finishing with the rings and other misc, gold items, he got one of her St Gaudens and scraped it against his gold atominator and told the lady the coin just barely made 14k gold and was comparing tint or whatever they do with her other gold rings.
Well as a good laddie like I am, I butted in and ask a price of a coin this guy had in a case and told the lady WOW!! nice gold coins I told her huge payday for those bad boys, she looked at me and then the dealer and grab her stuff and told the crook she would be back later today with her husband to do the deal.
I saw the lady at the pizza place down the way in the tents and told her do your research about gold coins, I told her those St Gaudens have at least 20k to 22k worth of real gold in them. She told me the dude offered her $250 a piece, she said the $1,000 offer sounded good to her because these were her fathers that he had and recently passed away. She told me she didn't know nothing about coins and also she didn't have a husband either because of a divorce. I told her to again do your homework, maybe try Ebay or go to a local coin show and tell the dealer what you want because you know they are worth at least Melt in the condition they were in, they seem at least Au at worse. The lady offer to buy my boy and me our lunch. I said be careful when you come into places like this. Boy I wished I had some extra cash that day I would of offerred her at least $1,100 for the set of four.
Then later on the journey on the otherside I stopped at another booth, and the lady had about 20 old notes in a rubberband, the first few were old $1 silver certificates and had a price on a little piece of paper that said any note is $5 in this pile. Well I told the lady that's a great deal, I will buy them all, but knew something was wrong because it had a $5 woodchopper note in fine, It had a $2 note George Washington, and had about 5 $1 Hawai notes a few $5 Africa notes in fine to Vf plus a few other horse blanket notes. So, I told her are you serious she said yes that's what the owner told me to sell this pile for, I told her you better call the owner and let him know there is at least a grand of US notes or more in this pile and I would of bought them for $100 like I offered but I am not a thief. Well she called and he told her to put me on the phone, I had a chat with him and he asked to look around his shop to see if other things look not in the right price. I told him just noticed the US notes wrapped up, he told me to pick one note that I wanted from the Hawai notes or African notes and for my honesty I get it free.
So I pick the $5 African War note, I would say it's Au. Also while scanning the pits of other shops I bought 3 nice 1899 black eagles for $40 a piece in Fine condition. All and all nice Fleamarket hunt in bowels of Florida.
Ny son told me he doesn't understand how people seem to connect to me and give me nice things and comments. I told him until the day he dies he must represent the lord in only one way, what would he do. Education is very important in any hobby you get into. I also told him, that I have been scammed many times before because of not doing my homework. He tells me dad you are ok. Then we go to the track to watch the dogs, he wins a Triple bet for $1 and it pays $180.00, he offers me half, I tell him thanks but it is his money. Later I ask him how much he has left and he tells me $155.00 I asked where did the other $25 go, he told me the crane game got him, you know the one with little animals and watches in it, I told him BOy I told you to educate yourself, he told me it's his money. Go Figure. Kids these days play both sides, he's a good boy though.
Also saved a nice lady thousands of dollars from a Shark out of water.
I went to a Fleamarket in Bonita Springs Florida, had sometime before the post-time started for the dog track. While walking through the huge tents or buildings if you call them that, I stop at a coin case, was looking with one eye at some coins, and the other eye and I saw a clean cut guy talking to a lady with some gold rings, Jewelry and she had a little pouch of St Gaudens $20 gold coins. What happened next made me want to smack this M.F in the jaw.
As he was showing the lady how they can tell what carat of gold they have in their jewerly and after finishing with the rings and other misc, gold items, he got one of her St Gaudens and scraped it against his gold atominator and told the lady the coin just barely made 14k gold and was comparing tint or whatever they do with her other gold rings.
Well as a good laddie like I am, I butted in and ask a price of a coin this guy had in a case and told the lady WOW!! nice gold coins I told her huge payday for those bad boys, she looked at me and then the dealer and grab her stuff and told the crook she would be back later today with her husband to do the deal.
I saw the lady at the pizza place down the way in the tents and told her do your research about gold coins, I told her those St Gaudens have at least 20k to 22k worth of real gold in them. She told me the dude offered her $250 a piece, she said the $1,000 offer sounded good to her because these were her fathers that he had and recently passed away. She told me she didn't know nothing about coins and also she didn't have a husband either because of a divorce. I told her to again do your homework, maybe try Ebay or go to a local coin show and tell the dealer what you want because you know they are worth at least Melt in the condition they were in, they seem at least Au at worse. The lady offer to buy my boy and me our lunch. I said be careful when you come into places like this. Boy I wished I had some extra cash that day I would of offerred her at least $1,100 for the set of four.
Then later on the journey on the otherside I stopped at another booth, and the lady had about 20 old notes in a rubberband, the first few were old $1 silver certificates and had a price on a little piece of paper that said any note is $5 in this pile. Well I told the lady that's a great deal, I will buy them all, but knew something was wrong because it had a $5 woodchopper note in fine, It had a $2 note George Washington, and had about 5 $1 Hawai notes a few $5 Africa notes in fine to Vf plus a few other horse blanket notes. So, I told her are you serious she said yes that's what the owner told me to sell this pile for, I told her you better call the owner and let him know there is at least a grand of US notes or more in this pile and I would of bought them for $100 like I offered but I am not a thief. Well she called and he told her to put me on the phone, I had a chat with him and he asked to look around his shop to see if other things look not in the right price. I told him just noticed the US notes wrapped up, he told me to pick one note that I wanted from the Hawai notes or African notes and for my honesty I get it free.
So I pick the $5 African War note, I would say it's Au. Also while scanning the pits of other shops I bought 3 nice 1899 black eagles for $40 a piece in Fine condition. All and all nice Fleamarket hunt in bowels of Florida.
Ny son told me he doesn't understand how people seem to connect to me and give me nice things and comments. I told him until the day he dies he must represent the lord in only one way, what would he do. Education is very important in any hobby you get into. I also told him, that I have been scammed many times before because of not doing my homework. He tells me dad you are ok. Then we go to the track to watch the dogs, he wins a Triple bet for $1 and it pays $180.00, he offers me half, I tell him thanks but it is his money. Later I ask him how much he has left and he tells me $155.00 I asked where did the other $25 go, he told me the crane game got him, you know the one with little animals and watches in it, I told him BOy I told you to educate yourself, he told me it's his money. Go Figure. Kids these days play both sides, he's a good boy though.
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I've only been to the Flea Market in Bonita Springs, Florida, once and there was only one
coin dealer there who seemed honest enough...one thing that I remembered about him
was that he spoke in an unusual manner - my girlfriend said it was a "...Sing-Song Voice...".
I didn't try and sell to him - nor buy from him as his inventory was basically modern proof sets.
I'd be interested in knowing if this were the same dealer.
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Can you post a picture of that Africa War Note?
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<< <i>Every coin kiosk in every flea market I have been to (Fl, AZ, CA, NC, TX, WA) has been a ripoff.... overhyped, overpriced and pushed by individuals who think they know something and act like experts. A load of human trash. Cheers, RickO >>
That was my impression of a few of the dealers I saw at my first Long Beach show years ago. I'm glad I finally met Karl Stephens and some of the good guys, though. Otherwise I think I'd have been soured on coin shows.
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<< <i>I gotta hand it to ya, YaHa.
You MAKE Up the very best stories.
Have you published any of your fiction?
Ray >>
True Blue story Ray, it bugs me though that during this gold and metals hipe, plus the slow down in the economy that people are rushing out to melt their old jewelry and coins to places that I mentioned. I get scared to death to try to get top dollar at coin shows. But again true blue, I hope you weren't the guy that I peed off at the market? Be good Ray. Yaha
<< <i>Boy I wished I had some extra cash that day I would of offerred her at least $1,100 for the set of four. >>
Please tell me I am reading this wrong. You wanted to smack the dealer in tha jaw for offering her $1,000 for four $20 Saints, yet if you had the cash you would have offered her only $100 more than the crooked dealer. That just ain't right.
If you want to branch out, you may also want to police some of the 'hotel coin and bullion buyers'. One of the major wholesale buyers who frequently sets up at the bigger shows was bragging to a dealer friend of mine recently about how lucrative this business is....he buys old commems brought in as junk silver bullion (actually less than bullion value), and also cherried a '93S Morgan in VF for $10, because $10 is the going rate paid for all Morgan dollars.....my friend about puked after hearing this. I'm sure there's a special warm place reserved somewhere for guys like this!
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<< <i>Boy I wished I had some extra cash that day I would of offerred her at least $1,100 for the set of four. >>
Please tell me I am reading this wrong. You wanted to smack the dealer in tha jaw for offering her $1,000 for four $20 Saints, yet if you had the cash you would have offered her only $100 more than the crooked dealer. That just ain't right.
I hope you saw the little green funny at the end of that statement. It was a funny no pun intended. I always will do my part in life my fellow coin hobbiests, I know thing when I kneel below the feet of my oh mighty I want him to tap me on the head instead of cracking it with a iron pipe and then states I thought I created you better than that, must be the some bad bunny batteries I put in your head boy.
I'm sure such screw jobs happen all the time. Probably most of the dealers that post here have pulled off these deals.
<< <i>Very good story, thanks for sharing - you are a hero, YaHa.
If you want to branch out, you may also want to police some of the 'hotel coin and bullion buyers'. One of the major wholesale buyers who frequently sets up at the bigger shows was bragging to a dealer friend of mine recently about how lucrative this business is....he buys old commems brought in as junk silver bullion (actually less than bullion value), and also cherried a '93S Morgan in VF for $10, because $10 is the going rate paid for all Morgan dollars.....my friend about puked after hearing this. I'm sure there's a special warm place reserved somewhere for guys like this! >>
what dealer was that?
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