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Grade Revealed -- 1897-O ICG AU-58 Morgan Dollar -- Post Your Comments & Observations
Stuart
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Welcome to this Independence Day episode of the grading reality show Guess the Grade.
I invite you to guess the grade of this 1897-O Morgan Dollar by voting in the poll, and also encourage you to please post your grading criteria, comments and observations to keep this thread both lively and active.
1897-O Morgan Dollar -- Guess the Grade
I invite you to guess the grade of this 1897-O Morgan Dollar by voting in the poll, and also encourage you to please post your grading criteria, comments and observations to keep this thread both lively and active.
1897-O Morgan Dollar -- Guess the Grade
Stuart
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The hair & ear are certainly flat, but the reverse eagle looks pretty well defined.
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Cool die crack along the word "united" on the reverse.
For the 1886-O, 1896-O, and 1897-O dates, 99% of "BU looking" coins are actually slider AU58s, so these are not something you should buy raw at a coin show as "BU", unless you enjoy inflicting financial misery upon yourself. These dates are among the traps in the Morgan dollar series that have burned a lot of new collectors.
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<< <i>Typical O Morgan. I thought it had average marks, but lowish luster. Gave it 63. >>
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Wear = AU If the coin were UNC MS62 at best. The eye appeal is well below average due to strike luster and overall color.
The wear is minimla hence AU58 (Super Slider)
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I'll go with an MS63, there are bag marks in the field but not enough to be a 60, 61, or even a 62... so I'll toss a 63 at your coin. I think 64s and 65s are a bit cleaner but, it could well grade 64 as well.
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To me the feilds look to clear to be a 58.
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Nice one Stuart
Not likely that Stuart would have paid 62 or 63 money for such a key date unless it looked to be 64. And these cost a lot once you are in 63 land. 64's get you near 5 figures.
I'd vote for 61 as too many people have picked the 58 grade. The has a bit of scuffiness in the fields but no obvious "flat" rubbing not attributable to strike. The discoloration on the highpoints is always a concern. Could go either way. Then again, I'd only be a buyer of said coin if graded 58 or lower.
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After carefully visually inspecting this coin, I can see no actual circulation wear and no apparent luster breaks on the high points of either the obverse or the reverse.
The astute forum members split their vote evenly between MS-63 and AU-58 as follows:
- MS-65 or Higher :-) 3 (votes) 3.66 (%)
- MS-64 6 (votes) 7.32 (%)
- MS-63 24 (votes) 29.27 (%)
- MS-62 9 (votes) 10.98 (%)
- MS-61 5 (votes) 6.10 (%)
- MS-60 1 (votes) 1.22 (%)
- AU-58 23 (votes) 28.05 (%)
- AU-55 or Lower :-( 11 (votes) 13.41 (%)
Grade Revealed: 1897-O ICG AU-58 Morgan DollarStuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
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<< <i>goes to show you that from a picture, grading a coin that is between au58 and ms62 is the absolute hardest thing to do. >>
Not if it's a condition rarity Morgan. That will make the usually foggy 58/62-63 line into a nearly sure-thing 58.