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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>VAM's for Morgans, peace'a now this, I do own several Ty-2 and 6's but I don't think these will ever catch on. >>



    What is this supposed to mean?

    Type 2's will never catch on?

    Type 6's will never catch on?

    Or this currently "one of a kind" Prototpe will never catch on?

    What? image
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,571 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After all these years of searching for errors and anomalies , varieties, etc... I just joined CONECA thanks to this thread. image
    I don't know why I never did before, the information is vital to easing the search.
  • <<That "First Day's Strike Ike" (at least that has a ring of authenticity, LOL) must have been a common 71-S Proof in most part if not entirely as a catalog photo of Lee's Ikes would have stirred up a hornets nest of interest. >>


    All ordinary 1971 S proofs have incuse touchup on the reverse that can usually be at least partially seen in pictures.
    I see none in that picture and I think I should if it had any. This is getting very interesting. Keep digging Rob, and I hope you don't have a nervous breakdown by the workshop time.
  • Hi, ProofArtWorkOnCircs! Having too much fun to break down, LOL.

    Can't promise I won't disassemble during the Workshop but there will be two Ike Group members there to pick up the pieces if I do. . .

    Just wish you could be there. Rob
    Modern dollars are like children - before you know it they'll be all grown up.....

    Questions about Ikes? Go to The IKE GROUP WEB SITE
  • I have been busy lately and missed this incredible announcement!! Lee, what an exciting find! Congrats to you for having such a good eye!

    Aaron
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Thank You Aaron!

    BTW, I am doing everything I can to have the Prototype available for the "New IKEs Workshop" at the Baltimore ANA Money show.

    So....if anybody has any interest at all in Eisenhower Dollars, be sure to make it to this workshop on Friday between 1 and 4. Yes, there is a little conflict with the PCGS Registry luncheon which ends at 1:30 but Rob will run the workshop accordingly.

    I hope to see you all there.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • Lee! That's great news! Though it won't be quite the same holding plastic instead of the naked Ike, I can't wait to see it again.

    By the way, if a reader has not been tracking this threat, Lee's Ike is one the great modern coin cherries and possibly one of the great coin cherries of all time. Akin to finding a great modern painting hidden under a garage sale reproduction. Great going, Lee!


    Rob

    Modern dollars are like children - before you know it they'll be all grown up.....

    Questions about Ikes? Go to The IKE GROUP WEB SITE
  • Lee, I hope you have the pattern with you at the New Ike Workshop. If not, it will still be great to meet you and other Ike enthusiasts.

    Looking forward to the session, Rob.

    Who else on the forum is planning to attend?

    Aaron

  • GandyjaiGandyjai Posts: 1,380 ✭✭
    I'll be there......All the way from Florida!

    Brian

    I Love image Variety & Error Ikes! image
  • Aaron and Brian, it's great that you will be coming to the New Ikes Workshop, just be aware that you will be put to work:
    Aaron, I'll ask you to chaparone the Partial Peg Leg examples as three are yours;
    Brian, how about you chaparone the silver Peg Legs?
    James Sego, if you come (please do!) love your input on the 100 toned Ikes that will circulate, most NT, a few outrageous AT?
    Lee, if your amazing Ike is available for the Workshop, would you please be its chaparone?
    Andy, would you chaparone the 1972 T2's (we have two die pairs to present) and the possible new RDV "Shadow Ike"?

    You get the idea: we'll be learning from each other as a raft of "New Ikes" are presented. About 20 topics, each with summary projected transparancy I'll review and poop sheets for each participant.

    Some Ikes, like the FEV and most of the die clash examples (peg legs, talon heads, etc) will have many dozens of examples for simultaneous distribution, presentation and discussion. A few, like the rare '71-S Silver BS Peg Legs and Lee's Ike will circulate over time individually to all the participants.

    It will be a challenging workshop but you'll learn how to cherry a host of Ikes that will inevitably become integral to the series and see first hand why Ikes are so interesting. Rob
    Modern dollars are like children - before you know it they'll be all grown up.....

    Questions about Ikes? Go to The IKE GROUP WEB SITE
  • bronze6827bronze6827 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭
    Andy, would you chaparone the 1972 T2's (we have two die pairs to present) and the possible new RDV "Shadow Ike"?

    Roger that Ghostrider.
  • "Roger that Ghostrider."

    SHOOT! I promised Herb I wouldn't bring up ghosts, dang it! Rob
    Modern dollars are like children - before you know it they'll be all grown up.....

    Questions about Ikes? Go to The IKE GROUP WEB SITE
  • GandyjaiGandyjai Posts: 1,380 ✭✭
    << Brian, how about you chaparone the silver Peg Legs?>>

    Sure! I'd love to!

    As long as you have me in the Silver Ike Section....How about some 71-S attributed UDU's as well?

    UDU = the Upside Down U seen between the E of WE and Ikes neck...seen in the latest edition of Billy Crawford's
    Die Variety News....(page 46)

    Brian

    I Love image Variety & Error Ikes! image
  • Brian, that's a deal - I have one partial UDU 71-S Silver, can you bring one or two? Rob
    Modern dollars are like children - before you know it they'll be all grown up.....

    Questions about Ikes? Go to The IKE GROUP WEB SITE
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Lee

    Congrats. Love to see the Ike series getting some solid press!!!

    May show up, just depends on how busy the table is. It's me and my daughter.
    JMSCoins Website Link


    Ike Specialist

    Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986

    image
  • Heck, James, Brian can run your table for a few minutes, though with that big 'gaitor on a leash he might scare away some of your customers. . . Rob
    Modern dollars are like children - before you know it they'll be all grown up.....

    Questions about Ikes? Go to The IKE GROUP WEB SITE
  • GandyjaiGandyjai Posts: 1,380 ✭✭
    Rob,
    I have (3) ANACS attributed 71-S UDU's I can bring plus the one that is in the Die Variety News.

    I can't get my gator past security, but snakes are real easy to smuggle onto a plane. The problem is,
    if they get loose during the flight....all he11 breaks loose! And you thought that only oxygen masks
    drop down from the ceiling?!image

    Brian

    I Love image Variety & Error Ikes! image
  • Rob, I'd be glad to help, and look forward to learning all the latest news and seeing them in hand.
    Aaron
  • Aaron, many thanks! We're all going to have a ball and learn from each other while I take the workshop through our major new Ike discoveries.

    Everybody who attends and pays attention will learn how to cherry new Ike varieties that inevitably will become integral to the series. Rob
    Modern dollars are like children - before you know it they'll be all grown up.....

    Questions about Ikes? Go to The IKE GROUP WEB SITE
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin is labeled as a proof since the quality and workmanship screams proof.

    Congrats on the find.

    I always have felt that the 1972-1976 S-mint silver "blue" Ikes were actually Matte Proofs although they were sold as "Uncirculated" pieces. Their quality, when compared side-by-side with the silver Proofs, are indistinguishable! Compare their edges and frosted areas close-up and there is no difference! Only the mirrored fields on the Proofs seperate them.

    The 1971-S' "Uncs" were made the regular production method and suffered in quality. Perhaps late in the year they experimentented with better production quality as seen on the 1972's' and later. If you call this a proof, don't you have to call all the 1972-1976 "Uncirculated" pieces Proofs as well?
    Rick Snow, Eagle Eye Rare Coins, Inc.Check out my new web site:
  • Rick, interesting conjecture!

    The '71-S BS silver was theoretically struck in low relief. One expert I talked to recently felt it might have been double struck as details are uniformly sharp and relief seems a bit greater (I guess the relief could look greater if double struck even if it wasn't measurably higher?).

    Putting the double strike issue aside, if the '71-S silver has measurably higher relief than the circulation 71 Ikes, then it hails from a different master hub and one should be able to see different added artwork than that present on the '71 circulation Ikes, artwork employed presumably to provide improved visual detail and contrast.

    That is, the exact detailing of the brow line, the separation of the top two tail feathers, the detailing on the Eagles left wing feathers and the detailing of the body reathers should be at least subtly different. Ditto the craters. I don't think any of this detailing is different but will have to check it out.

    The Mint stated that BS silvers were struck on high-speed presses, we think possibly the same two-chamber Columbia presses used for Ikes at Philly and Denver. About 10% of the '71-S silvers show subtle but distinctive evidence of die clash, good evidence that the same problematic feeder fingers that created so many clashed Ikes at Denver were causing problems at San Francisco, too. Philly, with its ready supply of dies, discarded its heavily clashed dies and likely the S-Mint did, too, so it's the Denver's that show major clash damage in greater abundance.

    I do not know if high-speed presses can be cycled for double strikes.

    And, I have seen no examples of double struck BS silver Ikes, and if done at high speed I think there would be quite a few such?

    So, the BS silver Ikes are distinct from Proof Ikes. But your point is really interesting in that the BS silvers were struck in a style that overlaps the style of Lee's Ike and it's clear that the BS silvers have better strike quality and handling than the same-year circulation Ikes (with the exception that the 71'S BS silvers were shipped to NYC in 1,000 coin bags and suffered greatly therefrom, but even these mis-treated silvers all have decent hair details, for example).

    I think we both are saying that Lee's Ike is a kind of "stem cell" Ike with both the BS silvers and the Proofs its progeny. Rob

    Modern dollars are like children - before you know it they'll be all grown up.....

    Questions about Ikes? Go to The IKE GROUP WEB SITE
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,708 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The coin is labeled as a proof since the quality and workmanship screams proof.

    Congrats on the find.

    I always have felt that the 1972-1976 S-mint silver "blue" Ikes were actually Matte Proofs although they were sold as "Uncirculated" pieces. Their quality, when compared side-by-side with the silver Proofs, are indistinguishable! Compare their edges and frosted areas close-up and there is no difference! Only the mirrored fields on the Proofs seperate them.

    The 1971-S' "Uncs" were made the regular production method and suffered in quality. Perhaps late in the year they experimentented with better production quality as seen on the 1972's' and later. If you call this a proof, don't you have to call all the 1972-1976 "Uncirculated" pieces Proofs as well? >>



    Rick,
    Having seen the discovery piece, I can say that in my opinion the discovery piece is of much better quality than the 1972-S Blue Pack.
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The coin is labeled as a proof since the quality and workmanship screams proof.

    Congrats on the find.

    I always have felt that the 1972-1976 S-mint silver "blue" Ikes were actually Matte Proofs although they were sold as "Uncirculated" pieces. Their quality, when compared side-by-side with the silver Proofs, are indistinguishable! Compare their edges and frosted areas close-up and there is no difference! Only the mirrored fields on the Proofs seperate them.

    The 1971-S' "Uncs" were made the regular production method and suffered in quality. Perhaps late in the year they experimentented with better production quality as seen on the 1972's' and later. If you call this a proof, don't you have to call all the 1972-1976 "Uncirculated" pieces Proofs as well? >>



    Rick,
    Having seen the discovery piece, I can say that in my opinion the discovery piece is of much better quality than the 1972-S Blue Pack.
    TD >>



    I totally agree Tom. This particular coin is unlike any IKE I've ever seen strike wise.

    But then, I haven't had this in my hands for what, 4 months now? image


    I am so-o-o-o-o ready to get reunited with it come August! image
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!


  • << <i>

    << <i>
    So, boys and girls, check your '71 Ike proofs for the T1 reverse and for Lee's Prototype. In both cases the Earth is the screening marker. Rob >>

    >>



    Lee

    Could you explain this further. Would this new Ike of yours be found in a Brown Box 1971-S? If so would not the non proof like detail be a dead give away. Or am I missing something?

    P.S. I plan on being in Baltimore and would not miss this workshop.

    Cliff
    RACC
    I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    I doubt that this coin was in a brown box based upon the image of lot 4575 from the Flannagan Sale of Nov 29th – Dec 1st, 2001 by Bowers and Merena but I suppose it is possible.

    It's specific origins could only be speculation.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,708 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FWIW, it does not have the funky toning often found on 1971-S Brown Ikes.
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's a shot of it before it left my grasp last February:

    image

    image

    image

    image
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Update in first thread.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool find Lee.... congratulations.... Cheers, RickO
  • rgCoinGuyrgCoinGuy Posts: 7,478
    Great find, and a great story to go with it, congrats!
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Aegis3, many thanks.

    The pictured Ike is not Lee's. Hard to tell much about the Earth but this Ike is a Peg Leg, the design minted in December, and as far as I can tell otherwise it's consistent with the common production '71-S Proof. >>



    Is it possible that the Ike the letter refers to is in fact not the Ike included in the lot, that there was a switch sometime? Alternatively, what would it mean (with regards to hub changes &c) if this normal design proof Ike was struck in August '71 or earlier?
    --

    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    your find, work and persistence resulted in a rare and unique coin......

    thanks for sharing all the info

    how much did you pay for it? (if it hadn't been mentioned earlier...i tend not to read all the threads in a post)

    image

    btw way i assume the other tpg's don't recognize the attribution?
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Aegis3, many thanks.

    The pictured Ike is not Lee's. Hard to tell much about the Earth but this Ike is a Peg Leg, the design minted in December, and as far as I can tell otherwise it's consistent with the common production '71-S Proof. >>



    Is it possible that the Ike the letter refers to is in fact not the Ike included in the lot, that there was a switch sometime? Alternatively, what would it mean (with regards to hub changes &c) if this normal design proof Ike was struck in August '71 or earlier? >>



    I would think a switcheroo would be out of the question here primarily because if such a thing did occur, then the Auction House's integrity could be called into question. I would expect that they protected this particular lot to prevent such an occurance.

    As for the letter, the date totally contradicts the US Mints published figures so I just don't know what to say. Would it be possible that the letter was authored on the 10th of August in anticipation of the September production run of 2,180 coins? I don't know and the fellows who do know have long passed away.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • Aegis and 57, Lee may be on his way to Baltimore so I'll take a stab.

    I bet there were any number of different Ike Proofs with minor obverse design changes produced while Gasparro tinkered with minor design changes.

    IMHO it is more likely than not that the initial HR (Proof) design had a serif-R in LIBERTY. The 1970 Galvano R has small serifs but my guess is the first move was to enlarge the serifs in harmony with the large serifs we see on the first low relief Ike, the FEV.

    Then the high relief obverse R went to a straight ("full") Peg Leg, the design on the December-minted 1971-S Proofs. This peg leg faded badly with the proof die retreatments needed to sustain a high proportion of cameo proofs so production was halted late in December. In March 72 minting of the 71 proof resumed, now with the "Funny Foot" Serif-R.

    Against this background we have Lee's Ike which has both proof and BS characeristics and therefore is possibly/likely a very early design, dating before Gasparro realized the low relief Ikes would require a different design.

    Lee's Ike has die abrasion under the R's original Galvano-sized serifs, creating almost a peg leg so I think the move to peg leg was underway early on.

    The Ike we really can't quite see that was presented to Amon Carter on August 10th, was described as a "first day's strike". Ignore that designation. Since it has mirrors and different obverse LIBERTY letters (a peg leg and a really lop-sided "Y"), it is not Lee's Ike for sure and probably came along sometime later, how much later is up for grabs. Its reverse may have the Galvanno's Earth which would really be interesting.

    This Aug 10 Ike is clearly different than the production '71-S Ike.
    Its presentation is consistent with preparations for the miniscule amount of Ike Proofs minted in September (or just collected from the trial proofs closest to the design finally minted in December). The Mint must have been trying desparately to get some Proof Ikes out for publicity: sending one to the Editor of the Star-Telegram seems like a good move in that light.

    Rob
    Modern dollars are like children - before you know it they'll be all grown up.....

    Questions about Ikes? Go to The IKE GROUP WEB SITE
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>your find, work and persistence resulted in a rare and unique coin......

    thanks for sharing all the info

    how much did you pay for it? (if it hadn't been mentioned earlier...i tend not to read all the threads in a post)

    image

    btw way i assume the other tpg's don't recognize the attribution? >>



    Less than $10 for this one!

    As for the other TPG's grading or attributing the coin, this is next on the list of "things to do". ANACS was the logical first choice since JP Martin, who works for ANACS, was recommended on several levels by several different experts.

    We do plan on showing the coin to Ron Guth and David Hall to get their opinions at the ANA show. If PCGS would slab it as a Prototype Strike, I'd be very pleased but for now, simply having the coin authenticated and recognized by the leading experts in the field is fine by me!

    Now what do I do?

    What would you do?
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • <<As for the letter, the date totally contradicts the US Mints published figures so I just don't know what to say. Would it be possible that the letter was authored on the 10th of August in anticipation of the September production run of 2,180 coins? I don't know and the fellows who do know have long passed away.>>

    I don't see this as a problem. I can easily believe that mint production in one month was not accounted for by the bean counters until the next month, especially if the first month's production was embarassingly small. If I remember correctly, a few 1965 halves were struck in late December 1965, but did not show up in the mintage figures until January 1966.

  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    could you have it slabbed `discovery`?
    i would.
    image
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>could you have it slabbed `discovery`?
    i would.
    image >>



    I don't know why ANACS did not label it as Discovery PC like this one:

    ......image

    but they didn't.

    PCGS will not Slab and label a coin as Discovery Piece which I think has been discussed here before.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • GandyjaiGandyjai Posts: 1,380 ✭✭
    Sometimes, if you have a special Discovery Piece...ANACS will even put YOUR name on the label!image

    image

    This particular 72-D DDO has a whole lot to say!.....More about it on Friday at the workshop..image

    Lee, see if they can so the same for yours!

    Brian

    I Love image Variety & Error Ikes! image
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    I don;t know Brian, they've used 4 lines already!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,723 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Right now, we would like folks to examine their IKEs and see if there are anymore like this out there. As I've stated in the past with IKE's, we look but we do not see. As coin collector's it is so very important to look carefully at what you find as new varieties on older coins are found on a regular basis anymore.
    >>




    It's simply remarkable that most of the modern varieties are rare.

    One has to believe that it's because people still aren't looking rather
    than the the dies struck only a few coins and were then retired.

    When it is consuidered that many of these didn't survive at all in BU
    rolls because so few were saved it's apparent that the circulating ver-
    sions are just going to be all used up and destroyed unless this
    changes.

    I've predicted for a long time that many of the varieties will appear
    in two states of preservation; a handfull in XF/AU and a few hundred
    in G/ VG.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats on the find, Hawkeye.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,723 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Don't forget the 40% silver Bicentennial Proof quarters, halves and dollars struck in August of 1974 so that they would have some publicity pieces to display at the ANA convention down in Bal Harbour, Florida. According to reports given at the time, sets were given to the three designers and President Ford's press secretary. Ford had just taken office a few days before after Nixon resigned, and was too busy to attend the ceremony. Apparently nobody noticed that the dies did not have mint marks, or think about the fact that the regular proofs would. After I made a big deal out of it a few years later, I was told that the no mint mark sets had been returned to the mint and replaced with regular sets. I have my doubts.
    >>



    Most of the people here are well aware of this but there is only a single surviving coin
    known from these sets. It is an Ike and was reportedly found in a gas station cash
    register back in the earl '80's if memory serves. WonderCoin from this site is the proud
    owner now.

    I've heard conflicting reports on the disposition of these sets.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Aegis3, many thanks.

    The pictured Ike is not Lee's. Hard to tell much about the Earth but this Ike is a Peg Leg, the design minted in December, and as far as I can tell otherwise it's consistent with the common production '71-S Proof. >>



    Is it possible that the Ike the letter refers to is in fact not the Ike included in the lot, that there was a switch sometime? Alternatively, what would it mean (with regards to hub changes &c) if this normal design proof Ike was struck in August '71 or earlier? >>



    I would think a switcheroo would be out of the question here primarily because if such a thing did occur, then the Auction House's integrity could be called into question. I would expect that they protected this particular lot to prevent such an occurance. >>



    I would mean sometime before then. Someone had two 71-S proofs, and got the letter mixed up between the two.

    Actually, if this is ex-Carter, could it be possible that there's a 1980's-era Stack's or Coin Galleries sale it could also be in and thus we can track the pedigree back somewhat, or may it have been sold privately? I doubt it was the Carter family that consigned it to B&M.
    --

    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm leaving for the airport in about 15 Minutes!

    I can hardly wait to pick this puppy up and meet the fellows in the IKE Group!

    I hope to see all you other IKE enthusiasts at the Workshop!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • << <<As for the letter, the date totally contradicts the US Mints published figures so I just don't know what to say. Would it be possible that the letter was authored on the 10th of August in anticipation of the September production run of 2,180 coins? I don't know and the fellows who do know have long passed away.>>

    I don't see this as a problem. I can easily believe that mint production in one month was not accounted for by the bean counters until the next month, especially if the first month's production was embarassingly small. If I remember correctly, a few 1965 halves were struck in late December 1965, but did not show up in the mintage figures until January 1966.>>

    For another example, please see the August 4, 2008 Coin World page 38.
    "While the U. S. Mint posts on its web site at www.usmint-gov that there has been no production of circulation-quality Sacagawea dollars and Kennedy half dollars fior the first six months of calendar year 2008, the mint has recorded numismatic sales of circulation-quality 2008 coins of both denominations."

    Almost two million of each denomination have been sold as of July 1 according to the Mint sales report.
  • Lee, that is awesome! Great find and really cool you got it on the cover.

    Thanks for sharing. Did I miss the thread where you showed images of the coin?

    Jonathan
    I have been a collector for over mumbly-five years. I learn something new every day.
  • Jonathan, Lee posted a photo of his new find in his second post in this thread.

  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Lee, that is awesome! Great find and really cool you got it on the cover.

    Thanks for sharing. Did I miss the thread where you showed images of the coin?

    Jonathan >>



    Jonathon, I have randomly posted this coins scan since February in various threads. However folks see an IKE and then move on which is the whole point I have been trying to make for a couple of years. There are many unknown IKEs floating around out there but you'll never see them until you actually look. DDO's, DDR's, strike throughs, abraded dies, die trial strikes, sintered planchets, you name it, there out there.

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!

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