Law collection of Liberty Seated Half Dimes now listed in registry

Dennis88

This certainly is an unbelievable set. I wondered why I was thrown out of the all time top 5 in the date set, but seeing this set I can figure out why. All sets are equally great in quality, but the with varieties and 1870-S set is certainly the most impressive. Except for the 1846, which is AU-53 all other coins in the w/varieties set are at least MS-62, with an unbelievable 11 MS-68's. Although the 1870-S is overgraded (It's an AU coin) it is unique and not important at all for the set rating.

There are a total of 79 coins in the with varieties set, making it 100% complete. Out of these 79 coins, 13 coins are pop 1/0, and another 35 coins have none graded finer.

Certainly a very impressive set and off course, I'm waiting for pictures.

Links:

Liberty Seated Half Dimes Date Set

Liberty Seated Half Dimes Basic Set

Liberty Seated Half Dimes w/ Varieties

Liberty Seated Half Dimes W/ Varieties and 1870-S

Dennis

Dennis88

so no one here is interested in classic and very cool coins anylonger?

Barndog

<< <i>so no one here is interested in classic and very cool coins anylonger? >>



I believe part of the lack of interest is related to the fact that no Law Collection set has images. Without images, it's just a bunch of numbers...and that's not fun.

I'm number two to the Law collection for bust half dimes (see sigline), but aside from the fact that Law has all top pop coins, whose set is cooler to look at online?

tmcsr69

I'm envious of the quality and quanity. Hopefully pictures will be added as I would really like to see them. Just reading a listing of coins is somewhat boring imho.

Swampboy

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<< <i>so no one here is interested in classic and very cool coins anylonger? >>



I believe part of the lack of interest is related to the fact that no Law Collection set has images. Without images, it's just a bunch of numbers...and that's not fun.

I'm number two to the Law collection for bust half dimes (see sigline), but aside from the fact that Law has all top pop coins, whose set is cooler to look at online? >>



#2

What a treat o view!

Connecticoin

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<< <i>so no one here is interested in classic and very cool coins anylonger? >>



I believe part of the lack of interest is related to the fact that no Law Collection set has images. Without images, it's just a bunch of numbers...and that's not fun.

I'm number two to the Law collection for bust half dimes (see sigline), but aside from the fact that Law has all top pop coins, whose set is cooler to look at online? >>



Well that is more than what you see from the California Morgan Sets. All you see from those is a set rating.

MrHalfDime

That is indeed an impressive set, but as Barndog says, without images it is just a list of numbers. As one who truly appreciates the Liberty Seated half dimes and who has collected them for many years, I can fully appreciate the effort that assembling such a collection represents. But when I see the unique 1870-S half dime, a coin that I have spent considerable time with 'up close and personal', an indisputable AU-55 coin, listed now as MS-64, it renders all of those numbers suspect. Unless the benefits of storing coins in plastic has some regenerative properties of which I am unaware, it is doubtful that the only example of the 1870-S, which was AU-55 when discovered in 1978, has improved that much.

For many of the better known 'varieties' in this series, such as 1849/6, 1849/8, and 1858 Inverted Date, I have passed on numerous examples of each in plastic slabs, replete with high numbers on the insert, but with poorly struck or late die state coins which did not adequately exhibit the points of interest (repunched numerals) for these specific varieties. For my own reference collection, I have chosen slightly lower grade examples, but which best exhibit the characteristics and diagnostics for the specific variety.

My own reference collection of Liberty Seated half dimes, with just one example of each variety, is listed on the Liberty Seated Dime webpage, and can be seen here:

http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/registry/halfdimevariety/crain.htm

As can be seen from the list, I have a preference for AU-58 coins,as well as raw coins. Unfortunately, these are also without images, but for anyone who is interested in the series, I will have this set with me at the ANA - Baltimore, at the Liberty Seated Collectors Club meeting, for anyone to view.

My hat is off to the owner of the Law collection. I wonder if this might be the same collection that was reported in the last (2005) LSCC half dime census survey, for which I included the following comments:

"Although it is the policy of the Liberty Seated Collectors Club to report these census surveys anonymously, as a census of coins rather than individual collections, I would be remiss if I did not comment on one particular collection that was included in this survey. One respondent reported a collection complete by date and mint, comprising fully 170 coins, total, all in third party grader’s slabs. He had mint state examples of each and every date and mint, for all seventy (70) coins required for a complete collection (excluding the 1870-S). Indeed, there was but one coin in his entire collection in less than mint state grade, and that was an 1840-O WD V7, in AU-58, although he had another MS-63 example. Of the seventy coins representing each date and mint, there were seven (7) examples in MS-68, thirty-seven (37) examples in MS-67, seventeen (17) examples in MS-66, seven (7) examples in MS-65, one example in MS-63, and just one lone MS-62 example (1846), for an average grade of MS-66.53! Also included were proof examples of all dates for which proofs were minted except 1837, 1839, 1850, 1851, 1853, and 1861. The collection even included high mint state examples of many well known varieties, including the 1838 V1 Small Stars, 1840-O ND V6 Transitional, 1845/5 V5, 1848 V1 Large Date, 1849/6 V2, 1849/8 V4, 1858 B9 Inverted Date, 1858 B10 Doubled Date, 1860/1860 V3b, and 1872-S above and below bow. Congratulations on a truly remarkable set of beautiful half dimes."

lawman9753

It took me over 15 years to complete this set. I started this set by purchasing three MS68 pieces at a show in Secaucus, NJ in about 1992. The set has never been shown or listed before but negotiations are currently taking place to exhibit the set at the Baltimore ANA show in July. I was extremely concerned with quality when I put the set together. I bought the coin, not the holder. I passed on quite a few "finest Known" coins. I hope to continue to upgrade the set when and if a finer piece becomes available.

Cladiator

Welcome to the boards lawman. Your collection must be incredible. Might want to invest in a nice digital camera.

mr1931S

It took me over 15 years to complete this set. I started this set by purchasing three MS68 pieces at a show in Secaucus, NJ in about 1992...

Why not have online images available so people who are interested in these can see the collection? Speaking for myself only, a listing of grade numbers does nothing for me.

negotiations are currently taking place to exhibit the set at the Baltimore ANA show in July.

Most of us don't go to shows like this because of the expenses involved.Your collection can achieve true greatness if the greatest number of people can see it.Think about it.

Connecticoin

When was the 1870-S Half Dime purchased? I don't recall any news on that one.

Edit: Never mind, I found a thread from 2004 that said it sold for $661,000. Seems like a bargain for a unique coin that was the only hole in the Eliasburg collection.

rhedden

Truly amazing set. I also wish I could see the pictures of this one. I might drive 3 hours to Baltimore just to look at this set.

BECOKA

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<< <i>so no one here is interested in classic and very cool coins anylonger? >>



I believe part of the lack of interest is related to the fact that no Law Collection set has images. Without images, it's just a bunch of numbers...and that's not fun.

I'm number two to the Law collection for bust half dimes (see sigline), but aside from the fact that Law has all top pop coins, whose set is cooler to look at online? >>



I completely agree, the registries that make no attempt to show the coins are pretty much worthless to me other than to know that someone has a bunch of over priced coins that may or may not be PQ.

I would bet money that more people will enjoy looking at Barndog's set over the law collection.

Cladiator

So far the #1, #2 and #5 set owners are in this thread. 3 of the top 5 ain't bad.

RichieURich

<< <i>When was the 1870-S Half Dime purchased? I don't recall any news on that one.

Edit: Never mind, I found a thread from 2004 that said it sold for $661,000. Seems like a bargain for a unique coin that was the only hole in the Eliasburg collection. >>



Yes, I attended the sale and looked at the coin, but I didn't have a spare 3/4 million, so I wasn't bidding. A great coin, and IMO it went for less than it should have. Interestingly, the unique 1873-CC No Arrows dime was sold in the same sale. Two unique business strike regular series coins in the same auction!

Congratulations, Lawman, on your set! And, welcome to the Forums!

speety

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<< <i>so no one here is interested in classic and very cool coins anylonger? >>



I believe part of the lack of interest is related to the fact that no Law Collection set has images. Without images, it's just a bunch of numbers...and that's not fun.

I'm number two to the Law collection for bust half dimes (see sigline), but aside from the fact that Law has all top pop coins, whose set is cooler to look at online? >>



I completely agree, the registries that make no attempt to show the coins are pretty much worthless to me other than to know that someone has a bunch of over priced coins that may or may not be PQ.

I would bet money that more people will enjoy looking at Barndog's set over the law collection. >>



I was thinking about this today and I think that instead of PCGS current bonuses for completed set registries, they should offer free trueviews for the top couple spots. The registry is, in large part, a way to showoff why PCGS is the best. How better to do so then to showcase the ultimate in each series in full trueview definition?

lawman9753

The Capped Bust Half Dime set and the Liberty Seated Half Dime set including the 1870-S will be displayed at the Baltimore ANA show at Legend Numismatics' tables. Laurie Sperber located at least 90% of the coins in the sets. The sets will also be digitally photographed which images will be posted with the PCGS registry sets.

ricko

Welcome to the forum... and I look forward to viewing your coins... Congratulations on such a fine achievement. Cheers, RickO

Darrell

Hello Lawman,
I am quite sure that I used to own the 1857 half dime in your collection. I had my dealer sell it to Legend last year and they may have sold it to you. Sometimes I wish I had it back but it belongs in a collection like yours. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

Darrell

IGWT

I was thinking about this today and I think that instead of PCGS current bonuses for completed set registries, they should offer free trueviews for the top couple spots. The registry is, in large part, a way to showoff why PCGS is the best. How better to do so then to showcase the ultimate in each series in full trueview definition?

Great idea! Perhaps the TrueViews™ could be in addition to (instead of in lieu of) whatever bonuses are offered.

Nic

Awesome set! I look forward to seeing them at ANA. Thanks for sharing ! K

roadrunner

That's a mind-boggling set to be sure. Some competition for TDN. Well I can take minor solace in knowing that I might have a potential upgrade coin or two to that set.

I'd love to see a quarter set with similar completion stats.

roadrunner

Barndog

<< <i>The sets will also be digitally photographed which images will be posted with the PCGS registry sets. >>




that is GREAT news!

Rob41281

I cant wait to see the pics. My goal of eventually owning the #1 date set just went out the window. Oh well.

CoinRaritiesOnline

<< <i>The Capped Bust Half Dime set and the Liberty Seated Half Dime set including the 1870-S will be displayed at the Baltimore ANA show at Legend Numismatics' tables. Laurie Sperber located at least 90% of the coins in the sets. The sets will also be digitally photographed which images will be posted with the PCGS registry sets. >>



That's great news! I look forward to seeing your sets at the ANA at Laura's table.

CaptainRon

Was this set actually at the ANA? Did anyone have a chance to view and get some pictures?

Ron

Barndog

<< <i>Was this set actually at the ANA? Did anyone have a chance to view and get some pictures?

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I saw the capped bust half dime set, don't recall seeing the seated stuff, but then again they may have been there and I just didn't notice them as I am biased toward capped bust coinage. The capped bust half dimes were phenomenal, and even that adjective is not enough.