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What would you grade this Morgan (big pics) Baley finally got it. Answer and reason posted

fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
Please don't tell my draped and capped bust coins that I have a box of Modern (post 1840) coins in the safe.
Sometimes I can't help myself and something non-bust calls out to me. Here is one of those coins.

What do you think PCGS graded this morgan (has PL+ obverse and only a slightly PL reverse)?

Well Baley got it right
this coin is graded PCGS MS63 and, in my opinion, is right on. This was perhaps kind of a trick question.
The coin has the most wonderful check and hardly a blemish on it. However, when rotated in the light the mirror surfaces
have faint hairlines, to me it looks a lot like many of the proof 63 Seated halves. I tried to photo it to show the fine hairlines
but they really don't show too well. The mirrors magnify all the small hairlines.
This is still a great coin and for MS63 price, is, in my opinion a great coin


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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    66
  • Are the diagonal scratches on the obverse on the coin or the holder?
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,922 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Are the diagonal scratches on the obverse on the coin or the holder? >>



    Those have to be on the plastic, I will second the 66 thought I almost went 65 because of the chatter by the nose.
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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,308 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think it would make a 66.

    solid ms65.

    Possibly PL.
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One worn die and thus a weak strike. I'd say a 65. Too bad the reverse didn't go PL. Too much
    cartwheel on the reverse to get it. Obverse is sweet looking with more chatter in the fields than
    on the cheek. a 66 is not out of the question but, I doubt that.
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65
    When in doubt, don't.
  • morganbarbermorganbarber Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭
    At least 65 and at least PL
    I collect circulated U.S. silver
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66
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  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66
    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66 no pl.Nice coin.
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  • 64
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  • fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll post a pic of the slab in a little while. Have a few more guesses first
  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    65
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Only because you stated no one's guess correctly yet, I'll go AU58.

    peacockcoins

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    my first impression was PCGS MS63, yes she has a nice cheek but quite a few field marks

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    and on the reverse, the friction to the grade sensitive breast.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Must be a 67 then.

    NGC thought THIS was a 66.
    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-65 CAC

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  • prooflikeprooflike Posts: 3,879 ✭✭
    64pl

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  • Gonna agree w/ the 67 cos nobody else went for it yet.
  • fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well Baley got it right
    this coin is graded PCGS MS63 and, in my opinion, is right on. This was perhaps kind of a trick question.
    The coin has the most wonderful check and hardly a blemish on it. However, when rotated in the light the mirror surfaces
    have faint hairlines, to me it looks a lot like many of the proof 63 Seated halves. I tried to photo it to show the fine hairlines
    but they really don't show too well. The mirrors magnify all the small hairlines.
    This is still a great coin and for MS63 price, is, in my opinion a great coin


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  • greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    This is still a great coin and for MS63 price, is, in my opinion a great coin

    I agree. I wish all my 63's looked like that. As a matter of fact, I wish ANY of my 63's looked like that. I would have guessed 65.

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  • cascadecascade Posts: 151 ✭✭


    << <i>and on the reverse, the friction to the grade sensitive breast. >>



    Isn't friction a sign of circulation?


    What makes you guys go so high on your grade guesses? Miss Liberty being so clean?

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    not circulation, just contact with other coins in the hopper or bag

    wonderful coin nonetheless and the higher grade guesses are understandable

    nice pickup fish

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PL surfaces magnify hairlines and contact marks. I have an 1885 Half in PC 5, and the coin looks 'baggy' because of it. I think this Morgan is properly graded. If the obverse wasn't PL, the hairlines wouldn't appear so obvious.

    If you think these hairlines are bad, check out MS 63 Seated & Trade $s. Many look like someone ice-skated on them. I saw a 59 O $ in 3 that looked like the Great White in Jaws tried it and decided he didn't like it.

    Baley has a knack of finding a really nice coin for an MS 58 or MS 63. He's smart; this way he doesn't break the bank buying coins.
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