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Two nice Buffalo nickels

gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
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Grade them if you please. Both are raw pieces.
The 1925-P has that peculiar finish that is unique to the issue. I see it as MS63. The small hit just above the hair knot does it no good.
The 1927-D displays the mushiness so common among the D-mint coins from 1915 to 1934. I see it as MS63 and possibly a low-end MS64, as no MS63 I saw in the Heritage archives has any definition whatsoever in the hair knot--this coin has a bit.
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  • PrivateCoinCollectorPrivateCoinCollector Posts: 2,415 ✭
    Very nice. Thanks for sharing!
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice. I think you're a bit harsh on the 25P, as it looks 64 to me, but you are obviously a serious student of the series, so I won't argue. That 27D is super for the issue. I'd like to find a 26D like that!
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  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Man you take great pictures. What do you use for a light source? There's no wicked glare and it's very all around even.

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  • golfer72golfer72 Posts: 3,588
    The 25 has an excellent strike for that year. One of the best I have seen. Nice coin
  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    The 27d is dramatic and very attractive, 63 or 4 perhaps
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Man you take great pictures. What do you use for a light source? There's no wicked glare and it's very all around even. >>



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  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    Here's my 1927-D in a PCGS MS64 holder. Purchased a couple of years ago from a very astute member here. This one is very much high-end for the grade. I photographed this coin a long time ago, and it has since continued to acquire spectacular coloring, so much so that I wouldn't dream of cracking it out and resubmitting, for fear of it getting bagged. In fact, I KNOW it would be bagged.image
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here's my 1927-D in a PCGS MS64 holder. Purchased a couple of years ago from a very astute member here. This one is very much high-end for the grade. I photographed this coin a long time ago, and it has since continued to acquire spectacular coloring, so much so that I wouldn't dream of cracking it out and resubmitting, for fear of it getting bagged. In fact, I KNOW it would be bagged.image
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    Hmmm... That coin looks even better than I remember it. What on earth makes you think it would get bagged?




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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Grade them if you please. Both are raw pieces. >>

    The 25-P looks 63/64 although I've recently seen a 66 with a worse hit than that. The 27-D looks solid 64 despite the soft strike.




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  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hmmm... That coin looks even better than I remember it. What on earth makes you think it would get bagged? >>



    The color, Chris. The obverse has exploded with Munchkin Land-like colors similar to what you see, but even more vivid. The gun blue/magenta on the reverse has intensified. I don't think PCGS graders would look at it twice in raw condition; they would DQ it immediately. I think the grading bias/paranoia about toning--which no one understands completely--is so pronounced, the PCGS graders would just throw their hands in the air, and the coin in a body bag.image
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  • harvey85422458harvey85422458 Posts: 1,004
    Great Buff's
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  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
    no stand, just hold the coin with one hand and shoot with the other.

    Dang, you sure must have steady hands!

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  • yellowjacketyellowjacket Posts: 1,809 ✭
    Nice coins, Guy. I like your comment about the finish on 1925 Phillies. It is a satin-type soft luster.

    Nice pics, too. I agree with your comments about grades. Often, we Buffalo collectors are the most harsh on our own series.

    Garrow
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    Where's Cape....
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  • TonedbuffTonedbuff Posts: 1,190
    Nice 64 on the 25 and a 63 on the 27D. I like the satiny look of the 25P.
  • capecape Posts: 1,621 ✭
    I LIKE THE 25P BUT NOT THE 27D . The 25p could go 65 and the 27d could go 64 as it is a little to grainey looking for me. MY question to you guy is have you been dipping these nice buffs with a quick EZ ZEST? If you have I would't as it kills the nickel and creates a grainey looking surface! JUST TRYING TO HELP! I do like the Shamika 27d as this coin is very high end for the grade and would receive the CAPE APPROVED STICKER!
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  • DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856 ✭
    They do look a little grainy but the luster is killer on both of them. Beautiful buffs. image
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  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I LIKE THE 25P BUT NOT THE 27D . The 25p could go 65 and the 27d could go 64 as it is a little to grainey looking for me. MY question to you guy is have you been dipping these nice buffs with a quick EZ ZEST? If you have I would't as it kills the nickel and creates a grainey looking surface! JUST TRYING TO HELP! I do like the Shamika 27d as this coin is very high end for the grade and would receive the CAPE APPROVED STICKER! >>



    Again, no dip on these coins. As a rule I am not averse to dipping when a coin is mucky, but I saw no reason to do that here. The 1925 clearly has not been dipped--recently, anyway. The buildup within the bison's mane is proof of that. These two coins (and the 1919 in the other thread) came out of gold-label PCI holders. This is always a gamble, as you know, but if any one of these coins goes MS64 then the price was terrific.

    From my experience, a very quick dip does not cause the grainy, slightly pitted appearance--the metal on buff nicks is too hard, and you have to dip a coin more harshly (or else repeatedly) for it to permeate the metal and erode the surfaces it like that. More common is a stripping away of all toning, some luster, and leaving the coin with a dullish countenance. It also can expose marks that had been filled in with oxidization. As I go along, I become increasingly chary as to which coins can benefit from being treated.

    Send me that sticker for the great 27-D, would you?
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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very attractive looking Buffs! image
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  • ad4400ad4400 Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On the 1925, might the smaller ticks above the braid be uncompressed planchet? A couple larger ticks obviosly are not, but still a nice coin. I agree that the 'grainyness' of the first 27-D is distracting, expecially compared to the PCGS 64 one.
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  • capecape Posts: 1,621 ✭
    I will send you the sticker! Working on them as we speak!image
    ed rodrigues
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Very nice.

    Your grades sounds so reasonable I will not even try. image

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