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EBAY will not let me sell...with out using paypal

I have 2 accounts. One I use to sell breweriana and have had this account since 1997.

My 2nd account I have had since 1999. I use it less often and only for selling coins and other items not related to breweriana. I went to list a historical book today on my 2nd account and the EBAY auction site would not let me complete the listing without me offering to accept paypal. I called EBAY and the rep told me it for for my protection. I told the rep that I didnt need their protection and that I have been doing OK accepting checks for the last 9 years. I told her that I am just a little seller, selling garage sale items and did not need to offer paypal or credit card sales. She then told me that I can still accept checks or MO's but I had to sign up to accept paypal. So how does me signing up for paypal as a seller protect me? if they will still let me accept checks in addition to their paypal?

PS-I did not list the item.
Advanced collector of BREWERIANA. Early beer advertising (beer cans, tap knobs, foam scrapers, trays, tin signs, lithos, paper, etc)....My first love...U.S. COINS!

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ebay=pay pal

    Screw in, screw out
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
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  • cinman14cinman14 Posts: 2,489


    << <i>ebay=pay pal

    Screw in, screw out >>



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  • Well thats ebay for you!
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What, you don't want to be protected by the "we are only a venue" folks?image
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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    They're protecting themselves and the buyers....not the sellers.
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  • rgCoinGuyrgCoinGuy Posts: 7,478
    As to how you are protected, if you use paypal shipping (which I find to be very convenient myself), there is some sort of seller protection as long as you follow their rules. And YES, you can still accept money orders and checks along with paypal.
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  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    Simply state that, FOR YOUR PROTECTION, any items paid for via PayPal will not ship until 1 year AFTER the maximum time to file a chargeback has elapsed. image

    It's WRONG to FORCE you to accept a form of payment that carries a risk of a chargeback.
  • I haven't sold or bought anything on there in about a year. Yesterday, I was going to list some low value coins on my "other" account, one with about 15 feedbacks (verus my "good" account which has several hundred). I got this crap line about "funds will be held by Paypal for 21 days to ensure you actually deliver the items". Whatever.
  • I don't think it has anything to do with your account since you have been registered since 1999, rather it may be eBay's new policy to require the seller offer PayPal in categories that have demonstrated a high rate of buyer dissatisfaction.
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,797 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't think it has anything to do with your account since you have been registered since 1999, rather it may be eBay's new policy to require the seller offer PayPal in categories that have demonstrated a high rate of buyer dissatisfaction. >>



    I suspect that the coin category is near the top in unhappy customers.
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    << <i>I don't think it has anything to do with your account since you have been registered since 1999, rather it may be eBay's new policy to require the seller offer PayPal in categories that have demonstrated a high rate of buyer dissatisfaction. >>



    I suspect that the coin category is near the top in unhappy customers. >>


    According to this FAQ:


    << <i>21. If I sell in both higher risk and non-higher risk categories, will I be required to offer a safer payment option in all my listings?
    Not necessarily. Higher risk categories are: gift certificates, video games, cell phones, computers and consumer electronics. You'll be required to offer a safer payment option for higher risk categories. You will also be required to offer a safer payment option in other categories if you have more than 5% dissatisfied buyers in the last 30 days and/or a feedback score under 100.

    22. If I don't sell in higher risk categories will eBay require me to offer a safer payment option?
    eBay is not requiring sellers in non-higher risk categories to offer PayPal or a merchant credit card. However, you will be required to offer safer payment options if you have more than 5% dissatisfied buyers in the last 30 days and/or a feedback score under 100. We will also continue to require new sellers who registered after January 17, 2007 to offer PayPal or a merchant credit card. >>

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  • TavernTreasures, what is your feedback total? I read somewhere earlier this year that all new sellers would be required to accept paypal and I believe if you had a feedback score of under 100 you would need to accept paypal. IN addition, if you had some sort of ratio of complaints to sales you would also have to accept paypal.
  • JoesMaNameJoesMaName Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭
    What am I missing here? How can you have a feedback score of 100% with even 1% dissatisfied buyers?
    God, why don't they just say you need to except paypal and be done with it a least they wouldn't look and smell like a bunch of politicians.
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've never had a problem with PayPal. Yes, there are fees, but i think the increased sales you get from accepting them in your auctions makes up for it. Many people simply won't bid on auctions that don't offer PayPal as a way to pay...
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  • TavernTreasuresTavernTreasures Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭


    << <i>TavernTreasures, what is your feedback total? I read somewhere earlier this year that all new sellers would be required to accept paypal and I believe if you had a feedback score of under 100 you would need to accept paypal. IN addition, if you had some sort of ratio of complaints to sales you would also have to accept paypal. >>



    On this account(which is my secondary account)---the feedback total is around 60. No complaints. Feedback was 100% before they ba$tardized feedback last week. It is now still a 100% on the new 12 month program. I will no longer sell using this acount. I have heard too many horror stories here. I will not let PAYPAL have control of my bank account.
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  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    That account's feedback being 60 (under 100) appears to be the reason, per FLBH's FAQ extract above.
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  • JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557


    << <i>I don't think it has anything to do with your account since you have been registered since 1999, rather it may be eBay's new policy to require the seller offer PayPal in categories that have demonstrated a high rate of buyer dissatisfaction. >>



    I believe the rules state if you have less than 100 feedbacks, you are required to offer PayPal as a payment option. I went to eBay's invitational eCommerce for their top seller accounts back in January when they started announcing all these changes. The theme the whole time we were there was "improving the buyer experience." I got the feeling that they were spending a helluva lot of money on marketing, but they were having trouble retaining those people once they got there. So they want to improve the experience for buyers, and part of that is cracking down on "bad" sellers and rewarding good sellers. Thus the Detailed Seller Ratings and their use in the requirements for PowerSeller status as well as 5% and 15% final value fee discounts. Also, they are making changes in their search algorithms, so that if you use the "Best Match" sort feature, then it takes a lot of factors into account, like keyword relevancy and time left, but now (or soon) there is an element that rewards "good sellers" and if you have low DSRs and are labeled a "bad seller" it will actually lower your items within the search results.
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  • route66route66 Posts: 474
    I love it when sellers don't take paypal on coins. I find I get really good deals on some nice coins. A lot of people don't bid unless they can pay by paypal. Steve

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