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These are my only "slabbed" darkside coins.... Is Ireland considered darkside???? I'm not even really sure what they are but they were in a bunch of stuff that my grandmother had left me years ago. I sent them in to slab just to kind of protect them.

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Way cool. image

    These tend to come nice but they are hardly common in unc. They
    are dramatically underpriced in Krause and some sell for prices up
    to a couple hundred dollars in TYPICAL unc; like the '82 50P.

    The coppers tend to be more available but more tend to have pro-
    blems.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Very nice! I don't collect Irish coinage but I have long thought about starting.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice! I don't collect Irish coinage but I have long thought about starting.

    If you have a good eye and tons of patience, it's a great opportunity.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231
    I dont collect Irish at all, but when I saw this coin at a recent local show, I couldnt resist! This is the "untampered with" look that I could only wish all my silver coins had.

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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Very nice! I don't collect Irish coinage but I have long thought about starting.

    If you have a good eye and tons of patience, it's a great opportunity. >>



    Tell me more. Does one need a better eye and more patience in comparison to collecting other kinds of coins?
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does one need a better eye and more patience in comparison to collecting other kinds of coins?

    It depends on what you're comparing it to. But my comment was based on the fact that the coins are very scarce and usually raw. For what it's worth, I've been paying some attention to Irish coins for about ten years. In that time, I've covered a lot of ground - including a few trips to Ireland and dozens to England - and I'll bet I haven't seen gems of more than a third of the pre-decimal issues.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • The early pre-decimal dates seem to be fairly rare. I live in Ireland and I can guarantee that I have not seen MS grade coins of most early denominations/dates. I usually meet a bunch of knowledgable lads once a month or every two/three months and check out their Irish ware. The 60's coins are easy to find, the 50's harder and the 30's & 40's very difficult apart from some easier dates.

    I recommend the following site:

    This site

    John is a nice guy and willing so give extensive answers on questions posed.

    Indeed most coins in Ireland and England are prefered raw. Slabbing just hasn't taken off. When I have showed a few people my slabbed coins they all have said that the coins were nice but that they would prefer them raw. Perhaps PCGS/NGC should set up a London sales office which would accept raw coins and then provide an express service for grading/slabbing to the US as we have to wait an extra week or more for our slabbed coins to be returned due to extra shipping.
    The meaning of life ? I don't know but I am sure that coins have something to do with it.

    Zar's Ebay
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great site... okay, question time.... How many of you knew about the 1961 Half Crown mule?

    It is truly amazing the knowledge that is shared here. Thanks

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Thank you for the link. It looks like a great site.


  • << <i>Great site... okay, question time.... How many of you knew about the 1961 Half Crown mule?

    It is truly amazing the knowledge that is shared here. Thanks >>




    The Dansco Albums have an opening for the 1961 Mule.......


    This is my prize Irish coin.....


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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unfortunately, I don't have the Dansco album...image

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382
    Ireland is my collection field and yes Krause has many of these coins under valued. Take for instance the 50P coins it's becoming harder and harder to find these big coins in BU most that are found are pretty beaten up. I am on my last legs if having the entire series in BU I have a few more to find. Some important dates for these coins are 1971, 74, 75, 82 and 1986 as these are all low mintages. 1986 is the rarest of the set with an estimated 10,000 struck but no one knows for sure. 1971 comes in next with 650,000 but no where near the high price 1986 can fetch. 74 and 75 are out there but finding them in BU or close to it is hard. I am missing some later dates in the 90's and of course 1986. Actually I am seeing less and less of nice examples of Irish coins in any series they are really disappearing and under appreciated and I won't even go into Irish paper where there is some real rare notes.

    Nice to see some folks interested in the decimals as I said earlier these are becoming so hard to find. These are just beautiful coins richardshipp enjoy!

  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,731 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ireland is my collection field and yes Krause has many of these coins under valued. Take for instance the 50P coins it's becoming harder and harder to find these big coins in BU most that are found are pretty beaten up. I am on my last legs if having the entire series in BU I have a few more to find. Some important dates for these coins are 1971, 74, 75, 82 and 1986 as these are all low mintages. 1986 is the rarest of the set with an estimated 10,000 struck but no one knows for sure. 1971 comes in next with 650,000 but no where near the high price 1986 can fetch. 74 and 75 are out there but finding them in BU or close to it is hard. I am missing some later dates in the 90's and of course 1986. Actually I am seeing less and less of nice examples of Irish coins in any series they are really disappearing and under appreciated and I won't even go into Irish paper where there is some real rare notes.

    Nice to see some folks interested in the decimals as I said earlier these are becoming so hard to find. These are just beautiful coins richardshipp enjoy! >>





    For decades (even before the '82 etc were minted) I was just about
    the only one looking and still couldn't find them. People just don't
    realize how little of some of this stuff is out there. The mints often
    made mint sets which lulled people into th8inking they could always
    go and obtain everything later but the mint sets have had very high
    attrition. Worse, is that many of the moderns don't appear in mint
    sets so you have to find a collector who saved an extra one.

    It's hard enough to find a collector who saved any.

    Joe Lewis out of Ohio used to save all kinds of stuff but he died back
    around '91 and his collections and hoards dispersed.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, Ireland is considered darkside.

    DPOTD-3
    'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'

    CU #3245 B.N.A. #428


    Don
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for all the great information... image
  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382


    << <i>

    << <i>Ireland is my collection field and yes Krause has many of these coins under valued. Take for instance the 50P coins it's becoming harder and harder to find these big coins in BU most that are found are pretty beaten up. I am on my last legs if having the entire series in BU I have a few more to find. Some important dates for these coins are 1971, 74, 75, 82 and 1986 as these are all low mintages. 1986 is the rarest of the set with an estimated 10,000 struck but no one knows for sure. 1971 comes in next with 650,000 but no where near the high price 1986 can fetch. 74 and 75 are out there but finding them in BU or close to it is hard. I am missing some later dates in the 90's and of course 1986. Actually I am seeing less and less of nice examples of Irish coins in any series they are really disappearing and under appreciated and I won't even go into Irish paper where there is some real rare notes.

    Nice to see some folks interested in the decimals as I said earlier these are becoming so hard to find. These are just beautiful coins richardshipp enjoy! >>





    For decades (even before the '82 etc were minted) I was just about
    the only one looking and still couldn't find them. People just don't
    realize how little of some of this stuff is out there. The mints often
    made mint sets which lulled people into th8inking they could always
    go and obtain everything later but the mint sets have had very high
    attrition. Worse, is that many of the moderns don't appear in mint
    sets so you have to find a collector who saved an extra one.

    It's hard enough to find a collector who saved any.

    Joe Lewis out of Ohio used to save all kinds of stuff but he died back
    around '91 and his collections and hoards dispersed. >>



    I have a hoard if you wish to call it that...LOL! Since my family is from Ireland and I still have family living there and an uncle who is a coin collector I have gotten all kinds of stuff. One day I want to photograph all of my collection but never get off my butt to do it lol! There are so many pieces disappearing and in the hands of private collectors. Pre-Euro mints sets are becoming, if not already, rare and are bringing in a good premium. However one must take care when collecting modern Irish coins in the fact that so many are passed off as being BU when in fact there are not even some grading companies are fooled. I have seen so many nickel 3P mistaken as BU because most people don't know what to look for when they look at the coin and they do not wear the same as other metals.

    Also there seems to be an epidemic of coins, for instance the business strike silver 10 schilling (Easter Rising), that are being slammed into modern green mint boxes like the ones the proof red deer púnts come in and sold as "coming in the original mint box". The only 10 schillings that come in the green mint boxes are the proofs and the box is constructed a little differently than the modern one púnt boxes. I have even seen a Kennedy half shoved into one of these boxes as well as pennies and other Irish coins that do not come in the green mint box. Also the elusive 1995 UN proof púnt have been passed along in these green boxes. The UN pound when released came in a blue box not green. Anyway I know most of you know this already and I don't mean push info that's already known it just tees me off sometimes lol.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Its good to be the King...image

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

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