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CDsNuts
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OK, so I buy a vintage basketball wax box from a guy under the condition that I can return if it I deem it to be tampered with. I get the box and I feel all the packs have been resealed, so I email him and ask for a refund. Here are the messages that he's sent me throughout the transaction:
The Negotiations:
1 - Tallboy wax Update:Thank you for your offer on the Tallboy box!!Just to let you know, you can buy ONE Sealed Tallboy Wax PACK for $25 each on the market - (Making 24 sealed packs worth a raw $600 without the original BOX).I was hoping to pull in at least $600 because it comes totally sealed and COMPLETE WITH THE RARE ORIGINAL TALLBOY BOX!I WILL CONSIDER YOUR OFFER FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THANK YOU -John in Texas
2- Thank you.
I'll probably take the offer -
How and When do you plan to pay for the box IF YOU WIN IT TODAY?
Thank you very much and Good luck! -John
3- THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUICK RESPONSE!
YES - ALL THE PACKS ARE IN THEIR ORIGINAL SEALED CONDITIONS AND HAVE NEVER BEEN TAMPERED WITH OR RESEALED.
(THE CONDITIONS OF THE SEALED PACKS VARY FROM ONE ANOTHER AND DO SHOW VARIOUS COMMON WEAR FROM OLD AGE)
(I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXAMINATION OF SEALED PACKS).
REFUND CONDITIONS:
REFUNDS ONLY APPLY IF ITEM IS DAMAGED IN THE DELIVERY PROCESS (NO EXCEPTIONS).
1.) (ALL ORIGINAL PACKS MUST BE REFUNDED IN "ORIGINAL SEALED" CONDITIONS AS DESCRIBED IN AUCTION- NO EXCEPTIONS!
IMPORTANT WARNING: NO "PACK-SWITCHING!" ~ OR EBAY AUTHORITIES WILL BE INVOLVED WITH TRANSACTION!
2.) ITEMS CAN ONLY BE REFUNDED IF ITEM(S) ARE DAMAGED IN THE DELIVERY PROCESS.
3.) SEALED PACKS THAT ARE "OPENED" AFTER DELIVERY IS "NON-NEGOTIABLE" FOR ANY REFUNDS - NO EXCEPTIONS! (NO REFUNDS FOR "OPENED" PRODUCTS)!
THE BOX AND ALL (24) PACKS INCLUDED MUST BE IN ORIGINAL "SEALED" AND INTACT CONDITIONS AS DESCRIBED TO GET MONEY REFUNDED.
WINNER WILL RECIEVE THE EXACT BOX AND THE "EXACT" SEALED PACKS SHOWN IN PICTURES PROVIDED IN MY DESCRIPTION.
ALL PACKS ARE IN ORIGINAL (STILL-SEALED) CONDITIONS AND ALL SALES ARE FINAL FOR SEALED ITEMS.
LET ME KNOW IF WE CAN WORK WITH THESE MUTUAL TERMS TO POSSIBLY CLOSE THE DEAL TONIGHT.
IF NOT, THATS OK TOO SINCE I'M NOT DESPERATE TO JUST GET RID OF THIS RARE BOX UNLESS I GET WHAT ITS WORTH!
THIS IS A "WORLDWIDE" AUCTION AND I TRUST THE BOX SHOULD SELL INTERNATIONALLY BEFORE THE AUCTION IS OVER.
(I HAVE SOLD SEVERAL OTHER SPORT AND NON-SPORT SEALED WAX BOXES AND PRODUCTS WITH NO PROBLEMS.)
YOU WILL GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURES.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION -John
4- Thank you for your great communication!
GUARANTEE:
I CAN GIVE YOU MY GUARANTEE THAT THE PACKS ARE LEGIT AND THERE IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT WITH THEIR ORIGINAL SEALED CONDITIONS!
ITS IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALSO KNOW THAT I AM VERY SERIOUS ABOUT ALL MY VINTAGE AND MODERN SEALED WAX PRODUCTS AND I DON'T PLAY ANY GAMES EITHER.
BUT I NEED YOUR GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL DO A FAIR AND OBJECTIVE INSPECTION AND THAT YOU WON'T PULL ANY "FAST TRICKS" TO SWINDLE ME.
A FAIR AND HONEST DEAL IS ALL I WANT -(AND I BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT ALSO).
IF WE CAN WORK FAIRLY WITH EACH OTHER, I CAN EVEN HAVE THE BOX SHIPPED TO YOU WITH (OVERNIGHT) EXPRESS MAIL DELIVERY (AND YOU MAY HAVE IT BY SATURDAY FOR INSPECTION)!
LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CLOSE THE DEAL TONIGHT SO I CAN ACCEPT YOUR OFFER THIS EVENING.
IF YOUR COMFORTABLE WITH THIS GUARANTEE, I CAN TAKE THE OFFER TONIGHT.
THANK YOU AND I HOPE THIS ALL WORKS OUT FOR BOTH OF US! ~ JOHN IN TX.
5- OK, SOUNDS GOOD.
POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON SEALED PRODUCTS:
I CAN LEAVE YOU POSITIVE FEEDBACK TONIGHT (RIGHT AFTER YOU PAY), OR I CAN WAIT UNTIL YOU RECIEVE THE PACKAGE IN SATISFACTORY CONDITION (AND WE CAN BOTH LEAVE FEEDBACK AT THAT TIME).
AS A VERY HONEST SELLER - I USUALLY LEAVE FEEDBACK IMMEDIATELY WHEN I RECIEVE PAYMENT TO AVOID "RETALIATORY" OR "BLACKMAIL" FEEDBACK TACTICS.
HOW DO YOU WANT TO WORK FEEDBACK?
I CAN LEAVE IT NOW OR LATER DUE TO THE DELICATE NATURE OF SEALED PRODUCTS.
LET ME KNOW SO I CAN TAKE YOUR OFFER!
-JOHN
6- Thanks, Lee - I look forward to packaging it super tight and secure tonight and Shipping it off tomorrow (Friday).
Thank you for your super Cooperation during this time!
Wow - We did a lot of "wheeling and dealing" tonight and everything should work out well for both of us.
Thank you and take care -John
7- Tallboy WAX UPDATE:
Hi Lee,
I sent the package today (Friday Apr. 11) by EXPRESS (overnight) mail!
BE PREPARED TO RECIEVE THE TALLBOY BOX TOMORROW (SATURDAY APRIL 12) AND "SIGN" FOR IT WHEN IT ARRIVES!
IT WILL BE DELIVERED BY 3 PM TOMORROW (SAT.)!
THANK YOU SO MUCH! -JOHN IN TX.
8- TALLBOY WAX UPDATE!:
HI LEE, YOU SHOULD RECIEVE THE BOX TODAY (SATURDAY APRIL 12) BY EXPRESS OVERNIGHT MAIL.
PACKAGE SHOULD ARRIVE BY 3:00 PM TODAY!
I HAVE THE BIG EXPRESS RECIEPT RIGHT HERE IN MY FILES!
PLEASE INFORM ME WHEN IT ARRIVES TODAY!
THANK YOU -John in TX.
The Refund:
9- OK - PLEASE DON'T TAMPER WITH ALL THE PACKS ANYMORE THAN YOU HAVE TO!
IF YOU DON'T WANT THE ITEM - DONT TAMPER WITH IT ANYMORE AND JUST SEND IT ALL BACK "AS IT IS" AND I CAN REFUND THE MONEY AS SOON AS THE BOX IS PHYSICALLY IN MY HANDS (IN THE EXACT SAME CONDITION) THAT I SENT IT IN.
THANKS -JOHN
10- SECONDLY,
I DON'T WANT TO BE BLAMED FOR RESEALING ITEMS THAT I NEVER TAMPERED WITH BEFORE - SO PLEASE SEND EVERYTHING BACK INTACT IF YOUR NOT SATISFIED!
MY 7-DAY RETURN POLICY IS DESIGNED TO AVOID NEGATIVE FEEDBACK OR "RETALIATORY" BLACKMAIL FEEDBACK - AND PROVIDES "FULL REFUND" TO YOU.
THANK YOU AND I AM SORRY IT DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR EITHER OF US (BUT YOU CAN RECIEVE YOUR REFUND WHEN I RECIEVE THE ITEM IN MY HANDS).
THANKS -JOHN IN TX.
PS: THE ITEM MUST BE RETURNED SAFELY IN MY HANDS TO GET YOUR REFUND BACK (NO EXCEPTIONS). I MUST HAVE THE ITEMS RETURNED BEFORE GIVING BACK YOUR MONEY (NO EXCEPTIONS). YOUR MONEY WILL BE REFUNDED THE DAY I RECEIVE THE ITEMS BACK!
THANK YOU.
11- THANK YOU, LEE.
I WILL GLADLY GIVE YOU THE REFUND WHEN I RECIEVE THE BOX BACK IF NEEDED.
NO NEED FOR ANY UNNECESSARY FEEDBACK WITH REFUND.
I WON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE PUTTING THAT BOX BACK INTO MY PRIVATE WAX COLLECTION FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS!!
TALLBOYS ARE NOT HARD TO SELL HERE IN TEXAS AND I'M NOT DESPERATE TO SELL IT.
PLEASE NOTE: (IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYBODY SAYS ABOUT THE PACKS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY ARE ALL UNSEARCHED, UNOPENED, AND TOTALLY LEGIT!)
I PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER MISHANDLED THE INDIVIDUAL PACKS INSIDE THE BOX FOR AS LONG AS I'VE OWNED IT!)
THANK YOU -JOHN
12- I WILL FULLY CHECK THE BOX AND THE INDIVIDUAL PACKS FOR TAMPERING WHEN OR IF IT IS RETURNED FOR "PACK SWITCHING".
I HAVE FULL DETAIL PICTURES AND PHOTOS OF THE WAX PACKS IN THIER ORIGINAL SEALED CONDITIONS AND THE BOX WILL BE THOUROUGHLY CHECKED BEFORE GIVING REUFUND!
I MUST BE CERTAIN THAT EVERYTHING IS IN ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION AND STATE THAT I SENT IT IN AND THERE IS NO "IMPOSTER" PACKS, ETC.
I WILL BE ABLE TO NOTICE IF ANY PACKS WERE "SWITCHED" OR TAKEN OUT OF THEIR ORIGINAL "ORDER" INSIDE THE TALLBOY BOX!!!
THANK YOU AND HOPE THIS WORKS FOR THE BEST -JOHN
13- Thanks.
Just let me know what you plan to do by Monday.
John
14- I'M SORRY LEE -
I HAVE NO HARD FEELINGS ABOUT THE BOX BUT I AM VERY SORRY ABOUT THIS WHOLE MESS.
PLEASE READ SLOWLY & CAREFULLY:
I WILL SHOW YOU HOW TRUTHFUL OF A PERSON I AM RIGHT NOW (REGARDLESS OF THIS REFUND).
(I HAVE DECIDED NOT TO RESELL THE BOX AND JUST KEEP IT IN MY PERSONAL WAX COLLECTION BECAUSE I KNOW HOW RARE THEY ARE AND I KNOW THE FULL HISTORY).
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ALTHOUGH - BOTH OF YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT IT AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE NO PROBLEM GIVING YOU YOUR $550 REFUND.
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IMPORTANT NOTE:
BOTH OF YOU ARE VERY PROFESSIONAL BUSINESSMEN AND I DON'T QUESTION THAT - (BUT RESPECT YOU FOR THAT).
BUT I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHY BOTH OF YOU CAN SEE WHY THEY WERE "RESEALED" AND WHY BOTH OF YOU ARE ACTUALLY TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT IT.
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I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT THAT TALLBOY WAX BOX THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY KNOW.
(WHEN I PURCHASED THAT BOX BACK IN 1995 FROM A LOCAL SAN ANTONIO CONVENTION - THE BOX WAS IN MORE "PRISTINE" CONDITION AND "BETTER SHAPE" THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW).
ABOUT 8 YEARS AGO AROUND 1999 - I ACTUALLY HAD A SMALL "ACCIDENT" WITH THAT BOX, AND I ACCENDENTLY (DROPPED) IT ON THE FLOOR.
WHEN IT FELL, (I NOTICED RIGHT AWAY) THAT THE PACKAGES HAD NOT BEEN OPENED BUT HAD GOTTEN A LITTLE "BANGED" UP SINCE THEN.
THIS (DROP) OF THE BOX ALSO CAUSED THE ACTUAL BACK "CORNER-BREAK" ON THE TALLBOY BOX YOU SEE NOW ON THE BOX.
*(BUT ORIGINALLY THAT "CORNER-BREAK" WAS NOT THERE WHEN I PURCHASED IT - BUT WAS CAUSED BY ME DROPPING IT, AND NOT THE PREVIOUS DEALER.)
YES - THE BOX HAS BEEN DROPPED TO THE FLOOR (BUT STILL REMAINS IN ITS ORIGINAL SEALED CONDITIONS!) - AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHY YOU HAD TROUBLE NOTICING ANY RESEALED ITEMS.
THE BOX HAS BEEN DROPPED BUT IS STILL WORTHY FOR ME TO KEEP IN MY COLLECTION - SO I DON'T MIND YOU SENDING IT BACK TO ME ASAP!
I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT A BOX THAT HAS BEEN "DROPPED" ON THE FLOOR BEFORE.
I HOPE FEEDBACK IS OK.
15- Hey Lee,
REFUND:
Again, I am trully sorry about this whole mix-up and WILL DEFINITELY KEEP THE BOX IN MY PERSONAL COLLECTION FROM NOW ON.
PS: I ALREADY SOLD TWO (2) 1980 TOPPS WAX BOXES STILL SEALED THIS MONTH WITH NO COMPLAINTS FROM EITHER BUYERS SO I DON'T MIND KEEPING MY TALLBOYS.
THANK YOU AGAIN AND I HOPE YOU CAN FULLY UNDERSTAND THIS DELICATE SITUATION WITH THAT TALLBOY BOX.
I AM SORRY AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE ANY FEEDBACK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO
REFUND: YOU WILL GET YOUR FULL REFUND FOR THE BOX WHEN I RECIEVE IT NEXT WEEK.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU CAN SEND IT BY PRIORITY MAIL SO MAYBE I CAN HAVE IT BY NEXT FRIDAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I HOPE MY HONESTY IS JUST "GOOD ENOUGH" TO UNDERSTAND.
THANKS AGAIN AND SORRY FOR THIS WHOLE MISHAP.
~ JOHN IN TEXAS.
16- THOSE ARE KIND WORDS, LEE, BUT ITS SAD THAT MY HONESTY HOLDS ME BACK IN THIS BUSINESS AND I HAVE TO WATCH FOR SWINDLERS AT ALL TIMES!!!
I DON'T MIND IF YOU DON'T EVER BUY FROM ME AGAIN - BUT I WOULD RATHER YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND THE FULL TRUTH AND HISTORY ABOUT THE BOX.
I GUARANTEE THOSE PACKS ARE LEGIT (BUT HAVE BEEN DROPPED TO THE FLOOR - ONLY THAT ONE TIME) AND THAT'S IT.
I WOULD RATHER YOU BELIEVE IN THE TRUTH (REGARDLESS OF THE REFUND).
YOU CAN GO BY YOUR "EXPERTISE" ON THE ITEM BUT I KNOW THE TRUTH AND HAVE NO PROBLEM KEEPING THAT BAD BOY IN MY COLLECTION STILL SEALED.
AND OF COURSE, THIS ITEM WILL NEVER BE RELISTED AGAIN SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING BACK!
THANKS AND I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS BOX IS A LOT WEIRDER THAN FICTION OR ANY "EXPERTISE" IN THIS DELICATE MATTER.
LET ME KNOW THE CONFIRMATION NUMBER WHEN YOU SEND IT SO I CAN EXPECT IT.
THANKS -JOHN
17- LEE,
I KNOW I DON'T HAVE TO REMIND YOU TO:
PLEASE WRAP EVERYTHING THE WAY IT WAS AND NO MORE TAMPERING WITH MY PACKS!
PLEASE PACKAGE IT VERY PROFESSIONALLY AND SEND IT BACK TO ME FIRST THING ON MONDAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND YOUR GREAT COMMUNICATION THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS!
~ JOHN
ITS A VERY SENSITIVE BOX AND I DON'T WANT IT
18- LEE,REFUND CONDITIONS:
GET THE ORIGINAL WAX PACKAGED AND READY TO BE SHIPPED TO ME ASAP!
I HAVE TO TRUST THAT NONE OF MY ORIGINAL SEALED PACKS ARE TAMPERED WITH UNTIL YOU SHIP THE ITEM!PLEASE INFORM ME ABOUT THE PACKAGING PROCESS!!
PLEASE NOTE: **ALL THOSE SEALED TALLBOY PACKS ARE INDIVIDUALLY SIGNIFICANT TO ONE ANTHER AND THEY ALL VARY FROM ONE ANOTHER AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHICH PACKS ARE ALL MINE! (ALL PACKS WERE PHOTOGRAPHED AND DOCUMENTED AFTER I DROPPED THE BOX!)
NO "IMPOSTER" PACKS IN REFUND - (NO EXCEPTIONS), OR EBAY AUTHORITIES WILL BE INVOLVED WITH TRANSACTION.
AGAIN, TO COVER AND PROTECT MYSELF, I MUST KNOW THAT I AM NOT GETTING SWINDLED ON THE REFUND!!
ALL MY ORIGINAL PACKS WILL BE CLOSELY EXAMINED FOR TAMPERING BEFORE I GIVE BACK YOUR FULL REFUND - (NO EXCEPTIONS)!
NO TAMPERING AND NO IMPOSTER PACKS!!
JUST PACKAGE ASAP AND GET IT READY TO SHIP ASAP!
NO HARD FEELINGS - BUT I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TRUST YOU DURING THIS REFUND PROCESS - (NO EXCEPTIONS).
THANKS AND I HOPE THIS ALL WORKS OUT IN THE END FOR THE BEST - JOHN
19- BASICALLY, ITS SIMPLE.
EVERYTHING BETTER BE IN ITS ORIGINAL (STILL-SEALED) CONDITIONS FOR THE FULL REFUND!!
IF ANYTHING IS "OPENED" OR WAS OPENED AFTER DELIVERY IS UNACCEPTABLE AND NON-NEGOTIABLE.
EVERYTHING MUST BE RETURNED IN ORIGINAL SEALED CONDITIONS FOR REFUND AS DESCRIBED IN AUCTION LISTING AND 7-DAY RETURN PERIOD!
THANKS -JOHN
PS: I TRIED TO CALL YOU (BY PHONE) BUT YOUR LISTED NUMBER ON EBAY'S FILE IS NOT WORKING. I ALREADY TRIED CALLING YOU. PLEASE RESPOND!
I don't expect that anybody read all of this mess. If you did, you have more patience than I. Keep in mind, once we agreed on a price and that he would offer a refund, I DIDN'T ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS!! He sent me roughly 4 messages for every one I sent him, most regurgitating the same thing over and over again. Even though my $550 refund is on the line, I had to tell him to just chill out after his last message. I'm thinking I shouldn't have sent him this for financial reasons, but I really don't feel like answering emails from him over the next 4 days:
- I'm not sure why a phone call is necessary. I'm pretty clear on your refund conditions and I'm following all of your instructions. You've repeated your refund conditions several times and I completely understand. Nothing is unclear to me so there's no need to explain your policy any further. I'd prefer to communicate through ebay messages in order to have everything documented in the ebay messages so there's no chance for a "he said, she said" situation. The box has been packed up and will ship first thing Monday. Do you need me to take a picture of the package? Other than me getting you the D/C number after I take it to the post office, I don't see the need for any further communication until I ship it. Sit tight- your box will be there in a few days in the exact same condition it was sent to me with none of the packs tampered with or replaced. I've updated my phone number in my ebay profile, but there's really no need for you to call me.
Lee
The Negotiations:
1 - Tallboy wax Update:Thank you for your offer on the Tallboy box!!Just to let you know, you can buy ONE Sealed Tallboy Wax PACK for $25 each on the market - (Making 24 sealed packs worth a raw $600 without the original BOX).I was hoping to pull in at least $600 because it comes totally sealed and COMPLETE WITH THE RARE ORIGINAL TALLBOY BOX!I WILL CONSIDER YOUR OFFER FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THANK YOU -John in Texas
2- Thank you.
I'll probably take the offer -
How and When do you plan to pay for the box IF YOU WIN IT TODAY?
Thank you very much and Good luck! -John
3- THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUICK RESPONSE!
YES - ALL THE PACKS ARE IN THEIR ORIGINAL SEALED CONDITIONS AND HAVE NEVER BEEN TAMPERED WITH OR RESEALED.
(THE CONDITIONS OF THE SEALED PACKS VARY FROM ONE ANOTHER AND DO SHOW VARIOUS COMMON WEAR FROM OLD AGE)
(I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXAMINATION OF SEALED PACKS).
REFUND CONDITIONS:
REFUNDS ONLY APPLY IF ITEM IS DAMAGED IN THE DELIVERY PROCESS (NO EXCEPTIONS).
1.) (ALL ORIGINAL PACKS MUST BE REFUNDED IN "ORIGINAL SEALED" CONDITIONS AS DESCRIBED IN AUCTION- NO EXCEPTIONS!
IMPORTANT WARNING: NO "PACK-SWITCHING!" ~ OR EBAY AUTHORITIES WILL BE INVOLVED WITH TRANSACTION!
2.) ITEMS CAN ONLY BE REFUNDED IF ITEM(S) ARE DAMAGED IN THE DELIVERY PROCESS.
3.) SEALED PACKS THAT ARE "OPENED" AFTER DELIVERY IS "NON-NEGOTIABLE" FOR ANY REFUNDS - NO EXCEPTIONS! (NO REFUNDS FOR "OPENED" PRODUCTS)!
THE BOX AND ALL (24) PACKS INCLUDED MUST BE IN ORIGINAL "SEALED" AND INTACT CONDITIONS AS DESCRIBED TO GET MONEY REFUNDED.
WINNER WILL RECIEVE THE EXACT BOX AND THE "EXACT" SEALED PACKS SHOWN IN PICTURES PROVIDED IN MY DESCRIPTION.
ALL PACKS ARE IN ORIGINAL (STILL-SEALED) CONDITIONS AND ALL SALES ARE FINAL FOR SEALED ITEMS.
LET ME KNOW IF WE CAN WORK WITH THESE MUTUAL TERMS TO POSSIBLY CLOSE THE DEAL TONIGHT.
IF NOT, THATS OK TOO SINCE I'M NOT DESPERATE TO JUST GET RID OF THIS RARE BOX UNLESS I GET WHAT ITS WORTH!
THIS IS A "WORLDWIDE" AUCTION AND I TRUST THE BOX SHOULD SELL INTERNATIONALLY BEFORE THE AUCTION IS OVER.
(I HAVE SOLD SEVERAL OTHER SPORT AND NON-SPORT SEALED WAX BOXES AND PRODUCTS WITH NO PROBLEMS.)
YOU WILL GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURES.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION -John
4- Thank you for your great communication!
GUARANTEE:
I CAN GIVE YOU MY GUARANTEE THAT THE PACKS ARE LEGIT AND THERE IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT WITH THEIR ORIGINAL SEALED CONDITIONS!
ITS IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALSO KNOW THAT I AM VERY SERIOUS ABOUT ALL MY VINTAGE AND MODERN SEALED WAX PRODUCTS AND I DON'T PLAY ANY GAMES EITHER.
BUT I NEED YOUR GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL DO A FAIR AND OBJECTIVE INSPECTION AND THAT YOU WON'T PULL ANY "FAST TRICKS" TO SWINDLE ME.
A FAIR AND HONEST DEAL IS ALL I WANT -(AND I BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT ALSO).
IF WE CAN WORK FAIRLY WITH EACH OTHER, I CAN EVEN HAVE THE BOX SHIPPED TO YOU WITH (OVERNIGHT) EXPRESS MAIL DELIVERY (AND YOU MAY HAVE IT BY SATURDAY FOR INSPECTION)!
LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CLOSE THE DEAL TONIGHT SO I CAN ACCEPT YOUR OFFER THIS EVENING.
IF YOUR COMFORTABLE WITH THIS GUARANTEE, I CAN TAKE THE OFFER TONIGHT.
THANK YOU AND I HOPE THIS ALL WORKS OUT FOR BOTH OF US! ~ JOHN IN TX.
5- OK, SOUNDS GOOD.
POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON SEALED PRODUCTS:
I CAN LEAVE YOU POSITIVE FEEDBACK TONIGHT (RIGHT AFTER YOU PAY), OR I CAN WAIT UNTIL YOU RECIEVE THE PACKAGE IN SATISFACTORY CONDITION (AND WE CAN BOTH LEAVE FEEDBACK AT THAT TIME).
AS A VERY HONEST SELLER - I USUALLY LEAVE FEEDBACK IMMEDIATELY WHEN I RECIEVE PAYMENT TO AVOID "RETALIATORY" OR "BLACKMAIL" FEEDBACK TACTICS.
HOW DO YOU WANT TO WORK FEEDBACK?
I CAN LEAVE IT NOW OR LATER DUE TO THE DELICATE NATURE OF SEALED PRODUCTS.
LET ME KNOW SO I CAN TAKE YOUR OFFER!
-JOHN
6- Thanks, Lee - I look forward to packaging it super tight and secure tonight and Shipping it off tomorrow (Friday).
Thank you for your super Cooperation during this time!
Wow - We did a lot of "wheeling and dealing" tonight and everything should work out well for both of us.
Thank you and take care -John
7- Tallboy WAX UPDATE:
Hi Lee,
I sent the package today (Friday Apr. 11) by EXPRESS (overnight) mail!
BE PREPARED TO RECIEVE THE TALLBOY BOX TOMORROW (SATURDAY APRIL 12) AND "SIGN" FOR IT WHEN IT ARRIVES!
IT WILL BE DELIVERED BY 3 PM TOMORROW (SAT.)!
THANK YOU SO MUCH! -JOHN IN TX.
8- TALLBOY WAX UPDATE!:
HI LEE, YOU SHOULD RECIEVE THE BOX TODAY (SATURDAY APRIL 12) BY EXPRESS OVERNIGHT MAIL.
PACKAGE SHOULD ARRIVE BY 3:00 PM TODAY!
I HAVE THE BIG EXPRESS RECIEPT RIGHT HERE IN MY FILES!
PLEASE INFORM ME WHEN IT ARRIVES TODAY!
THANK YOU -John in TX.
The Refund:
9- OK - PLEASE DON'T TAMPER WITH ALL THE PACKS ANYMORE THAN YOU HAVE TO!
IF YOU DON'T WANT THE ITEM - DONT TAMPER WITH IT ANYMORE AND JUST SEND IT ALL BACK "AS IT IS" AND I CAN REFUND THE MONEY AS SOON AS THE BOX IS PHYSICALLY IN MY HANDS (IN THE EXACT SAME CONDITION) THAT I SENT IT IN.
THANKS -JOHN
10- SECONDLY,
I DON'T WANT TO BE BLAMED FOR RESEALING ITEMS THAT I NEVER TAMPERED WITH BEFORE - SO PLEASE SEND EVERYTHING BACK INTACT IF YOUR NOT SATISFIED!
MY 7-DAY RETURN POLICY IS DESIGNED TO AVOID NEGATIVE FEEDBACK OR "RETALIATORY" BLACKMAIL FEEDBACK - AND PROVIDES "FULL REFUND" TO YOU.
THANK YOU AND I AM SORRY IT DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR EITHER OF US (BUT YOU CAN RECIEVE YOUR REFUND WHEN I RECIEVE THE ITEM IN MY HANDS).
THANKS -JOHN IN TX.
PS: THE ITEM MUST BE RETURNED SAFELY IN MY HANDS TO GET YOUR REFUND BACK (NO EXCEPTIONS). I MUST HAVE THE ITEMS RETURNED BEFORE GIVING BACK YOUR MONEY (NO EXCEPTIONS). YOUR MONEY WILL BE REFUNDED THE DAY I RECEIVE THE ITEMS BACK!
THANK YOU.
11- THANK YOU, LEE.
I WILL GLADLY GIVE YOU THE REFUND WHEN I RECIEVE THE BOX BACK IF NEEDED.
NO NEED FOR ANY UNNECESSARY FEEDBACK WITH REFUND.
I WON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE PUTTING THAT BOX BACK INTO MY PRIVATE WAX COLLECTION FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS!!
TALLBOYS ARE NOT HARD TO SELL HERE IN TEXAS AND I'M NOT DESPERATE TO SELL IT.
PLEASE NOTE: (IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYBODY SAYS ABOUT THE PACKS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY ARE ALL UNSEARCHED, UNOPENED, AND TOTALLY LEGIT!)
I PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER MISHANDLED THE INDIVIDUAL PACKS INSIDE THE BOX FOR AS LONG AS I'VE OWNED IT!)
THANK YOU -JOHN
12- I WILL FULLY CHECK THE BOX AND THE INDIVIDUAL PACKS FOR TAMPERING WHEN OR IF IT IS RETURNED FOR "PACK SWITCHING".
I HAVE FULL DETAIL PICTURES AND PHOTOS OF THE WAX PACKS IN THIER ORIGINAL SEALED CONDITIONS AND THE BOX WILL BE THOUROUGHLY CHECKED BEFORE GIVING REUFUND!
I MUST BE CERTAIN THAT EVERYTHING IS IN ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION AND STATE THAT I SENT IT IN AND THERE IS NO "IMPOSTER" PACKS, ETC.
I WILL BE ABLE TO NOTICE IF ANY PACKS WERE "SWITCHED" OR TAKEN OUT OF THEIR ORIGINAL "ORDER" INSIDE THE TALLBOY BOX!!!
THANK YOU AND HOPE THIS WORKS FOR THE BEST -JOHN
13- Thanks.
Just let me know what you plan to do by Monday.
John
14- I'M SORRY LEE -
I HAVE NO HARD FEELINGS ABOUT THE BOX BUT I AM VERY SORRY ABOUT THIS WHOLE MESS.
PLEASE READ SLOWLY & CAREFULLY:
I WILL SHOW YOU HOW TRUTHFUL OF A PERSON I AM RIGHT NOW (REGARDLESS OF THIS REFUND).
(I HAVE DECIDED NOT TO RESELL THE BOX AND JUST KEEP IT IN MY PERSONAL WAX COLLECTION BECAUSE I KNOW HOW RARE THEY ARE AND I KNOW THE FULL HISTORY).
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ALTHOUGH - BOTH OF YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT IT AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE NO PROBLEM GIVING YOU YOUR $550 REFUND.
----------------------
IMPORTANT NOTE:
BOTH OF YOU ARE VERY PROFESSIONAL BUSINESSMEN AND I DON'T QUESTION THAT - (BUT RESPECT YOU FOR THAT).
BUT I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHY BOTH OF YOU CAN SEE WHY THEY WERE "RESEALED" AND WHY BOTH OF YOU ARE ACTUALLY TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT IT.
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I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT THAT TALLBOY WAX BOX THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY KNOW.
(WHEN I PURCHASED THAT BOX BACK IN 1995 FROM A LOCAL SAN ANTONIO CONVENTION - THE BOX WAS IN MORE "PRISTINE" CONDITION AND "BETTER SHAPE" THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW).
ABOUT 8 YEARS AGO AROUND 1999 - I ACTUALLY HAD A SMALL "ACCIDENT" WITH THAT BOX, AND I ACCENDENTLY (DROPPED) IT ON THE FLOOR.
WHEN IT FELL, (I NOTICED RIGHT AWAY) THAT THE PACKAGES HAD NOT BEEN OPENED BUT HAD GOTTEN A LITTLE "BANGED" UP SINCE THEN.
THIS (DROP) OF THE BOX ALSO CAUSED THE ACTUAL BACK "CORNER-BREAK" ON THE TALLBOY BOX YOU SEE NOW ON THE BOX.
*(BUT ORIGINALLY THAT "CORNER-BREAK" WAS NOT THERE WHEN I PURCHASED IT - BUT WAS CAUSED BY ME DROPPING IT, AND NOT THE PREVIOUS DEALER.)
YES - THE BOX HAS BEEN DROPPED TO THE FLOOR (BUT STILL REMAINS IN ITS ORIGINAL SEALED CONDITIONS!) - AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHY YOU HAD TROUBLE NOTICING ANY RESEALED ITEMS.
THE BOX HAS BEEN DROPPED BUT IS STILL WORTHY FOR ME TO KEEP IN MY COLLECTION - SO I DON'T MIND YOU SENDING IT BACK TO ME ASAP!
I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT A BOX THAT HAS BEEN "DROPPED" ON THE FLOOR BEFORE.
I HOPE FEEDBACK IS OK.
15- Hey Lee,
REFUND:
Again, I am trully sorry about this whole mix-up and WILL DEFINITELY KEEP THE BOX IN MY PERSONAL COLLECTION FROM NOW ON.
PS: I ALREADY SOLD TWO (2) 1980 TOPPS WAX BOXES STILL SEALED THIS MONTH WITH NO COMPLAINTS FROM EITHER BUYERS SO I DON'T MIND KEEPING MY TALLBOYS.
THANK YOU AGAIN AND I HOPE YOU CAN FULLY UNDERSTAND THIS DELICATE SITUATION WITH THAT TALLBOY BOX.
I AM SORRY AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE ANY FEEDBACK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO
REFUND: YOU WILL GET YOUR FULL REFUND FOR THE BOX WHEN I RECIEVE IT NEXT WEEK.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU CAN SEND IT BY PRIORITY MAIL SO MAYBE I CAN HAVE IT BY NEXT FRIDAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I HOPE MY HONESTY IS JUST "GOOD ENOUGH" TO UNDERSTAND.
THANKS AGAIN AND SORRY FOR THIS WHOLE MISHAP.
~ JOHN IN TEXAS.
16- THOSE ARE KIND WORDS, LEE, BUT ITS SAD THAT MY HONESTY HOLDS ME BACK IN THIS BUSINESS AND I HAVE TO WATCH FOR SWINDLERS AT ALL TIMES!!!
I DON'T MIND IF YOU DON'T EVER BUY FROM ME AGAIN - BUT I WOULD RATHER YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND THE FULL TRUTH AND HISTORY ABOUT THE BOX.
I GUARANTEE THOSE PACKS ARE LEGIT (BUT HAVE BEEN DROPPED TO THE FLOOR - ONLY THAT ONE TIME) AND THAT'S IT.
I WOULD RATHER YOU BELIEVE IN THE TRUTH (REGARDLESS OF THE REFUND).
YOU CAN GO BY YOUR "EXPERTISE" ON THE ITEM BUT I KNOW THE TRUTH AND HAVE NO PROBLEM KEEPING THAT BAD BOY IN MY COLLECTION STILL SEALED.
AND OF COURSE, THIS ITEM WILL NEVER BE RELISTED AGAIN SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING BACK!
THANKS AND I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS BOX IS A LOT WEIRDER THAN FICTION OR ANY "EXPERTISE" IN THIS DELICATE MATTER.
LET ME KNOW THE CONFIRMATION NUMBER WHEN YOU SEND IT SO I CAN EXPECT IT.
THANKS -JOHN
17- LEE,
I KNOW I DON'T HAVE TO REMIND YOU TO:
PLEASE WRAP EVERYTHING THE WAY IT WAS AND NO MORE TAMPERING WITH MY PACKS!
PLEASE PACKAGE IT VERY PROFESSIONALLY AND SEND IT BACK TO ME FIRST THING ON MONDAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND YOUR GREAT COMMUNICATION THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS!
~ JOHN
ITS A VERY SENSITIVE BOX AND I DON'T WANT IT
18- LEE,REFUND CONDITIONS:
GET THE ORIGINAL WAX PACKAGED AND READY TO BE SHIPPED TO ME ASAP!
I HAVE TO TRUST THAT NONE OF MY ORIGINAL SEALED PACKS ARE TAMPERED WITH UNTIL YOU SHIP THE ITEM!PLEASE INFORM ME ABOUT THE PACKAGING PROCESS!!
PLEASE NOTE: **ALL THOSE SEALED TALLBOY PACKS ARE INDIVIDUALLY SIGNIFICANT TO ONE ANTHER AND THEY ALL VARY FROM ONE ANOTHER AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHICH PACKS ARE ALL MINE! (ALL PACKS WERE PHOTOGRAPHED AND DOCUMENTED AFTER I DROPPED THE BOX!)
NO "IMPOSTER" PACKS IN REFUND - (NO EXCEPTIONS), OR EBAY AUTHORITIES WILL BE INVOLVED WITH TRANSACTION.
AGAIN, TO COVER AND PROTECT MYSELF, I MUST KNOW THAT I AM NOT GETTING SWINDLED ON THE REFUND!!
ALL MY ORIGINAL PACKS WILL BE CLOSELY EXAMINED FOR TAMPERING BEFORE I GIVE BACK YOUR FULL REFUND - (NO EXCEPTIONS)!
NO TAMPERING AND NO IMPOSTER PACKS!!
JUST PACKAGE ASAP AND GET IT READY TO SHIP ASAP!
NO HARD FEELINGS - BUT I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TRUST YOU DURING THIS REFUND PROCESS - (NO EXCEPTIONS).
THANKS AND I HOPE THIS ALL WORKS OUT IN THE END FOR THE BEST - JOHN
19- BASICALLY, ITS SIMPLE.
EVERYTHING BETTER BE IN ITS ORIGINAL (STILL-SEALED) CONDITIONS FOR THE FULL REFUND!!
IF ANYTHING IS "OPENED" OR WAS OPENED AFTER DELIVERY IS UNACCEPTABLE AND NON-NEGOTIABLE.
EVERYTHING MUST BE RETURNED IN ORIGINAL SEALED CONDITIONS FOR REFUND AS DESCRIBED IN AUCTION LISTING AND 7-DAY RETURN PERIOD!
THANKS -JOHN
PS: I TRIED TO CALL YOU (BY PHONE) BUT YOUR LISTED NUMBER ON EBAY'S FILE IS NOT WORKING. I ALREADY TRIED CALLING YOU. PLEASE RESPOND!
I don't expect that anybody read all of this mess. If you did, you have more patience than I. Keep in mind, once we agreed on a price and that he would offer a refund, I DIDN'T ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS!! He sent me roughly 4 messages for every one I sent him, most regurgitating the same thing over and over again. Even though my $550 refund is on the line, I had to tell him to just chill out after his last message. I'm thinking I shouldn't have sent him this for financial reasons, but I really don't feel like answering emails from him over the next 4 days:
- I'm not sure why a phone call is necessary. I'm pretty clear on your refund conditions and I'm following all of your instructions. You've repeated your refund conditions several times and I completely understand. Nothing is unclear to me so there's no need to explain your policy any further. I'd prefer to communicate through ebay messages in order to have everything documented in the ebay messages so there's no chance for a "he said, she said" situation. The box has been packed up and will ship first thing Monday. Do you need me to take a picture of the package? Other than me getting you the D/C number after I take it to the post office, I don't see the need for any further communication until I ship it. Sit tight- your box will be there in a few days in the exact same condition it was sent to me with none of the packs tampered with or replaced. I've updated my phone number in my ebay profile, but there's really no need for you to call me.
Lee
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Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I didn't read that much stuff in high school! I've got a headache just scanning it!
<< <i>Wow, I read every word of that. I know I have nothing to do with this, but I really want to hit him hard with my hand. >>
I'll take a number and stand in line....
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That's what my father told my mother the first time I needed stitches.
The guy is hyper, but there is nothing there that indicates he is any
more crooked than the avergae EBAYer. I suspect he will issue the
refund.
If not, he can be sent here to read this thread as part of his punishment.
You should leave him neutral feedback along the lines of the deal was ok, but the seller could have communicated more.
However, I fully expect him to try to claim the packs were tampered with by you and refute the refund. I am sure you will triumph in the end, but alas I fear this seller will be in your life, and inbox, for some time yet.
Snorto~
Of course, if you paid with Paypal, you will get a refund (including shipping) regardless. Just make sure you send the box back with DC and sig confirmation, if you have to file a claim.
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geez lee--u've been having some bad-ass luck with some ebay sellers lately--especially sellers of vintage basketball (i'm assuming that this was a box of 76-77 topps basketball, yes?? i dont recall seeing any mention of what exactly the cards were with the exception of "tall boys"--pardon me if u stated what they were and i missed it while reading the novel)--this guy makes 61fleerfan look like the ebay seller of the year!! but i'm surprised that nobody has asked u who the seller is--i think we all need to know this so i can throw my computer out the window and run like hell if i ever come across one of his ebay auctions.
best of luck geting this resolved and getting this jackass out of your life.
Snorto~
<< <i>THAT GUY IS A MORON (NO EXCEPTIONS)!
You should leave him neutral feedback along the lines of the deal was ok, but the seller could have communicated more.
Now that made me laugh!!
Well since there was a rain delay for the Sox game I read the whole thing. I hope you get your money back ASAP, but something tells me you might have this lonely guy on your buddy list! Good luck.
<< <i>i want the doors album and ray manzarek combo ,but he prob dropped them too
But if he dropped it only once that would be okay wouldn't it?
Mike
When I see full boxes that have been dropped, the laws of physics dictate that the cardboard corner would be pushed inwards. I guess there is a rare freak percentage that the box could have been dropped while perfectly horizontal (and with top facing up) and all the force of the box hitting the floor would have been transfered to one single corner and spilt it, but highly, highly doubt it. More likely that box was split because of excess weight and poor storage, and that tear happened long before 1999. I hope you get your $$ back and put this all to rest.
I read the whole damn thing ( i do read fast though)
Personally send him back a box filled with dog crap in ziplock bags, then i'd file a chargeback
I've never seen any packs with a horizontal crease down the front. It looks like the wrappers were folded in half, and I'm guessing that didn't happen at the Topps factory. Also, for those of you that know anything about detecting reseals, the hot roller lines on the back don't match up (but you can't tell from the scan). There are also plenty of rips and creases on the wrappers that couldn't have gotten there unless the packs were opened. There's no doubt in my mind that they are resealed.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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That is insane I also read that word for word and there isn't an ice ball's chance in hell I would deal with anyone like that no matter what the had to sell .
I happen to know 2 people exactly like that they have to keep on saying the same thing over and over again , like you didn't Effin hear them the first 12 times , then after they are done , they say it using a few different words 12 more Effin times !
Leave that mutha Effa a negative feedback cause he wouldn't shut the hell up .
I kinda like the idea about the red eye , don't forget to bring a sock to stuff in his mouth
involved.
Once I finally get my refund Im negging the POS.
;-)
Steve
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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YOU KNOW - IF I HAD KNOWN YOU WERE JUST GOING TO REJECT THE TALLBOY BOX LIKE YOU DID - I WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BOTHERED WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE.
I'M AN HONEST BUYER AND POWERSELLER, AND AM VERY SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT I DO, (BUT WITH ALL DO RESPECT) -- I WOULDN'T HAVE EVER BOTHERED WITH YOU OR YOUR LITTLE $550 OFFER IF I KNEW YOU WEREN'T GOING TO COOPERATE WITH THIS DEAL.
--- BECAUSE I STILL DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU EVEN KNOW IF THEY ARE SEALED OR NOT! YOU CAN'T "PROVE" OR "DISPROVE" IT AND YOU JUST GOT YOUR GUT FEELING ABOUT IT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY HARD FEELINGS BECAUSE YOU WON'T FIND ANOTHER TALLBOY BOX FOR UNDER $2000 ON EBAY.
IT WAS JUST A BIG WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY FOR ME AND I CANT WAIT TO GET ALL MY PRODUCTS BACK FROM YOU SO IT CAN BE OVER WITH ALREADY!!
THIS BUSINESS WITH YOU WILL HOPEFULLY END WELL SO I CAN GIVE YOU YOUR REFUND AND NOT DEAL WITH THESE HASSELS ANYMORE!
THANKS -JOHN
This guy is just off his rocker. grote- you're exactly right. Once a year I do something like this and it almost always serves as a reminder to stay away from unopened on ebay.
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Lee,
I actually want to thank you for your input and insight and detail on this matter about the box.
Thanks for your honesty and as a very truthful person myself - I'm hoping to learn something from this whole expereince.
I will pick up that Murphy book also and take a look at it.
You make alot of legitmate POINTS about the possilbe previous owners of the box, etc, that make sense and I want you know that I believe in honesty and fairness - (but this REFUND WILL HAPPEN SHORTLY SO WE CAN MOVE ON.)
ITS REALLY NO BIG DEAL AND I HOPE TO POSSIBLY LEARN FROM THIS AND MAYBE GAIN SOME MORE EXPERIENCE WITH IT.
*(I Know I blew off some steam earlier because I STILL HAVE TO "PROTECT" MYSELF AND MY INVESTMENTS DURING THIS REFUND PROCESS).
HOPE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND, AND THAT MY INTENTIONS WERE NEVER BAD OR CROOKED -
I HOPE THE TRUTH IS ENOUGH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR FULL COOPERATION DURING THIS TIME -John
This message was 20 minutes after his last one. I'm not really sure how to react but I'm definitely not responding.
keep sending the same emails over and over again? PHYSCO!!!!
But I do not believe there are many packs , let alone wax packs that haven't been opened and resealed .
That is not to say there are none , I just believe there are way too many crooked folks out there , they know there is gold in some of those packs and the lure is just to great to not open and reseal .
I do know that you have done this before and have pulled some sweet cards though , so that is proof that there are some .
I believe even though stars are pulled from some of these packs , that still don't mean they didn't replace lets say a 8 or a 9 from the pack and replace with a 7 from stock . . .to me it is real risky .
Someone crack that guy in the head with a bat to shut him up !
Or at least break his fingers so he can't type all that nonsense
J/K I wouldn't wanna hurt anyone for something as silly as that
We can all feel confident in knowing that his MOTHER DROPPED HIM ON HIS HEAD ONLY ONCE.
This guy either needs to get out more or spend less time praying in front of his memorial alter to Jeffrey Dahmer.
IF YOU TAMPER WITH MY TALLBOYS, I'll KILL YA.
IF YOU BREATHE ON MY TALLBOYS...I'LL KILL YA.
IF YOU LOOK AT MY TALLBOYS...I'LL KILL YA...AND YOU WON'T GET A REFUND.
Doubt the guy means any harm probably just can't help it.
Who cares about his refund conditions? You paid through paypal right?
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Bosox1976
Angel: Lee is being very good about all this, let's give him his refund.
Psycho typer: You're right, i'm gonna grant him the full refund when he returns the box.
Devil: He probably damaged the packs doing his stupid examination.
Psycho typer: You're right, I better send another email telling him that everything better be in its original condition.
Angel: He did try to help you get more knowledge about pack resealing.
Psycho typer: You're right, i'm gonna grant him the full refund when he returns the box.