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thurman munson autos
justinstaff
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hey guys, i have 2 thurman munson autographed cards i got auto'd as a kid before he died. they are on 1978 and 1979 topps cards. any idea of what they might bring and should i get them certified or something. no doubt on authenticity just wanna get the most for them. any thoughts?
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Mantle. I would get them certified first..nice cards!
Kevin
I'm dying to see those !
id love to show
thanks
I'd really appreciate a heads up on your future plans for them. Can you let us know when and how you plan on moving them.
I don't think something of this magnitude would be called spam here???
Thansk
EDIT TO ADD: Definatly send them to PSA/DNA for authentication.
I say - get'em certified by PSA/DNA - holdered - up on the bay - and watch the fur fly!!!
Good luck and contratulations on some really sweet autos.
mike
Munson authentication is $100 a pop.
I have a Munson auto on a 1976 Topps card that I got in person. I remember distinctly when I got it too, because he was always very tough and was one of my "white whales" at the time. The autograph is a beautiful blue sharpie sig too (must have got him in a good mood that day). It's been in my collection ever since.
I've sent it to both PSA/DNA and JSA and both of them said it wasn't good. Unfortunately that is the state of the autograph hobby right now. It's almost impossible to sell a high-end signature without paying ransom to one of these companies.
Good luck with your Munson's what ever you decide. If the do get the OK then you're probably looking at a $2000-4000 payday for the two of them.
<< <i>Justinstaff - I'm not doubting that your story about the Munson autographs, but I suspect you got the one you posted in the mail. The signature does not look like Munson's. Before spending the money to get the autograph slabbed and authenticated, I would post the card on eBay with like a fixed price of $10,000 or higher and then pay for the PSA/DNA quick opinion service. Then end the auction. If they say it is "likely genuine" then it's probably worth the risk of sending in. Unlike cards, when they say an autograph is not good there your authenticating fee is gone - no vouchers like with cards.
Munson authentication is $100 a pop.
I have a Munson auto on a 1976 Topps card that I got in person. I remember distinctly when I got it too, because he was always very tough and was one of my "white whales" at the time. The autograph is a beautiful blue sharpie sig too (must have got him in a good mood that day). It's been in my collection ever since.
I've sent it to both PSA/DNA and JSA and both of them said it wasn't good. Unfortunately that is the state of the autograph hobby right now. It's almost impossible to sell a high-end signature without paying ransom to one of these companies.
Good luck with your Munson's what ever you decide. If the do get the OK then you're probably looking at a $2000-4000 payday for the two of them. >>
When you get the time Moose - I would be interested in seeing your Munson auto.
Thanx
mike
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Man , that is horrible !
If I knew I was telling the truth about getting his sig in person and it was rejected , they would basically be calling me a liar and with that I would have a huge problem with !
I suppose as long as you're not looking to sell it , it really don't matter , you know you got it from him on that date and that is all that matters .
But if I was trying to sell it , let's say you needed some funds pretty badly and knew you could get a decent price for them , and they wouldn't authenticate it and basically call me a liar heads would roll !
It is completely different though if I bought it from someone , I would have to take their word for it , as was the case with a Ruth auto I bought back in the day that I spent 3 K on .
I still have it though I paid way too much for that envelope to just throw it away , besides it represents lessons learned .
Now I pride myself on being able to spot Ruth forgeries and authentic sigs and I think I am better than some of the " Pros"
When I got burned , I went to hell and back to study all I could on that particular signature .
I feel bad for ya and what is happening with your Munson autograph Mr Moosedog , I think that is horrible, but like I said , you know it is real , that is all that matters unless ya need to sell one day .
If you'd rather get it privately, PM me with your email addy.
<< <i>stone - I'll post a scan in a day or two.
If you'd rather get it privately, PM me with your email addy. >>
<< <i>I'm not trying to fan the flames regarding the authenticty question but here is one that sold last year. I believe it, with the juice, brought nearly $4000. (Incidentally this is one of my dream cards to own.)
I don't see it as flaming but just trying to add to the discussion.
On the way he signs the "Munson" - it agrees with this one that I got from the Yanks.
Tho - I think mine's an autopen.
mike
<< <i>hey, actually it was hardly a memory, i was only 6 at the time. my father attended many many yankees and mets games in the era and it was simply "another yankee" in my mind at that age. i have a bunch of others from the 70s but obviously these 2 are the pinacle of my collection that i had signed at the games. not much of a story i know, but i cant remember too great of details from back then. every auto in my collection is from in person autographs, i cant see paying for one when you can get the thrill of meeting the person for usually cheaper than it would be to buy the card signed outright. imo of course >>
I'd like to see scans of some of the other Yankees autographs you got from the same time period you said you got this Munson sig...
<< <i>Tho - I think mine's an autopen. >>
Not an autopen, Mike - the Yankees, Mets, Phillies, Royals, and sometimes Pirates sent out those kinds of pictures. The autograph is just pre-printed on the picture. Common from the mid-1970s to the early 1980s. Those pictures are what you would get back if you wrote to the players c/o the teams, and the damn Yankees even kept the stuff that you sent!
72 yankees team signed on non-official ball.
Sorry for the terrible scan, it's hard to scan baseballs.
and cut it down to this...
That psa/dna '79 Topps is freakin' amazing.
Mike
I was actually just wondering about justinstaff, and the results of the PSA/DNA quik something or other to do with his ebay listing. Hope they weren't negative... ???
Ironmanfan, seems your request to see the other autos fell upon deaf ears.
ICE9, not sure I agree with cutting it out of the picture like that... even thought it looks friggn DEADLY in that slab, and that's how I would want mine to be.
<< <i>Hey, I was wondering what you guys think about this Munson? >>
Tell us about it new guy... welcome
<< <i>Hey, I was wondering what you guys think about this Munson?
The Munson looks to be some sort of a rubber stamp
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<< <i>Hey, I was wondering what you guys think about this Munson? >>
The Munson looks to be some sort of a rubber stamp >>
Ya, it sure does, I was thinking printer but that works better.
Munson seems to have quite a few different ways he signed stuff, I guess it was due to the space in which he was signing ?
That is one persons sig I wouldn't buy without authentication from a reputable Co.
<< <i>It's definitely a rubber stamp >>
What makes you think that?
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<< <i>It's definitely a rubber stamp >>
What makes you think that? >>
I don't think it would have blank spaces if it were anything else.
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<< <i>It's definitely a rubber stamp >>
What makes you think that? >>
I don't think it would have blank spaces if it were anything else.
I appreciate the help. I purchased this item a few weeks ago and when I look at the autograph outside of toploader it looks fine but that scan has always bothered me. I'm scanning it without the top loader, hopefully a better resolution scan will clear things up.
newhannibal, do you have any reason to believe it to be authentic?
If so will you be sending to PSA/DNA, or any other authenticators?
<< <i>I'm not going to pretend that I know anything about autos, for all I know his pen may have crossed a hair on the back of that photo. But there does seem to be alot of tiny little blanks along the way.
newhannibal, do you have any reason to believe it to be authentic?
If so will you be sending to PSA/DNA, or any other authenticators? >>
Nightcrawler, I purchased it from a reputable dealer who got it from one of the individuals pictured on the front, Munson and Michaels visited them at their little league field. It has a JSA LOA and supposedly Jimmy authenticated it himself (it seems almost everyone says that about stuff authenticated by JSA). I'm currently scanning it at a higher resolution right now because the toploader has a ton of scratches.
I thought that JSA had a good rep??? One of the best, I could be wrong???
It really is one of the nicest I've seen.
And sorry about laughing at Ironmanfans reply, I was tired and it hit me the wrong way.
<< <i>Wow...
I thought that JSA had a good rep??? One of the best, I could be wrong???
It really is one of the nicest I've seen.
And sorry about laughing at Ironmanfans reply, I was tired and it hit me the wrong way.
No problem, JSA is supposed to be one of the best but everyone makes mistakes (hence why I'm semi scared, since this auto is the best Munson I've seen in a long time.)
Here is a scan without the toploader and at 1200 dpi, I'm going to scan it at 2400 dpi. Any thoughts are appreciated.
I think I see the stroke lines???
Ironmanfan?