What do you guys think of this 1869 Seated Half Dollar?

Russ · April 2, 2008 4:47AM

?

Russ, NCNE

Cnitas · April 2, 2008 4:58AM

Ow! My eyes!

TomB · April 2, 2008 5:01AM

Maybe it's the compression of the image, but the piece just looks off to me. If real, it appears to be a well-dipped proof that likely had some stubborn surface crud removed from it, especially on the reverse.

Bubblehead · April 2, 2008 5:02AM

Russ... Tell me true...

Can I afford it??

RYK · April 2, 2008 5:03AM

Is there chocolate on the inside?

I would reserve judgment until I see a RussView™ photo.

Russ · April 2, 2008 5:04AM

<< Maybe it's the compression of the image, but the piece just looks off to me. If real, it appears to be a well-dipped proof that likely had some stubborn surface crud removed from it, especially on the reverse. >>

Not image compression, but the "looks off" part puts you on the right track.

Russ, NCNE

DJCoinz · April 2, 2008 5:05AM

I don't particularly care for it...too much crud/haze in the fields.

Russ · April 2, 2008 5:05AM

<< I would reserve judgment until I see a RussView™ photo. >>

That is one.

Russ, NCNE

Russ · April 2, 2008 5:06AM

<< I don't particularly care for it...too much crud/haze in the fields. >>

Not crud or haze.

Russ, NCNE

JoesMaName · April 2, 2008 5:07AM

I'm no expert but the rims don't look proof struck... and as we now know something is amiss... Polished and frosted??

cheezhed · April 2, 2008 5:07AM

Chinese?

Russ · April 2, 2008 5:09AM

<< Polished and frosted?? >>

Bingo! The areas that look like haze are actually just un-polished portions.

Russ, NCNE

JoesMaName · April 2, 2008 5:09AM

<< Chinese? >>

If it is - were in big troubke!

WTCG · April 2, 2008 5:09AM

It has a nice overall look, but recently both PCGS and NGC have been calling classic proofs with similar looks as having "altered surfaces". The appearance on the reverse and the "halo" effect around a few of the stars on the obverse are evidence of this.

My opinions come from recent personal experiences. I submit classic proof coins for grading quite often and I have realized that coins with a similar look have been getting rejected by both PCGS and NGC.

guitarwes · April 2, 2008 5:11AM

I think I'd like to have it. Wouldn't want to buy it, but still would like to have. That's what I think.

Next........

JoesMaName · April 2, 2008 5:11AM

Hurray I got one!

Man it still looks so sharp... It was my best guess and gut feel but I wouldn't have put money on it.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · April 2, 2008 5:13AM

<< Polished and frosted?? >>

That's was I was thinking

gecko109 · April 2, 2008 5:17AM

So heres the $64,000 question.....What could one expect to get if selling that particular coin?

Russ · April 2, 2008 5:17AM

Whomever altered actually didn't do too bad a job. It looks kind of cool in-hand. But, a close inspection of the mirrors makes it rather obvious.

Russ, NCNE

gecko109 · April 2, 2008 5:27AM

So what would an altered coin like that expect to fetch Russ?

MajorDuty · April 2, 2008 5:30AM

Is it an altered MS coin to look PF or a buffed up PF?

Russ · April 2, 2008 5:46AM

<< Is it an altered MS coin to look PF or a buffed up PF? >>

Altered business strike.

Russ, NCNE

coindeuce · April 2, 2008 7:29AM

Kinda like the "California Proof" Morgans that surface every now and then. Whizzed overall to a deep mirror prooflike appearance, and then the devices are artificially frosted.

DJCoinz · April 2, 2008 7:34AM

<< 

<< Polished and frosted?? >>

Bingo! The areas that look like haze are actually just un-polished portions.

Russ, NCNE >>

Aha...yikes!

roadrunner · April 2, 2008 7:56AM

One of the many reasons why I like to stick to totally original MS type coins with full frosty cartwheels. Overall less options when it comes to screwing with the coin.

roadrunner

BlindedByEgo · April 2, 2008 11:16AM

Polished to a high sheen.

21Walker · April 2, 2008 11:22AM

Russ, Does it come with drawn butter???????...........Rick

tightbudget · April 2, 2008 11:23AM

Altered surfaces

What do you guys think of this 1869 Seated Half Dollar?

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