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And, if you were a bourse chair, dealer, etc. (depending on who has the ability realistically make an improvement) what would you do to make your "least favorite" thing better?
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Please clarify. Is it the facility, the dealers table, ... What could realistically be done to make it better?
The fear of being followed after I leave a show.
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1. Being able to personally examine a broad selection of hard to find coins
2. Guys who are honest, and treat people respectfully
3. Shows which are set up with plenty of chairs and space to walk around
Least favorites
1. Rude dealers that aren't respectful of potential customers
2. Dealers pushing coins that have obviously been cleaned
3. Guys on both sides playing stupid games trying to take advantage of one another
Least favorite thing: Dealers with no customer service skills.
Piss poor lighting
Show dates not accessible to the general collector who has to work for a living!
-......overgraded cleaned junk, snooty boorish uppity types, travel plans at last minute because thats how I usually do it
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
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fix: go to one.
Most favorite: Maybe I will go to one.
Seeing lots of rare coins.
Getting the adrenaline rush of bidding more than I can afford.
Seeing old friends and making new ones.
Playing golf, eating great steaks and drinking beer.
Walking the floor looking for coins.
Auction previews - learning about new series.
Educational and PCGS exhibits.
Meeting with like-minded collectors (club meetings, for example).
Least favorite:
The travel (airline delays, renting cars, etc).
Bad lighting.
Elderly assistants at lot viewing that can't get their act together or seem to find the coins you want.
Finding a waiting list for seating at lot viewing.
Loud, obnoxious dealers on cell phones during lot viewing.
People that tie up chairs at lot viewing when not even in the room (prolonged periods, not brief breaks).
Bad, overpriced food at the convention center.
Seeing unfriendly dealers and occasionally collectors with the same tempermant.
Overly talkative dealers or loud conversations during auction sessions.
Seeing the same bad coins over and over again aka viewing 200 coins and not finding one worth bidding on.
Body bags or no upgrades/crossovers.
A bourse half filled with sports cards or stamps.
Over priced early bird badges.
Overpriced parking.
Poor location or "dead" town.
Being told, "Bid what you want, you still won't get the coin".
Getting outbid.
Finding out the one coin I want is at the end of Platinum night at 2AM.
Getting to view the coins in person
Large selection
Getting to talk coins with other folks as passionate as I am
Dislikes:
Display cases full of coins with no prices...I understand the dealer may want to talk to you about a coin but honestly I want to know in advance if I even have half the money in my wallet to afford a coin so when I see no prices....I just keep walking.
Bad lighting at the dealer table is number 2 and I ran into that at the least show I went too. I could see the dealer had some coins with color but I couldn't tell if they were dogs or rainbows. Finally I asked him if he could move his light from 1 case to another and while he didn't want to unclip it he did let me open the case and take some coins out to see if they had enough color. I did end up purchasing a monster rainbow toned Frankie from him
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
everywhere i go there will be 20 worn out s-vdb's about the same for 09-s's ...14-d's...
hardly anything mint state...when it is .....its the stuff from the 30's 40's and 50's
depressing.
<< <i>i'm a lincoln cent collector...
everywhere i go there will be 20 worn out s-vdb's about the same for 09-s's ...14-d's...
hardly anything mint state...when it is .....its the stuff from the 30's 40's and 50's
depressing. >>
LOL, you too huh? I forgot that one
The part I just don't like is the fact that a dealer will have hundreds of coins I might be interested in, but has no prices, and when I find a coin I would like to buy, the Guy has to get a spread sheet and determine his price. He should have done that already instead of just sitting there waiting for a customer.
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
Go to any other hobby-type commercial show and look at how they are organized and presented – gem shows sparkle, antique shows have key lighting all over the place and carpet on the booths. Some shows have real chairs that won’t buckle under the tonnage of certain participants. Even gun shows are sometimes marginally better, although I’d prefer to have somebody point a slab at me than be looking down the barrel of a Winchester.
There are some older posts with considerable detail on show improvements – I suggest you take a look at those.
1. Very narrow aisles...a crowded bourse floor is great, but nothing is more frustrating than trying to squeeze through a bourse floor that has one row of bourse tables too many.
2. Poor lighting...bad lighting is difficult to describe, but when the lights make looking at coins feel awkward then buying and selling becomes more difficult time comsuming.
3. Chronically difficult dealers...most coin dealers are fine people, but there are those few dealers who everybody knows are consistent jerks or who everybody hates and refuses to set up next to. We all know who those people are, and show organizers should attempt to dissuade those dealers from attending. Doing so would make the show a happier place for everybody else.
4. Dealers who disregard the realities of time...apparently time of day isn't a concern for some coin dealers. Unless there is a legitimate reason for doing so, it is irresponsible and lazy for a bourse dealer to casually show up to their table some time around noon. If the coin show opens at 10am, then they should show up by 10:30 at the latest. We've all seen these guys before when walking around the bourse floor at 11:30am...the one or two tables that still have their chairs and table covers over their cases.
5. Conflicting schedules with national shows...sure your local coin show is purely local, but holding it on the same week as a Long Beach, Baltimore or ANA conventions will definitely hurt business and attendance.
6. Unhealthy food selections...most coin dealers aren't the most health conscious folks out there (it's shocking how high the percentage of coin dealers over the age of 40 are diabetic) but food service at your local show should include healthier options instead of the normal offered fare of hot dogs, grease-soaked chili nachos, donuts, candy bars and sodas.
7. Antiquated facilities...a newer, modern building is always more comfortable that that 50 year old Elk's Lodge or Masonic Hall with its drab brown color scheme and aromas that wreak of old people smell. Read #8.
8. Restrooms without any running hot water...this one's one of my biggest annoyances and it's rather self explainatory. Besides, coin dealers and collectors alike aren't exactly famous for bearing high standards for hygiene.
9. Uninviting host cities...many coin club organizers are adamant about hosting their coin show in their hometown, regardless of how much of a dump the city may be. Drop the ego, swallow your pride and consider hosting your coin show in a neighboring city if that city is perceived to be safer, more hospitable or has better facilities.
10. Lack of parking...I resent having to park my car a half mile down the street because the dozen or so parking spaces are all taken up by early in the morning by the dealers with tables. It's even worse when you are a bourse dealer and you have no choice but to haul equipment a long way for several trips because all the nearby spaces and loading areas are fully occupied.
11. Lack of adequate security...hire some real cops to patrol the bourse floor. That 70-year old semi-geriatric "rent-a-cop" who's falling asleep on the job isn't going to be much of a defense in the event that the coin show comes under attack by armed assailants.
12. Rigged door prize/ raffle drawings...Most club shows have some kind of prize drawings and the majority are legitimate, but it happens much more than you'll probably think and it's absolutely dishonest to say the least.
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<< <i>Bad, overpriced food. >>
I see that you are improving, Tom. I hope that you are feeling as good as you are replying.
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<< <i>Favorite thing: A good cherrypick.
Least favorite thing: Dealers with no customer service skills. >>
Would you rather cherry pick a rude dealer or pay a fair price to one that is customer friendly?
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Coins everywhere.
Everyone talkin' about coins.
Finding something you desperately want in an unexpected place.
Least Favorite Things:
Dicey security.
Guys who spread briefcases / Graysheets / laptops all over our cases blocking the view of everyone else.
A line of 20 people waiting at the world's slowest post office.
I was a Monkey
<< <i>Least favorite: I haven't been to a coin show.
fix: go to one.
Most favorite: Maybe I will go to one. >>
Same here. I missed the big show in Charlotte last year due to travel.
"Would you rather cherry pick a rude dealer or pay a fair price to one that is customer friendly? "
We may have to make up T-shirts with this slogan Julian
Sorry, Julian. I'll try to buy something from you next time, though.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
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Frank
Least favorite thing: Sunday afternoon
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Steve
Least favorite... Poor lighting, rude people or dealers, same old junk, or coins I DON'T need, overpriced coins, cleaned junked coins, no parking, and over-crowded spaces with little room to walk around...
Least Favorite: Seeing said dealers look like they can't be bothered by YNs.
1. Enormous selection (at least in the case of the big national shows).
2. Being able to admire and hold in hand pieces that I will never in my lifetime be able to afford.
3. Meeting forum friends, and talking numismatics with people.
4. Seeing the different reactions to my bourse attire (the Holey Coin Vest and Holey Gold Hat).
Least favorite things?
1. Crowded tables where you can't see the coins, much less get the dealer's attention.
2. Dealers who don't even nod at you, even when their table isn't crowded.
3. Not being able to type in a keyword to immediately search out what you're looking for, like you'd be able to online.
4. Spending too much money. (Going hog wild in my enthusiasm, and being a much less carefu or restrained shopper than I'd otherwise be.)
One day I might cross the threshold into attending shows as a dealer instead of a buyer. Then this list is likely to change a little bit.
Bad, Overpriced coins.
Favorite- Finding coins that i like and can buy at a reasonable prices.
Least Favorite-Dealers not being at their tables, sometimes for hours on end.
Least favorite: Rows and rows of tables with nothing but Morgan crap.
lack of collector grade XF-AU seated coins
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My least favorite thing is not enough IKE's to go through! I know they are out there just waiting for me, but I can't seem to get folks to bring them in!
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Cranky dealers who won't let me cherrypick, is my least favorite
He hit the nail on the head!
Least favorite: Mean, stupid people.
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