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I just learned that the 1999 Dolley Madison commemorative was designed by Tiffany. Why hasn't Mrs.

LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
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I was taking a read through the new QDB book on Commemoratives. For the 1999 Dolley Madison commemorative, he writes,

"The design was made by a for-profit firm in the private section, Tiffany & Co., jewelers, who were permitted to put their trademark on each side, but not the full name of the business, as requested originally."


I had never known this. QDB writes that this should have been controversial, but it was not. Soon, I am picking up a BIG piece of jewelry for Mrs. L's 40th birthday. Had I known about this coin, I would have spent the $50 for the Proof 65 and saved myself a bundle. image
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  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭
    imageimage
    Collecting coins, medals and currency featuring "The Sower"
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    Advertising is not permitted on a coin. The monogram is sufficiently obscure that Treasury felt it was not advertising. Now...wonder who is the guy with the initial"P"???
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    Although I am not, as a rule, a collector of any modern Mint offerings, I do recall that when the Dolly Madison Commemorative was first issued, I was immediately attracted to the beautiful design. There was some minor controversy in the numismatic weeklies (Coin World and Numismatic News) regarding the Tiffany logo appearing on a United States coin, but in my mind, if this was representative of what the private sector could produce, compared with the generally bland designs from the Mint, why not only allow it, but also encourage further participation by private sector artists? The Dolly Madison Commemorative remains the one single modern Mint product in my collection. I find the design to be stunning. Look at the coin posted by Coin Husker, and just imagine what our coins could look like.
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Soon, I am picking up a BIG piece of jewelry for Mrs. L's 40th birthday. Had I known about this coin, I would have spent the $50 for the Proof 65 and saved myself a bundle. image

    Mother's Day is right around the corner. image
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • CB2597CB2597 Posts: 3,042
    Wow its beautiful...I might just pick one up myself. Thanks for posting the image CoinHusker.image
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I totally agree with Mrhalfdime.... more art is what we need on our coinage... NOT dead presidents... however, as long as we have PC bureaucrats running the system, we will be doomed to less than mediocrity. Cheers, RickO
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭
    You could get Mrs. Longacre two Dolley Madison silver dollars, and take them to a jeweler to be artfully ensconced in elaborate bezels and mounted as the Mother of all Earrings.

    She'll be the talk of the Thursday-evening Lady's Charity pinochle club.

  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    What would the first ladies' series look like if the mint had tried to do things more like the Dolly Madison commemorative? What would the president's series look like?

    The difficulty with Tiffany's was that they refused to identify a specific designer for the coin and wanted corporate recognition on the coin. They had to settle for the tiny logo, but that doesn't diminish the high quality of the design.
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do they come in little blue boxes?image

    Ren
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How many US coins have the initials of the designer on the coin when the designer is different than the engraver?

    T & Co.: Dolley Madison Dollar
    GG: Sacagawea Dollar
    VDB: Lincoln Cent

    I believe many coins only have the initials of the engravers, not designers.
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  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    I was so impressed with Coin Husker's Dolly Madison silver dollar, I just removed my one and only UNC example from its original plastic capsule, placed it in a Wayte Raymond dollar page, and set it on top of my water heater. It can only improve. I will keep you posted, over time, on its appearance.
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    How many US coins have the initials of the designer on the coin when the designer is different than the engraver?

    It appears that almost all coins designed by someone other than a U.S Mint engraver, have initials of the designer, not the engraver. For example, Victor Brenner designed the Lincoln cent, but he did not engrave the final hubs/master dies. (Medallic Art co. cut the first hubs, but US Mint made the final ones and the revised hubs in late August 1909.)

    ..or did I misunderstand the posting?
  • AthenaAthena Posts: 439 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why hasn't Mrs. L. purchased one? >>



    She's not a coin geek?

    Sorry, Longacre, couldn't help it! image
  • charleycharley Posts: 2,071
    I personally would not have bought her one. This could possibly(probably) lead to questions about gold coins or platinum coins and why you have not purchased any for her and.... This is very dangerous territory. Respectfully, John Curlis

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