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Grade Revealed -- 1921 Morgan Dollar -- NGC MS-63

StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Welcome to this latest episode of Guess the Grade.

I invite you to guess the grade of this 1921 Morgan Dollar by voting in the poll, and also encourage you to please post your grading criteria, comments and observations to keep this thread both lively and active. image

(PS - The contact marks on Miss Liberty's neck appear overly accentuated on the reflected light photo, vs how the coin appears in hand.)

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Stuart

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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    62 PL

    I just don't like the chatter on the cheek and neck.

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    eCoinquesteCoinquest Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭
    I would say a 64PL as it is nice but as some marks on the cheek. As for DMPL, it is pretty deep, but not deep enough....image
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    GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    63pl
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    commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,102 ✭✭✭
    I said 64PL.

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    ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I went with 64 PL. There are some marks on the neck and a lot of little chatter but this is IMO offset by a very good strike. It is interesting that just a different photo angle really covers up some of the marks, especially on the lower front neck.From the photos it looks like there are some mirrored fields. All in all a really nice 21!

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    StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So far with 19 votes cast, we seem to have a very symmetrical spread of grading opinions for this coin.

    Stuart

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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭
    i simply guess 64 with no PL.
    i mean the coin is obviously close to PL but i am going to say without.

    good looking coin no matter the grade.
    thanks for the give away!
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    JulioJulio Posts: 2,501 ✭
    I went 64. jws
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    DwaineODwaineO Posts: 1,701
    MS 63 PL
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    DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856 ✭
    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say MS65PL. You don't see mirrored fields on 21 morgans too often and I'm gonna guess they bumped it up a point.
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    NHSBaseballNHSBaseball Posts: 2,470 ✭
    64-pl. The two different photos make it hard to judge the surfaces.
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    metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Going to say 64PL
    Don't see many 21's in proof like condition!
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with fc and julio on MS 64.

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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63PL
    An amateur assesment here.

    Neat thread.

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    ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
    Nice coin Stuart...........my fav year.


    And my wag is 63PL





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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,285 ✭✭✭
    Great obverse strike but the reverse is a little weak (with too many contact marks to go 65 anyway); thus, I would say MS64. Additionally, the fields are nice, but not reflective enough to go PL IMO (but it could be the pics).
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    sweetwillietsweetwilliet Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭
    I went with 63pl, probably too much chatter for a much higher grade, but the strike is nice, so I wouldn't be surprised by a 64pl.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63... Cheers, RickO
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    dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    real grade = ms-61
    slabed grade = ms-63

    typical unattractive example of the date, semi-pl surfaces

    K S
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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stuart,
    Knowing the quality coins I have seen from you in recent threads, I am going to say 65PL image

    Nice 21 Morgan image
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    HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice strike, I would give it 63PL.
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    mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭
    64 pl for me
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    StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One more bump to allow folks to vote and post their thoughts before I post the grade tonight, after this thread sinks down into Page 3 PCGS US Coin Forum oblivion... image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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    ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭


    << <i>Stuart,
    Knowing the quality coins I have seen from you in recent threads, I am going to say 65PL image

    Nice 21 Morgan image >>




    After I voted I had the same thought, sorta..........................................Stuart wouldn't buy a 63 21 morgan.image





    Herb







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    dizzleccdizzlecc Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭
    Stuart would absolutely buy a 63 if he thought it had the eye appeal of a 64 or 65 with semi pl surfaces.

    The coin does have a strong stike but lots of small hits that look like they may sub due the overall mirrors.
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    StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This 1921 Morgan Dollar is graded NGC MS-63 (no PL designation) although the coin in hand appears to have the eye appeal of an MS-64 PL. It must have just barely missed receiving the Prooflike designation from NGC.

    She's got a super strong strike and a moderate cameo, both of which are not typical for a 1921 Morgan Dollar.

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    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭
    dang. and here i thought they would give it a bump due to being
    almost proof like. i should have been more conservative!

    alas, 64 was close. nice coin!
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    RickMilauskasRickMilauskas Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭
    I thought it was a 63 PL...as you said..it must have just missed.

    Nice Morgan Stuart!image

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