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THE FINEST QUALITY EARLY SILVER COIN


IN MY HUMBLE OPINION the absolute finest early silver coin is my 1807 quarter.I recently went to my stash and really studied it.Its preservation is amazing !
Its got original skin,200 years of patina, which is absolutely fuc-ing gorgeous, and POP which will make your shorts bulge.The design and strike of the coin is just about as good as it gets.
BTW in the words of PCGS master grader Ron Howard it has what he calls BINGO.Both PCGS and NGC graded the coin ms 67.
I would be willing to display my coin alongside anything silver.IMHO it blows away the 1796 quarter graded ms 67,the 1806 half graded ms 67 and any early half dime graded whatever.
I guess I will also mention I just turned down $1,000,000 for the coin because I feel it is irreplaceable.
The coin is best viewed in person but it can be seen on Shylocks web-site coingallery.org

Stewart Blay

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  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stew, pics, please. Mike
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is it finer than the Contursi 1794 dollar? I saw that one in hand and it is astonishing.
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  • I'm certainly not a prude.....but I have kids that read this forum. Could you please edit out the offensive play on a word? Thanks..and a fantastic coin I might add.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,166 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is it finer than the Contursi 1794 dollar? I saw that one in hand and it is astonishing. >>



    Yes. The AMON CARTER 1794 dollar is kinda a drab light brownish color in person [although it certainly photographs well with enough light on it]. Stewart's quarter is amazingly fresh and spectacular in hand.

    Stewart: I bid $1.1M! image
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One beautiful coin...and considering the age, phenomenal. Cheers, RickO
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shylocks web-site coingallery.org is spectacular, hadn't been there before thanks for the URL! image
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  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    Sure does look amazing! Please bring it to Summer ANA in Baltimore!! image
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A fortuitous purchase by Stuart at Eliasberg for $165,000. Of course the naysayers will be wondering where all the Raymond rings of toning are? What, no yellow, magenta, blue, green rings of color? It couldn't get a "star" grade without those (lol). Fortunately Eliasberg owned this coin and not Benson.

    roadrunner
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a great coin and it's OK to love your coins in a material kind of way I guess...

    but when blood starts to leave your cranium towards another part of you anatomy while holding a slab IMHO it's time for a new hobby imageimage

    Will the slab be sanitized prior to the scheduled auction? image
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  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,076 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have been fortunate enough to examine both the Amon Carter 1794 dollar and the Elisberg/Blay 1807 quarter in hand and the luster on the 1807 quarter is far superior. Shylock does a great job imaging coins but this coin is even better in person. Maybe we can convince Stewart to display it at the Baltimore ANA? The coin deserve a case of it's own. Thanks for sharing Stewart!image
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh, you mean like the Gov'na of New Yawk?

    roadrunner
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  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    Very nice coin, did you actually get it at the Eliasberg auction?

    Tom

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin, Stewart.

    BTW, I graded the Eliasberg 1796 a quarter point higher than the 1807 when I viewed the sale. It would be fun to put the two coins side by side again, for show and tell.
    Andy Lustig

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  • elwoodelwood Posts: 2,414


    If there was one coin I had to have it would be this quarter.




    Yes, he bought it out of the auction.

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  • etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭
    That is an amazing coin.

    I guess I have been in a hole, I didn't know that it existed.

    Thanks for sharing.

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IN MY HUMBLE OPINION the absolute finest early silver coin is my 1807 quarter.

    Stewart - Do you remember the Norweb 1800 half dime?
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • Sunshine Rare CoinsSunshine Rare Coins Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    better than the 1804 S$ PR-68?
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One feature of a fully lustrous mint state coin is that it's original luster cannot be put back on nor hidden. Hence the few original early bust coins existing with full cartwheels, no rub and choice surfaces. The look of such a coin is unmistakeable and jolting.

    With proof coins it is far easier to screw with the surfaces, clean then up occasionally, and still have them tone back down over the years for us to admire them today. Many a proof coin, even with a high grade assigned has some pretty dead surfaces hiding under that flashy and iridescent patina.

    The above comparison is why early on I leaned heavily toward MS coins and steered away from proofs. It's actually easier imo to identify a screwed with business strike than a messed with proof when they are both toned. In most cases the proof coins (post 1858) were far more common than their business strike sisters.

    roadrunner

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  • TahoeDaleTahoeDale Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭
    One more, and perhaps the best, example of a coin that is all about eye-appeal. Add the strike, and 200 plus years of existence, then ONE Million seems about right.

    Stewart, you don't need any more nice coins!
    TahoeDale
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    I'd like to see what that coin would look like in a Mark Goodman image.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When NGC saw that coin did they suggest a "conservation" and then the possibility of a MS68 holder? image

    roadrunner
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  • a039a039 Posts: 1,546
    B-I-N-G-O! image
  • Sunshine Rare CoinsSunshine Rare Coins Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd like to see what that coin would look like in a Mark Goodman image. >>



    Or PCGS truview!
  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    You turned down 1mil???

    I would have said SOLD!
    image
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,074 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Is it finer than the Contursi 1794 dollar? I saw that one in hand and it is astonishing. >>



    Yes. The AMON CARTER 1794 dollar is kinda a drab light brownish color in person [although it certainly photographs well with enough light on it]. Stewart's quarter is amazingly fresh and spectacular in hand.

    Stewart: I bid $1.1M! image >>



    Agreed, TDN. The pedigree of this dollar should not be denigrated by Mr. Crackout.
  • I once owned the unique 1807 quarter with a plain edge. Sold it a few years ago in an ANR sale.

    Stewart's coin is a real frosty gem, but I'll bet the edge reeding isn't complete. Seems the collar didn't work properly this year for the quarter dollars.
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  • Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭✭
    that coin is sofa king cool
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  • looks like it needs a quick dip in jewel luster to me.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,475 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image >>


    unscramble the letters:
    ginbo
    gobin
    ingob
    bigon
    bingo ?
    BOING !


  • NicNic Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd sell the quarter at the current prices. The Norweb half dime is MS68 all day. K
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ...in the words of PCGS master grader Ron Howard...

    He was good as Opie, alright as Richie Cunningham, but really became a great director. He grades coins too?

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  • busco69busco69 Posts: 815 ✭✭
    Stewart that is one nice coin and I agree with you 100%.
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,166 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If a certain bust dollar didn't have a fingerprint in the obverse field, it'd be better. image
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmmmm...why the hype. Has it been consigned?? image

    Would love to see the coin in person. I suspect it's everything LMS claims it to be. Congrats on having the guts to step up and buy it when you did. Was velveta the underbidder?
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>When NGC saw that coin did they suggest a "conservation" and then the possibility of a MS68 holder? image

    roadrunner >>



    Exactly what I was thinking. This is precisely the kind of coin that it would work on.
  • DrPeteDrPete Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭
    Stewart,

    I'll only consider buying it if you get a CAC sticker on it. image
    Dr. Pete
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    i do'nt see how any of the coins mentioned in this thread could be considered the finest "early silver coin" until the hoard of '96 quarters is finally broken up.

    K S
  • firstmintfirstmint Posts: 1,171
    After doing extensive research on the Col Green 1796 quarters, I have come to the conclusion that there is little remaining of the group that he had.

    When the lot was piece-mealed out to collectors and dealers (by B G Johnson in St. Louis in the late 1930s), Jimmy MacCallister got the biggest amount, "about 100 pieces" according to Abe Kosoff who was a new dealer in 1937. This is his number based on recall of some 30 years later. Unfortunately, his estimate is not really valid according to the numbers that have been tracked since.

    We are talking only the Uncirculated pieces here. The finest one from the Green hoard was offered in a 1939 JC Morgenthau sale #404. The buyer was one of the Stack brothers in NYC. This coin recently came onto the market from the Knoxville collection, and is considered the finest one of the date.

    Whether it is the finest early silver coin depends on what qualifiers are considered.

    Any pieces that are still remaining are most likely in a bank vault in NYC, as MacCallister had good contacts with people who were involved with the NY Stock Exchange.

    More information can be found in my Henry Voigt book, where I devote an entire chapter to the 1796 quarters.
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've always wondered about Kosoff's statement as well. But stranger things have happened - don't forget the 1904-O Morgans.
  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Comparing a quarter to the half disme, early dollars, or even bust halves is a bit over the top. That said you have a nice coin. Of course if you buy the lustre and the patina, and not the coin then I guess even a silver planchet would be in the running for finest quality early silver coin.

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