Post Your R6, R7, and R8 coins here....
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Let's make this the rarest thread these boards have ever seen. Post your R6, R7, and R8 examples.
Rarity Scale:
R6- 13-30 known
R7- 4-12 known
R8- 1-3 known
My recent grab from Phoenix: 1825/4 B-3 (R3) CBQ, but with full reverse CUD (terminal die state) this becomes an R7.
(Sorry, the picture sucks, but the coin in hand looks nicer)
Rarity Scale:
R6- 13-30 known
R7- 4-12 known
R8- 1-3 known
My recent grab from Phoenix: 1825/4 B-3 (R3) CBQ, but with full reverse CUD (terminal die state) this becomes an R7.
(Sorry, the picture sucks, but the coin in hand looks nicer)
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my coins.
can you show me a website that allows one to determine the values and categories?
thanks.
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Rarity Scale:
R6- 13-30 known
R7- 4-12 known
R8- 1-3 known
well that shuts me out in the cold. ;-) very very few lib half eagles can say
they fit into those 3 categories. I can think of about 2 offhand, 1854-S 1875-P.
All the rest have many more known then 20+ easily.
i am not considering varieties as a valid choice though.
<< <i>Stone.....rare or not...that's not an attractive coin......Sorry. >>
Attractive or not, I still kinda like it
<< <i>it may be helpful for folks like me who do not know how to determine the R rating for
my coins.
can you show me a website that allows one to determine the values and categories? >>
Sheldon's R scale is listed on USPatterns.com:
<< <i>R - Rarity scale (by William H. Sheldon):
Unique
R - 8, 2 or 3
R - 7 (High) 4 - 6, (Low) 7 - 12
R - 6, (High) 13 -20, (Low) 21 -30
R - 5, 31 - 75
R - 4, 76 - 200
R - 3, 201 - 500
R - 2, 501 - 1250
R - 1, Over 1250 >>
Can billions of examples still be R1?
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
Here are a trio of R6 half dimes.
when you count their pop for the date/MM as a whole?
just curious is all. even a chain cent cannot call itself R6+ unless you
nitpick it into categories.
<< <i>it appears to me that everyone is posting varieties and not rare coins
when you count their pop for the date/MM as a whole?
just curious is all. even a chain cent cannot call itself R6+ unless you
nitpick it into categories. >>
Very few coins would be R2+ if you counted the entire pop for the date/MM as a whole.
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<< <i>it appears to me that everyone is posting varieties and not rare coins
when you count their pop for the date/MM as a whole?
just curious is all. even a chain cent cannot call itself R6+ unless you
nitpick it into categories. >>
Very few coins would be R2+ if you counted the entire pop for the date/MM as a whole. >>
well that is not quite true. i can pick out many dates/MM in the lib half eagle series which easily
pass the R2-R3 level. Even R4.
I just find it strange that by using varieties one places a coin in a high R bracket when
i am not quite sure it was designed for that use. was it?
i thought it was meant for the the pop as a whole.
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
<< <i>I just find it strange that by using varieties one places a coin in a high R bracket when >>
I agree......finding a coin where millions were made, but a few errors exist, shouldn't meet the criteria for a R rated coin...
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<< <i>Stone.....rare or not...that's not an attractive coin......Sorry. >>
Attractive or not, I still kinda like it
Me too! Rarity is the turn on for the thread, not looks.
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<< <i>I just find it strange that by using varieties one places a coin in a high R bracket when
i am not quite sure it was designed for that use. was it? >>
I'm also interested in learning what the scale was originally used for.
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<< <i>I just find it strange that by using varieties one places a coin in a high R bracket when >>
I agree......finding a coin where millions were made, but a few errors exist, shouldn't meet the criteria for a R rated coin... >>
R rated variety? Or should the R scale not be used at all for varieties and errors?
Could many errors be R8?
Indeed, that is precisely what the Sheldon rarity scale was designed for. Dr. Sheldon developed his rarity scale to designate the estimated rarity or availability of Large Cents, by variety. Very few United States coins would fall into the R6, R7, or R8 category if taken by date alone, or the entire mintage for that date, particularly for the regular business strike mintage. The Sheldon rarity scale was developed only for early Large Cents, and we often get into trouble when we try to apply it to other series, particularly later nineteenth and twentieth century coins, and especially if we apply it to the entire mintage.
For modern coins, and to designate the estimated rarity of entire mintages (e.g., 1909-S VBD Lincoln Cents, 1916-D Mercury Dimes, etc.) we are better served using the Bowers Universal Rarity Scale (URS).
<< <i>I just find it strange that by using varieties one places a coin in a high R bracket when
i am not quite sure it was designed for that use. was it?
i thought it was meant for the the pop as a whole. >>
No, it was originally set up for large cent die marriages.
The same rarity scale has been adopted within many areas of numismatics.
greg
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#1.
1808/7 CBH without the diecracks. R-7+ or so I've been told...
#2.
1925 peace Dollar VAM 1-B (OBV, die lines over IN) R-6
#3.
1830 Capped Bust Dime JR-1, R-6. Large detached (REV) cud over UNI
166 BHDs & 154 Die Varieties & Die States...
Bust Half Nut Club #180
Festivus Yes! Bagels No!
Here's a Wood's Series Washinton Monument medal in silver, Baker-321. Only 30 of these were struck in 1875 and today Rulau-Fuld estimate that only 5-9 survive, or R.7 on the scale we are using for this thread. The last one to cross the auction block was the Garrett piece. This one will be going to auction in the coming months.
to be talked about since there are a number of errors coins that are unique.
This thread was mostly designed to show off images of coins that are unique, or have low populations for their die state.
BUT, since errors usually come few and far between, including them would be great.
If you have a coin with a known mintage of 30 or less, by all means, post it.
Edited to add: great looking coins so far.
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
O.115, still R8 with only 3 known. Obverse die #12 discovered late 2003, only 196 years after being used to coin what were probably the last draped bust half dollar variety produced before Reich's capped bust design was introduced.
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Here's mine
Reverse only pictures .
Close up of coin 2
Its nice to have the coins ,,too bad they have so little value .
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