1879-O DMPL? Opinions please. UPDATED: CLEANED! (OUCH)
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Please take a look and let me know your thoughts? Would this get PL or DMPL? Worth slabbing?
EDITED TO SAY: I tried to post the pictures, but must have done it wrong. Can someone help, please?
Novice mistake...inadvertenmtly deleted my pictures...
EDITED 4/2/08: Came back from ANACS.... MS60 Details;Cleaned.

EDITED TO SAY: I tried to post the pictures, but must have done it wrong. Can someone help, please?
Novice mistake...inadvertenmtly deleted my pictures...
EDITED 4/2/08: Came back from ANACS.... MS60 Details;Cleaned.


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Need to see that baby in hand.
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It's an O-mint coin, you don't think that's just a weak strike?
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If the coin has original surfaces, it would certainly be worth submitting for certification and grading as it would likely have enough reflectivity to make at least the Prooflike (PL), and probably the Deep Mirror Prooflike (DMPL) designation.
If the coin has altered surfaces the grading service will not certify and grade it. It can be a risky business to purchase raw PL or DMPL Morgan Dollars, and it is a highly risky business to purchase them from digital photographs online.
Stuart
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Hard to tell from the current photos.
It is a tough coin to get with solid mirrors.
We would need a straight on shot to guess a potential grade.
The fields are certainly deep mirrors.
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<< <i>Please take a look and let me know your thoughts? Would this get PL or DMPL? Worth slabbing?
EDITED TO SAY: I tried to post the pictures, but must have done it wrong. Can someone help, please? >>
I doubt it even makes PL from the photos.
I avoid all ebay sellers who claim DMPL coins and use example photos like this. Usually these coins are AU cleaned former PL's and the photos bring in newbies
like wildfire to overbid the coin. You really can't tell DMPL's from photos...you have to see the coin in person.
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for a PL if not a cameo.
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Stuart
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I bought this at a big show last year (on May 5, '07). Paid way too much given the whizzing. Seller was a guy out of Townsend Massachusetts with the initials "RSH". (I have his name, but don't want to post it here.
We've all bought coins that didn't work out, if that helps any.
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Whereas, whizzing causes striations which are BELOW the coin surface, and are typically curved in shape.
Stuart
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<< <i>I say send it in. It may be worth a shot
for a PL if not a cameo. >>
Can't tell 100% from the pics but I would say you have a winner. Git ir graded.
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<< <i>RayBob: For your reference, some PL and even DMPL Morgan Dollars may have some die polish striations which exhibit themselves as RAISED usually straight lines on the coin surface.
Whereas, whizzing causes striations which are BELOW the coin surface, and are typically curved in shape. >>
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Stuart's point is important because the MAJORITY of pl coins have some
very fine dies polish lines. Look inside areas like the letters/date etc. to see if they continue uninterupted (polish) etc.
Actually my concern is more that the cheek has been rubbed with someone's thumb or similar subltle doctoring
to hide abrasions of a 62 and make it look 63+.
PS__IF you missed it, don't worry, I still see dozens of these subltlely altered PL's still in ANACS, NGC and OLD
PCGS holders being dumped at major auctions.
--PSS_ An easy way to learn is see some DMPL/PLs at any of the MANY top specialists tables (ie Legend and the like) at a show.
Then look at 100 or so PLs at an auction preview. You will see the differences, polish lines, etc.
I would try to go to the next show in your area, bring that with you and compare it with other PL coins.
The lines are straignt, not curved, which gives me some hope. I can't tell if they are raised or not. There are a bunch of bag marks on the obverse, and the check is not as nice as the picture shows. The lines are straight, but go in all sorts of different directions, so it does not appear uniform in any way. I have some free grades from ANACS coming as a result of themove debacle. Maybe I'll send it to them for a first pass and see what happens.
Ray
Live and learn. The dealer I bought it from as a gem prooflike was Robert S. Harlow Rare Coins out of Townsend MA. I'll be looking for him again at the PAN show in May. I'll have more than a few choice words for him. He holds himself out as an expert, surely, he can't claim to have been duped. It will be interesting to see what he has to say.
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