Open her up... if thats a 78 or 79 mint set box (my eyes are getting old), the Jefferson in MS66FS would make you some change quick.
Steve
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There won't be many of these in the future but that hardly guarantees that they will have a premium. I really like opening mint set packages but, frankly, 1979 is about my least favorite because the average quality will not differ much from other '79 sets. There are no varieties which show up in this date and nice gems are rare for most of the coins.
It's one of the most common of all the mint sets and only a couple of the coins are desirable in the grades they are likely to appear.
My original intent was to open and submit any gems, now that they are in hand, im not so sure if i should. maybe some ms67 sba's? or halves? or would the sealed box be more valuble in the long run... ahhhhhh, some educated support would be sweet.
<< <i>ahhhhhh, some educated support would be sweet. >>
I gotta tell you since your new... if Cladking is saying something, I'd call that "educated support."
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Proof sets for 79 yes, mint sets no, I have been lucky on some 79 proof sets like this that I have bought finding partial clear "s" sets which have brought a good premium. I have also received several that had the labels removed then re-applied, a regular hair dryer will heat the label up enough to remove it then reseal it using the same method, I have not done that but have found sets that were done this way.
Keep them sealed, the chance of finding any premium coins is low, these were coins that were pulled from regular minting runs and packaged.
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<< <i>Sam/CladKing... where DO you get all this info? >>
I just make it up as I go along.
Of course I've been looking at an awful lot of mint sets while making it up, too.
The mint always used to say that these are merely regular issue coins and imply that they were pulled out of regular mint runs but this is not the case. These coins are made on special presses under higher tonnage with new dies. Sometime the planchets get special attention and the presses usually are slower to allow more time for die fill. The coins are also washed and dried. Mint set coins aren't always the best because they get beaten a lot but they are always among the finest made.
Maybe im missing something as im not a moderns collector, but if it came from SanFran, arent those in fact proof sets rather than mint sets from Philly? Someone please educated me!
Open It. Ever heared of that Bank of America radio commercial where the coins in closet are talking to one another? This new coin rolled in after it fell or something and then he said Where am I? Then the other coins answer him back and since its dark he says Whos that!!!? One by one they answered him and told them their predicament... That one of them has been on the left coat pocket since 78 and the other one is in the dark corner for a number of years and the other one is on one of the old shoe forgotten. Then the new kid coin asked them if they will ever get out and they told him that one of them fell from a pocket one time and rolled out from the closet Never to be heared from again. Then you can hear a vacuum and the kid coin gets sucked out as he shouts and they all told him See Ya Later Kid!!!
How would you feel being Locked Up in that box for 29 Years??? Would you rather look at the box or the coins??? Open It!!!
<< <i>Maybe im missing something as im not a moderns collector, but if it came from SanFran, arent those in fact proof sets rather than mint sets from Philly? Someone please educated me! >>
Look at the postmark. It clearly says PA...(can't read the city)
When you did not receive these in 1979..... did you get a refund, or replacement shipment? If so.... they belong to the U.S. government. Proceed however you see fit; I cannot recommend one way or another.
<< <i>Maybe im missing something as im not a moderns collector, but if it came from SanFran, arent those in fact proof sets rather than mint sets from Philly? Someone please educated me! >>
Look at the postmark. It clearly says PA...(can't read the city) >>
You are correct. Thats weird, because the return address is clearly SanFran. I wonder what thats all about?
<< <i>Maybe im missing something as im not a moderns collector, but if it came from SanFran, arent those in fact proof sets rather than mint sets from Philly? Someone please educated me! >>
Look at the postmark. It clearly says PA...(can't read the city) >>
You are correct. Thats weird, because the return address is clearly SanFran. I wonder what thats all about? >>
maybe sorta like stuff from the mint NOW comes (postmarked) from Memphis?
That was what i said,lol, but it would be "First Day of Issue" and i doubt that pcgs would give me the attribite anyways. >>
They would not even qualify for First Day of Issue as PCGS only designates the Presidential Dollar with this label. Many have tried for the First Day Covers on the State Quarters but it just ain't gonna happen.
From my point of view, I always open the boxes since Mint Sets are never sealed. If I see something I like, it gets cut from the mint set (another one bites the dust) and either Dansco'ed or submitted. Me experience has been that is unusual to find submittable coins in a mint set but not impossible.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
Now cut them out of that plastic and put a cotton glove on. Slip them into a nice Dansco or a Whitman. Complete sets get built this way and they look great.
<< <i>Now cut them out of that plastic and put a cotton glove on. Slip them into a nice Dansco or a Whitman. Complete sets get built this way and they look great. >>
Exactly why Mint Sets in OGP will become a future rarity.
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<< <i> Exactly why Mint Sets in OGP will become a future rarity. >>
This is probably true but the price might not increase for many years since there's no immediate danger of collectors of intact sets outnumbering the population of sealed sets available. It might be best to wait until these are much scarcer and then buy if you want to speculate.
Note though that there is a very small possibility that gem sets could get significant premiums in the nearer future. Between about .1 and 1% of the packets will con- tain all gem coins and this number has been dropping as sets get cherrypicked for gems. Many of these are destroyed so it would take very few intact set collectors to push up the prices for these. The odds of gems sets existing by pure chance is much lower than their incidence for dates before 1980.
Sealed sets mostly get a premium based on the increased chances of finding gems and varieties. This is more significant for the more heavily picked over sets and es- pecially those with varieties like the SMS's, '69, '88 and '70. Gems are common enough in sets that most will get at least a small premium on this basis.
always listen for a ticking noise before opening...
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<< <i>I think you should have left them sealed. >>
I couldnt stop thinking about what may be inside, im pleased with the contents tho, there are some high gade coins, i havent inspected them in detail yet, looks like some FS jeffersons, and some really nice quarters... some high grade roosevelts as well, the SBAs didnt look like much more than some ms66's. and few nice pennys too.
i think i shall pick 1 best of each and submit to pcgs, im collecting pcgs mint sets at the moment.
<< <i> i purchased them from ebay for $60 not such a great deal but i wanted them. >>
So, what your saying is... for $60 your wondering about leaving them sealed? I'll pay you the $60 for all five sets. I put more than that into the lottery.
Edited to add... is the picture of the nickel a P mint or D Mint?
Steve
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In memory of the USAF Security Forces lost: A1C Elizabeth N. Jacobson, 9/28/05; SSgt Brian McElroy, 1/22/06; TSgt Jason Norton, 1/22/06; A1C Lee Chavis, 10/14/06; SSgt John Self, 5/14/07; A1C Jason Nathan, 6/23/07; SSgt Travis Griffin, 4/3/08; 1Lt Joseph Helton, 9/8/09; SrA Nicholas J. Alden, 3/3/2011. God Bless them and all those who have lost loved ones in this war. I will never forget their loss.
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You know there is no first strike on commemoratives right?
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they will have a premium. I really like opening mint set packages but, frankly,
1979 is about my least favorite because the average quality will not differ much
from other '79 sets. There are no varieties which show up in this date and nice
gems are rare for most of the coins.
It's one of the most common of all the mint sets and only a couple of the coins
are desirable in the grades they are likely to appear.
My estimation of how common this is. I'll have to update this one of these days.
Personally I open everything I buy.
<< <i>ahhhhhh, some educated support would be sweet. >>
I gotta tell you since your new... if Cladking is saying something, I'd call that "educated support."
Steve
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You're like the freakin' Nostradamus of Modern Crap.
It's scary. You're encyclopedic.
Hmm... I think "Nostradamus of Modern Crap" has a much nicer ring to it than your "Pretender to the Throne" title.
"Pretender?" Hmph. As far as I'm concerned, you ARE the king of the clad-era stuff.
(Edited to add the appropriate winkie-face.)
Keep them sealed, the chance of finding any premium coins is low, these were coins that were pulled from regular minting runs and packaged.
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<< <i>Sam/CladKing... where DO you get all this info?
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I just make it up as I go along.
Of course I've been looking at an awful lot of mint sets while making it up, too.
The mint always used to say that these are merely regular issue coins and imply
that they were pulled out of regular mint runs but this is not the case. These coins
are made on special presses under higher tonnage with new dies. Sometime the
planchets get special attention and the presses usually are slower to allow more
time for die fill. The coins are also washed and dried. Mint set coins aren't always
the best because they get beaten a lot but they are always among the finest made.
That one of them has been on the left coat pocket since 78 and the other one is in the dark corner for a number of years and the other one is on one of the old shoe forgotten.
Then the new kid coin asked them if they will ever get out and they told him that one of them fell from a pocket one time and rolled out from the closet Never to be heared from again. Then you can hear a vacuum and the kid coin gets sucked out as he shouts and they all told him See Ya Later Kid!!!
How would you feel being Locked Up in that box for 29 Years??? Would you rather look at the box or the coins??? Open It!!!
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<< <i>Maybe im missing something as im not a moderns collector, but if it came from SanFran, arent those in fact proof sets rather than mint sets from Philly? Someone please educated me! >>
Look at the postmark. It clearly says PA...(can't read the city)
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<< <i>Maybe im missing something as im not a moderns collector, but if it came from SanFran, arent those in fact proof sets rather than mint sets from Philly? Someone please educated me! >>
Look at the postmark. It clearly says PA...(can't read the city) >>
You are correct. Thats weird, because the return address is clearly SanFran. I wonder what thats all about?
<< <i>When you did not receive these in 1979..... did you get a refund, or replacement shipment? >>
Actualluy, the are 1 year older than i am. so... i purchased them from ebay for $60 not such a great deal but i wanted them.
<< <i>if so.... they belong to the U.S. government. Proceed however you see fit; I cannot recommend one way or another. >>
lol
<< <i>Send it in for a first strike label! >>
That was what i said,lol, but it would be "First Day of Issue" and i doubt that pcgs would give me the attribite anyways.
<< <i>I vote open it and post some pictures!
What would you do ?
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<< <i>Maybe im missing something as im not a moderns collector, but if it came from SanFran, arent those in fact proof sets rather than mint sets from Philly? Someone please educated me! >>
Look at the postmark. It clearly says PA...(can't read the city) >>
You are correct. Thats weird, because the return address is clearly SanFran. I wonder what thats all about? >>
maybe sorta like stuff from the mint NOW comes (postmarked) from Memphis?
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<< <i>Send it in for a first strike label! >>
That was what i said,lol, but it would be "First Day of Issue" and i doubt that pcgs would give me the attribite anyways. >>
They would not even qualify for First Day of Issue as PCGS only designates the Presidential Dollar with this label. Many have tried for the First Day Covers on the State Quarters but it just ain't gonna happen.
From my point of view, I always open the boxes since Mint Sets are never sealed. If I see something I like, it gets cut from the mint set (another one bites the dust) and either Dansco'ed or submitted. Me experience has been that is unusual to find submittable coins in a mint set but not impossible.
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<< <i>Now cut them out of that plastic and put a cotton glove on. Slip them into a nice Dansco or a Whitman. Complete sets get built this way and they look great. >>
Exactly why Mint Sets in OGP will become a future rarity.
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Exactly why Mint Sets in OGP will become a future rarity. >>
This is probably true but the price might not increase for many years since there's
no immediate danger of collectors of intact sets outnumbering the population of
sealed sets available. It might be best to wait until these are much scarcer and
then buy if you want to speculate.
Note though that there is a very small possibility that gem sets could get significant
premiums in the nearer future. Between about .1 and 1% of the packets will con-
tain all gem coins and this number has been dropping as sets get cherrypicked for
gems. Many of these are destroyed so it would take very few intact set collectors
to push up the prices for these. The odds of gems sets existing by pure chance is
much lower than their incidence for dates before 1980.
Sealed sets mostly get a premium based on the increased chances of finding gems
and varieties. This is more significant for the more heavily picked over sets and es-
pecially those with varieties like the SMS's, '69, '88 and '70. Gems are common enough
in sets that most will get at least a small premium on this basis.
<< <i>The address on the box says San Fran. I would guess these are proof sets, and not mint sets. >>
They were still being shipped from San Francisco at least as late as 1981.
always listen for a ticking noise before opening...
<< <i>I think you should have left them sealed.
I couldnt stop thinking about what may be inside, im pleased with the contents tho, there are some high gade coins, i havent inspected them in detail yet, looks like some FS jeffersons, and some really nice quarters... some high grade roosevelts as well, the SBAs didnt look like much more than some ms66's. and few nice pennys too.
i think i shall pick 1 best of each and submit to pcgs, im collecting pcgs mint sets at the moment.
<< <i> i purchased them from ebay for $60 not such a great deal but i wanted them. >>
So, what your saying is... for $60 your wondering about leaving them sealed? I'll pay you the $60 for all five sets. I put more than that into the lottery.
Edited to add... is the picture of the nickel a P mint or D Mint?
Steve
In memory of the USAF Security Forces lost: A1C Elizabeth N. Jacobson, 9/28/05; SSgt Brian McElroy, 1/22/06; TSgt Jason Norton, 1/22/06; A1C Lee Chavis, 10/14/06; SSgt John Self, 5/14/07; A1C Jason Nathan, 6/23/07; SSgt Travis Griffin, 4/3/08; 1Lt Joseph Helton, 9/8/09; SrA Nicholas J. Alden, 3/3/2011. God Bless them and all those who have lost loved ones in this war. I will never forget their loss.
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<< <i>is the picture of the nickel a P mint or D Mint? Steve >>
D mint.