<< <i>He made an offer to purchase. You did not accept. No contract. Just like when you go to BestBuy with their ad in hand and demand that they sell you the 42" Flat Screen for $1.200 that is not in stock, cuz its in the ad. The ad, or in your case, the listing, is an invitation intended to solicit offers, not an offer itself, therefor, his statement does not constitute acceptance, but rather a mere offer. >>
Here we go again.
But the question is, is the Best Buy ad for $1200 in fact an offer to sell provided that they have it available?
<< <i>But the question is, is the Best Buy ad for $1200 in fact an offer to sell provided that they have it available? >>
We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. An advertisement isn't a contract, even if they had the item in stock. The implied contract only arises after money and merchandise exchange hands.
<< <i>But the question is, is the Best Buy ad for $1200 in fact an offer to sell provided that they have it available? >>
We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. An advertisement isn't a contract, even if they had the item in stock. The implied contract only arises after money and merchandise exchange hands. >>
I'm sure there will be those who disagree with your assessment, Ziggy. My opinion is that there needs to be a valid reason to refuse service, and not wearing the correct colored shirt is not a valid reason.
If someone offers a specific coin for a specific price and then someone else accepts that offer, is that considered a done deal? Isn't that what happened here?
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<< <i>I'm sure there will be those who disagree with your assessment, Ziggy. My opinion is that there needs to be a valid reason to refuse service, and not wearing the correct colored shirt is not a valid reason. >>
The only time the reason is legally "invalidated" is if the reason for refusal is because you're discriminating against someone based on membership in a protected class; i.e. race, religion, gender, et cetera. As long as the reason for the refusal is not on these grounds, the merchant is free to refuse anyone -- though as a rule they will not exercise it.
I have to reply just because I read through all of the posts so far....
I've been on both sides of this issue. I've been "lucky" because most people are reasonable even in their dissapointment over not getting what they want. But if I had a coin for sale on the BST, I would not be afraid to do business with James. Some of my best customers in various businesses might be classisifed as difficult or demanding by most people, but their checks always cleared. I've made plenty of mistakes and all I can do to remedy the situation is apologize.
Companies like Best Buy will provide rainchecks or offer discounts on other models to provide good customer service. They may not be legally obligated to do this, but they want your repeat business so breaking even or even selling something at a loss will keep you coming back.
I like the BST. I've only used it a few times but everyone that I have dealt with has been great.
I'd keep playing. I don't think the heavy stuff will be coming down for quite a while!
<< <i>If someone offers a specific coin for a specific price and then someone else accepts that offer, is that considered a done deal? Isn't that what happened here? >>
It's a done deal only if the specific coin is still for sale. If the seller has since sold the coin to another buyer OR the seller has since decided not to sell, then the deal never happened. The seller had decided against selling the coin before he knew an offer to buy was in place.
<< <i>If someone offers a specific coin for a specific price and then someone else accepts that offer, is that considered a done deal? Isn't that what happened here? >>
It's a done deal only if the specific coin is still for sale. If the seller has since sold the coin to another buyer OR the seller has since decided not to sell, then the deal never happened. The seller had decided against selling the coin before he knew an offer to buy was in place. >>
We all know that.
The confusion concerns the situation if the coin was still for sale at the time a purchase offer was made.
<< <i>"Just because they made you an offer doesn't mean you are committed to sell."
Last comment from me.... The above statement, while surely well-intended, is not correct. If you make an offer, do not retract the offer prior to acceptance and the offer is accepted you have a contract.
And, no, the OP did not offer the courtesy of asking if I was cool with her posting what I assumed to be PM's. >>
So let's put the shoe on the other foot. What if you agreed via PM to buy the coin, and then changed your mind. Should the seller be able to sue you for agreeing to buy the coin and then backing out. I would think not. It's just a coin.........get over it.
JJ
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In this case (which is the only case that matters) it was not. >>
So a coin being offered for sale on the BST forum is not for sale? Now I'm really getting confused.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
per the OP's responses to the thread, the offer was never accepted so there is no implied contract so get over yourself!
it doesn't matter what story the OP offered for not selling the coin, since she never accepted the offer it's none of your friggin' business as to why she doesn't want to sell you the coin. the only thing that you need to know is that she doesn't want to sell you the coin - at that point, you drop it and move on - you don't threaten her with stupid shenanigans like you did!
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What I meant to say was what would happen if the coin were still for sale when james made his purchase request.
Then I assume he would have been able to purchase it. And the seller would/could have told the owner it was already sold. I can't speak for the seller though.
<< <i>What I meant to say was that what would happen if the coin were still for sale when james made his purchase request. >>
Well, that's not what happened here, as far as I can tell, but beyond that -- is there some contractual expectation to sell to the first person to inquire? I know we usually have a first-come-first-served mentality and it usually works well, but is that the ONLY legitimate way to sell something?
What if I said something was for sale at "$200 or best offer," and one person PM'd and said "I'll take it for $200." Before you could accept the offer, another PM comes in and says "I'll take it for up to $225 if someone else has already offered $200."
In this case, "best offer" is $225, not $200. Would I be obligated to sell at $200 to the first person to inquire? Would I be obligated to sell to the "best offer" of $225?
Obviously, if I told the first person I was selling to them for $200 and gave them payment information, future higher offers have to be rejected because it's "sold."
it doesn't matter what story the OP offered for not selling the coin, since she never accepted the offer it's none of your friggin' business as to why she doesn't want to sell you the coin. the only thing that you need to know is that she doesn't want to sell you the coin - at that point, you drop it and move on - you don't threaten her with stupid shenanigans like you did!
<< <i>it doesn't matter what story the OP offered for not selling the coin, since she never accepted the offer it's none of your friggin' business as to why she doesn't want to sell you the coin. the only thing that you need to know is that she doesn't want to sell you the coin - at that point, you drop it and move on - you don't threaten her with stupid shenanigans like you did! >>
Indeed. If I were the OP, if the jilted buyer had been civil, they would be given "right of first refusal" if the owner of the coin changed their mind (again) and wanted me to sell it after all.
But when they start acting belligerent, threatening and abusive, any chances of them getting right of first refusal should the coin become available again drop to zero.
Though I admittedly weighed in earlier on this, it does appear that the "horse" has been beaten to death, subsequently mutilated and is in a gluish state at present.
If the seller did not contact the buyer telling them that the coin is still available and that they will accept their offer then there is no deal much less any type of oral or written contract. Telling someone that you want to buy an item they offer for sale does not mean a thing until the sellers confirms receipt and acceptance of the offer which obviously did not happen here.
<< <i>per the OP's responses to the thread, the offer was never accepted so there is no implied contract so get over yourself! >>
You're got it backwards. The offer was made by the seller when she put the coin on the BST and quoted a price. The offer was accepted by the buyer at that price. Don't get me wrong---if the seller doesn't want to go through with the deal, it's not worth fighting over---it's just time to move on to the next deal.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Legally, the coin should have been sold, I think. But this was a case where other circumstances came up, and the coin was no longer available. It should have ended right there with no sale. With no threats being made. That's why lawyers suck. They are not part of the normal world. By the way, I have the Krause World coin book back in stock and will be listing on the BST forum. I promise I can deliver, until I run out. Steve
<< <i>Legally, the coin should have been sold, I think. >>
Show us the law that says a seller is required to complete a transaction based simply on the act of posting the item but without accepting an offer from a buyer.
<< <i>Legally, the coin should have been sold, I think. But this was a case where other circumstances came up, and the coin was no longer available. It should have ended right there with no sale. With no threats being made. That's why lawyers suck. They are not part of the normal world. By the way, I have the Krause World coin book back in stock and will be listing on the BST forum. I promise I can deliver, until I run out. Steve >>
OK, ethically the coin should have been sold. Granted, it wasn't for sale because of unforseen circumstances. I don't agree with the buyer. He's a jerk. But. I'm so tired of people taking the legal issues so far. How about ethics. The coin was offered. Someone said yes. Shouldn't it end there. Legally, legally, legally. baloney. Again, lawyers suck. Look at Congress and the Senate. Almost all lawyers. With an approval rating of %11. That says it all. Steve
<< <i>OK, ethically the coin should have been sold. >>
The seller was also under no ethical obligation to complete the transaction. In fact, there are circumstances when it could be considered unethical to do so. For example, knowingly selling a coin while being aware that the buyer is purchasing it for nefarious purposes.
just stay to the facts of this case. Not made up stuff. If the original owner did not want the coin back, I think the seller was ethically obligated to sell the coin at the price agreed on. Of course he could have sellers remorse and I don't think the buyer should force the issue. But the terms seem to have been met. Steve
<< <i>I think the seller was ethically obligated to sell the coin at the price agreed on. >>
There was no agreed upon price. Only an offering price. The price does not become agreed upon until the seller says yes to the transaction. Thus, ethics is not even an issue.
Lets put it this way, suppose the seller stood to make alot of money if she sold it. Once the owner told the seller not to sell the coin, the seller would be ethically bound not to sell.
And had she did in fact complete the deal and the Owner came on here we would all be debating that.
Why is this still being debated. The seller offered coin on BST (non-binding) , a pontential buyer posted interest and never paid for the coin. The seller informed buyer coin no longer for sale.
Thus no transaction was completed end of story!
If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around. Am I still wrong?
<< <i>I guess to me, I'll take the bust half, is paypal OK. kind of closes the deal. What else is there to discuss? >>
How about starting with "Is this item still available?" Rather than assuming it MUST be still available because the item is still listed on BST?
Optionally, after that you could add, "If so, I'll take it. Please forward payment instructions." If the seller responds affirmatively, THEN ethically it's a deal. Not until.
Until the seller indicates the item is still for sale, there IS no sale. People can't always instantaneously remove something from BST (or anywhere else) the instant it's no longer for sale. They should do so as soon as reasonably possible, but it doesn't happen instantly.
It seems to me the seller has a right to change his or her mind for so long as he or she possesses the coin. Until the seller physically accepts money from the buyer, the transaction can be nulllified.
<< <i>just stay to the facts of this case. Not made up stuff. If the original owner did not want the coin back, I think the seller was ethically obligated to sell the coin at the price agreed on. Of course he could have sellers remorse and I don't think the buyer should force the issue. But the terms seem to have been met. Steve >>
No. As I mentioned in an earlier post, if I offer something on the BST, there are some buyers I will NOT sell to. I am not going to point them out in any sales posting I do, however. So, if I list "For sale: $xxx" and one of them replies "I'll take it for $xxx, tell me where to send the money", the sale will NOT happen. Is it unethical? I don't think so but you might.
Also, even if selling something for someone else, if you have it in your possession to sell for them, there is no need, imho, to state "I am selling this for someone else". It really isn't anyone's business as long as you have full permission to sell it and have it inhand. Sure, it's a nice thing to do, but isn't necessary.
I believe a lot of folks think by putting "PM sent" in a BST listing that it marks their spot. (Kinda like a dog hiking his leg) I've had someone get tough with me in PM because they marked their spot with "PM sent." I said I would get back with them after I answered the other PM's that they didn't mark their spot in the thread. Potential buyer insisted they were first because they said PM sent. Notice....... It don't matter if you say PM sent in the thread. Also, I guess some do it to give the impression to back off. Which IMO is hilarious. Me thinks some folks take this stuff much too serious.
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<< <i>I believe a lot of folks think by putting "PM sent" in a BST listing that it marks their spot. (Kinda like a dog hiking his leg) I've had someone get tough with me in PM because they marked their spot with "PM sent." I said I would get back with them after I answered the other PM's that they didn't mark their spot in the thread. Potential buyer insisted they were first because they said PM sent. Notice....... It don't matter if you say PM sent in the thread. Also, I guess some do it to give the impression to back off. Which IMO is hilarious. Me thinks some folks take this stuff much too serious. >>
That's a good point, after a dozen transactions only one person said PM sent. I was assuming that was so I would get an e-mail on the thread so I would come see if there were any new PM's.
<< <i>That's a good point, after a dozen transactions only one person said PM sent. I was assuming that was so I would get an e-mail on the thread so I would come see if there were any new PM's. >>
Yes, that can work good as well.
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My take on this.... was the offer was never accepted or confirmed by you. You did list a coin to sell, a potential buyer stated he/she wanted it, and asked about the payment method. However, you never said it is yours or confirmed the sale and payment was never made. So this buyer has no recourse. And sounds like a sore loser.
How about this situation..... which just happened to me. I listed 2 coins for sale the the B/S/T forum, and I received 2 PM's within 10 minutes of each other. I responded to the first one, and he bought the coins, and paid via Paypal. So it was "offically" sold. I then PM'd the other members and stated that it had sold to the first person who sent a PM. Now, do you think I am also responsible to sell to the second person who sent me a PM, just because I didn't state certain "conditions" in my posting? Heck no - this isn't eBay, but a convience for us to use the B/S/T forum. There is no "Binding Agreement" that tells us how to list items for sale.
I do my best to deliver on my word. I think any good business person has this same philosophy. Why burn a bridge when you might have to cross it again ?
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<< <i>He made an offer to purchase. You did not accept. No contract. Just like when you go to BestBuy with their ad in hand and demand that they sell you the 42" Flat Screen for $1.200 that is not in stock, cuz its in the ad. The ad, or in your case, the listing, is an invitation intended to solicit offers, not an offer itself, therefor, his statement does not constitute acceptance, but rather a mere offer. >>
Here we go again.
But the question is, is the Best Buy ad for $1200 in fact an offer to sell provided that they have it available?
<< <i>But the question is, is the Best Buy ad for $1200 in fact an offer to sell provided that they have it available? >>
We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. An advertisement isn't a contract, even if they had the item in stock. The implied contract only arises after money and merchandise exchange hands.
<< <i>
<< <i>But the question is, is the Best Buy ad for $1200 in fact an offer to sell provided that they have it available? >>
We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. An advertisement isn't a contract, even if they had the item in stock. The implied contract only arises after money and merchandise exchange hands. >>
I'm sure there will be those who disagree with your assessment, Ziggy. My opinion is that there needs to be a valid reason to refuse service, and not wearing the correct colored shirt is not a valid reason.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>I'm sure there will be those who disagree with your assessment, Ziggy. My opinion is that there needs to be a valid reason to refuse service, and not wearing the correct colored shirt is not a valid reason. >>
The only time the reason is legally "invalidated" is if the reason for refusal is because you're discriminating against someone based on membership in a protected class; i.e. race, religion, gender, et cetera. As long as the reason for the refusal is not on these grounds, the merchant is free to refuse anyone -- though as a rule they will not exercise it.
I've been on both sides of this issue. I've been "lucky" because most people are reasonable even in their dissapointment over not getting what they want. But if I had a coin for sale on the BST, I would not be afraid to do business with James. Some of my best customers in various businesses might be classisifed as difficult or demanding by most people, but their checks always cleared. I've made plenty of mistakes and all I can do to remedy the situation is apologize.
Companies like Best Buy will provide rainchecks or offer discounts on other models to provide good customer service. They may not be legally obligated to do this, but they want your repeat business so breaking even or even selling something at a loss will keep you coming back.
I like the BST. I've only used it a few times but everyone that I have dealt with has been great.
<< <i>If someone offers a specific coin for a specific price and then someone else accepts that offer, is that considered a done deal? Isn't that what happened here?
It's a done deal only if the specific coin is still for sale. If the seller has since sold the coin to another buyer OR the seller has since decided not to sell, then the deal never happened. The seller had decided against selling the coin before he knew an offer to buy was in place.
<< <i>
<< <i>If someone offers a specific coin for a specific price and then someone else accepts that offer, is that considered a done deal? Isn't that what happened here?
It's a done deal only if the specific coin is still for sale. If the seller has since sold the coin to another buyer OR the seller has since decided not to sell, then the deal never happened. The seller had decided against selling the coin before he knew an offer to buy was in place. >>
We all know that.
The confusion concerns the situation if the coin was still for sale at the time a purchase offer was made.
(Edited for clarification).
The coin is either for sale , or not.
In this case (which is the only case that matters) it was not.
Steve
<< <i>"Just because they made you an offer doesn't mean you are committed to sell."
Last comment from me.... The above statement, while surely well-intended, is not correct. If you make an offer, do not retract the offer prior to acceptance and the offer is accepted you have a contract.
And, no, the OP did not offer the courtesy of asking if I was cool with her posting what I assumed to be PM's. >>
So let's put the shoe on the other foot. What if you agreed via PM to buy the coin, and then changed your mind. Should the seller be able to sue you for agreeing to buy the coin and then backing out. I would think not. It's just a coin.........get over it.
JJ
<< <i>Mike
The coin is either for sale , or not.
In this case (which is the only case that matters) it was not.
Steve >>
What I meant to say was what would happen if the coin were still for sale when james made his purchase request.
<< <i>The coin is either for sale , or not.
In this case (which is the only case that matters) it was not. >>
So a coin being offered for sale on the BST forum is not for sale? Now I'm really getting confused.
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"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
it doesn't matter what story the OP offered for not selling the coin, since she never accepted the offer it's none of your friggin' business as to why she doesn't want to sell you the coin. the only thing that you need to know is that she doesn't want to sell you the coin - at that point, you drop it and move on - you don't threaten her with stupid shenanigans like you did!
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So a coin being offered for sale on the BST forum is not for sale? Now I'm really getting confused
Not that specific one at that specific time.
Steve
Then I assume he would have been able to purchase it. And the seller would/could have told the owner it was already sold. I can't speak for the seller though.
Steve
<< <i>What I meant to say was that what would happen if the coin were still for sale when james made his purchase request. >>
Well, that's not what happened here, as far as I can tell, but beyond that -- is there some contractual expectation to sell to the first person to inquire? I know we usually have a first-come-first-served mentality and it usually works well, but is that the ONLY legitimate way to sell something?
What if I said something was for sale at "$200 or best offer," and one person PM'd and said "I'll take it for $200." Before you could accept the offer, another PM comes in and says "I'll take it for up to $225 if someone else has already offered $200."
In this case, "best offer" is $225, not $200. Would I be obligated to sell at $200 to the first person to inquire? Would I be obligated to sell to the "best offer" of $225?
Obviously, if I told the first person I was selling to them for $200 and gave them payment information, future higher offers have to be rejected because it's "sold."
Exactly.
'a more earnest answer' lol
Steve
<< <i>it doesn't matter what story the OP offered for not selling the coin, since she never accepted the offer it's none of your friggin' business as to why she doesn't want to sell you the coin. the only thing that you need to know is that she doesn't want to sell you the coin - at that point, you drop it and move on - you don't threaten her with stupid shenanigans like you did! >>
Indeed. If I were the OP, if the jilted buyer had been civil, they would be given "right of first refusal" if the owner of the coin changed their mind (again) and wanted me to sell it after all.
But when they start acting belligerent, threatening and abusive, any chances of them getting right of first refusal should the coin become available again drop to zero.
Sticky stuff and I suggest we all leave it be.
Steve
<< <i>per the OP's responses to the thread, the offer was never accepted so there is no implied contract so get over yourself! >>
You're got it backwards. The offer was made by the seller when she put the coin on the BST and quoted a price. The offer was accepted by the buyer at that price. Don't get me wrong---if the seller doesn't want to go through with the deal, it's not worth fighting over---it's just time to move on to the next deal.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
PM: I'll take it.
PM back: Sorry, no longer for sale.
No deal, no obligation.
Russ, NCNE
By the way, I have the Krause World coin book back in stock and will be listing on the BST forum. I promise I can deliver, until I run out.
Steve
<< <i>Legally, the coin should have been sold, I think. >>
Show us the law that says a seller is required to complete a transaction based simply on the act of posting the item but without accepting an offer from a buyer.
Russ, NCNE
Steve
<< <i>Legally, the coin should have been sold, I think. But this was a case where other circumstances came up, and the coin was no longer available. It should have ended right there with no sale. With no threats being made. That's why lawyers suck. They are not part of the normal world.
By the way, I have the Krause World coin book back in stock and will be listing on the BST forum. I promise I can deliver, until I run out.
Steve >>
Legally?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
WTF? are you even remotely serious?
<< <i>OK, ethically the coin should have been sold. >>
The seller was also under no ethical obligation to complete the transaction. In fact, there are circumstances when it could be considered unethical to do so. For example, knowingly selling a coin while being aware that the buyer is purchasing it for nefarious purposes.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>I think the seller was ethically obligated to sell the coin at the price agreed on. >>
There was no agreed upon price. Only an offering price. The price does not become agreed upon until the seller says yes to the transaction. Thus, ethics is not even an issue.
Russ, NCNE
Steve
if she sold it. Once the owner told the seller not to sell the coin, the seller
would be ethically bound not to sell.
And had she did in fact complete the deal and the Owner came on here
we would all be debating that.
Steve
Thus no transaction was completed end of story!
oh i dunno, how about the simple fact that the coin was already sold, lost, eaten by the dog,
no longer for sale, and on and on.
I would think those scenarios would be worth discussing.
Steve
<< <i>I guess to me, I'll take the bust half, is paypal OK. kind of closes the deal. What else is there to discuss? >>
How about starting with "Is this item still available?" Rather than assuming it MUST be still available because the item is still listed on BST?
Optionally, after that you could add, "If so, I'll take it. Please forward payment instructions." If the seller responds affirmatively, THEN ethically it's a deal. Not until.
Until the seller indicates the item is still for sale, there IS no sale. People can't always instantaneously remove something from BST (or anywhere else) the instant it's no longer for sale. They should do so as soon as reasonably possible, but it doesn't happen instantly.
It seems to me the seller has a right to change his or her mind for so long as he or she possesses the coin. Until the seller physically accepts money from the buyer, the transaction can be nulllified.
<< <i>I guess to me, I'll take the bust half, is paypal OK. kind of closes the deal. What else is there to discuss?
Steve >>
<< <i>just stay to the facts of this case. Not made up stuff. If the original owner did not want the coin back, I think the seller was ethically obligated to sell the coin at the price agreed on. Of course he could have sellers remorse and I don't think the buyer should force the issue. But the terms seem to have been met. Steve >>
No. As I mentioned in an earlier post, if I offer something on the BST, there are some buyers I will NOT sell to. I am not going to point them out in any sales posting I do, however. So, if I list "For sale: $xxx" and one of them replies "I'll take it for $xxx, tell me where to send the money", the sale will NOT happen.
Is it unethical? I don't think so but you might.
Also, even if selling something for someone else, if you have it in your possession to sell for them, there is no need, imho, to state "I am selling this for someone else". It really isn't anyone's business as long as you have full permission to sell it and have it inhand. Sure, it's a nice thing to do, but isn't necessary.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>I guess to me, I'll take the bust half, is paypal OK. kind of closes the deal. What else is there to discuss?
Steve >>
So, when 5 people send this PM, how do you handle it? This should be interesting since you think all should receive the item.
insisted they were first because they said PM sent. Notice....... It don't matter if you say PM sent in the thread. Also, I guess some do it to give the impression to back off.
Which IMO is hilarious. Me thinks some folks take this stuff much too serious.
<< <i>I believe a lot of folks think by putting "PM sent" in a BST listing that it marks their spot. (Kinda like a dog hiking his leg) I've had someone get tough with me in PM because they marked their spot with "PM sent." I said I would get back with them after I answered the other PM's that they didn't mark their spot in the thread. Potential buyer
insisted they were first because they said PM sent. Notice....... It don't matter if you say PM sent in the thread. Also, I guess some do it to give the impression to back off.
Which IMO is hilarious. Me thinks some folks take this stuff much too serious. >>
That's a good point, after a dozen transactions only one person said PM sent. I was assuming that was so I would get an e-mail on the thread so I would come see if there were any new PM's.
<< <i>That's a good point, after a dozen transactions only one person said PM sent. I was assuming that was so I would get an e-mail on the thread so I would come see if there were any new PM's. >>
Yes, that can work good as well.
How about this situation..... which just happened to me. I listed 2 coins for sale the the B/S/T forum, and I received 2 PM's within 10 minutes of each other. I responded to the first one, and he bought the coins, and paid via Paypal. So it was "offically" sold. I then PM'd the other members and stated that it had sold to the first person who sent a PM. Now, do you think I am also responsible to sell to the second person who sent me a PM, just because I didn't state certain "conditions" in my posting? Heck no - this isn't eBay, but a convience for us to use the B/S/T forum. There is no "Binding Agreement" that tells us how to list items for sale.
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