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I have never dipped a coin in anything other than acetone...

AskRaqAskRaq Posts: 2,303
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Can someone tell me what the difference is between "eZest" & "MS70"? Are they both detergents? Are they used for the same purpose, or are they two different types of products? Thanks ~

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  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    Dipping in acetone? Only good for removing pvc contamination.

    MS70 is a super soap. Swab the surfaces with a Q-Tip and rinse. Removes grime, haze & some color.

    eZest & Jewelluster are acids. Dip & rinse or spot swab and rinse. Removes toning and strips the surfaces.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,625 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No touchee on the last two if the coin is bronze or copper-nickel. Please rinse off after (hey that sounds kind of like something else!) as the residual should not be left on the coin.
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  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭


    << <i>...as the residual should not be left on the coin. >>



    I've made the mistake of not washing my coins well enough...

    lesson learned!
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After dipping, rinse briefly in baking soda and warm water, then DI warm water, then blow dry... Neutralizing the dip is extremely important. As is rinsing it completely. Cheers, RickO
  • AskRaqAskRaq Posts: 2,303
    So, eZest is, essentially, a typical silver "cleaner" type dip like you would use for jewelry? MS70 is for removing junk & grime that acetone doesn't remove... and can be used on copper & nickel coins?
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS70 is known to tone copper bluish.....just look up threads here or go to the NGC boards and read some recent (and past) threads.....very "fun" reading image

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  • AskRaqAskRaq Posts: 2,303


    << <i>MS70 is known to tone copper bluish.....just look up threads here or go to the NGC boards and read some recent (and past) threads.....very "fun" reading image >>




    Is there anything that doesn't?? I had that problem when I just used a little Dawn dishwashing liquid & warm water too..... but it only seemed to tone the worn areas?? Ended up with a very funky IHC.
  • toreador74toreador74 Posts: 201 ✭✭
    What about xylol/xylene? I've heard that can be used on copper but have no idea where it can be purchased.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    if used properly and rinsed thoroughly.........................

    MS70=bad.
    E-Z-Est=good.

    i have used E-Z-Est successfully on silver, nickel, clad and copper with good results. though i have admittedly never used MS70, i have heard enough about the results and watched others use it enough times to realize there are better products which give superior results. i would never suggest anyone use it on anything.
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What about xylol/xylene? I've heard that can be used on copper but have no idea where it can be purchased. >>



    Xylene [pronounced zylene] would not be expected to have anything other than a degreasing effect on coins. In that respect its probably a bit safer than acetone for use on copper, since it is a hydrocarbon and not oxygenated like acetone is. Charcoal starter fluid would likely work as well.
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  • a039a039 Posts: 1,546 ✭
    MS70 is much stronger than soap and burns my fingers.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Which one has the thiourea in it?
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MS70 is much stronger than soap and burns my fingers. >>



    I've never used MS70 but I have heard one should wear gloves when dealing with any of these things....

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone have any bottles of these dips handy with an ingredient list on the bottle??
    theknowitalltroll;
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thiourea is the active ingredient in E-Z-Est and is listed by the state of California as a possible carcinogen.
  • vplitevplite Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭
    Don't be a chump. Don't dip. Leave it natural.
    The Golden Rule: Those with the gold make the rules.
  • a039a039 Posts: 1,546 ✭


    << <i>Don't be a chump. Don't dip. Leave it natural. >>



    Most people would disagree, some coins NEED a dip.
  • seatedcoinsseatedcoins Posts: 1,096 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Don't be a chump. Don't dip. Leave it natural. >>



    Most people would disagree, some coins NEED a dip. >>



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  • seatedcoinsseatedcoins Posts: 1,096 ✭


    << <i>What will remove verdigris from copper?

    MS70 is said to turn copper blue, can it also turn copper red also, ie both colors appearing on the same coin?
    And does MS70 leave a coin looking wet, is that how you can tell?
    And is MS70 also used to remove verdigris? >>



    White vinegar and salt solution for 30-45 minutes. It will also remove toning. If the verdigris is being difficult swish the liquid around a little.
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  • AskRaqAskRaq Posts: 2,303


    << <i>Where does Blue Ribbon enter the discussion? >>



    Yeah, what type of product is Blue Ribbon?
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When it comes to coins :

    No experiments are good experiments.
  • MokiMoki Posts: 259


    << <i>What about xylol/xylene? I've heard that can be used on copper but have no idea where it can be purchased. >>


    My personal experience with xylene was a bit of disaster--it left some coins pitted. I would not use it again.
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Anyone have any bottles of these dips handy with an ingredient list on the bottle?? >>



    Just took a look at the MS70 bottle. There are no ingredients listed.
    Becky
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    WD-40 is amazing on green copper. Cleans off the green, and doesn't turn your copper pink.
    Becky

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