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Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I found this in an item description on EBay:

We Charge a $3.75 Handling Charge to cover the cost of Packing Materials, as well as Delivery Confirmation, which is required by PayPal on ALL Items shipped by the Seller. If this is Unacceptable, DO NOT BID! We DO NOT combine Shipping. However, we will waive 50% of the Handling fee on Multiple Items Shipped.


The seller has a 288 feedback and a 100% rating.
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "The seller has a 288 feedback and a 100% rating."

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    Not for long.



    The seller's nonsense violates both EBAY and PayPal TOS.
    The listings will be removed, if they are reported.



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    Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BTW, they are also charging shipping of $12 for a hobby box of 2003 Topps Heritage. (hint)
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    cwazzycwazzy Posts: 3,257 ✭
    Why would this not be allowed? He isn't charging for PayPal fees, just the cost for covering packing material and delivery confirmation. Is this against the rules?

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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "Why would this not be allowed? He isn't charging for PayPal fees, just the cost for
    covering packing material and delivery confirmation. Is this against the rules?'

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    The $3.75 would be determined "unreasonable" by EBAY.

    The seller's comment about Delivery Confirmation misstates
    PayPal's policy, in an effort to justify an unreasonable fee.


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    F1ferrariF1ferrari Posts: 583
    I sent him a question, asking if the $3.75 is included in the $12 Shipping and Handling fee, or if it is separate, and if they are 2 different fees, why isn't that mentioned in that part of the auction. We'll see if he answers.
    2001-2014 Topps Heritage complete!
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    swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭


    The $3.75 would be determined "unreasonable" by EBAY.


    I would like to know where the "unreasonable" line is drawn

    $3.50 isnt terribly outrageous...


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    F1ferrariF1ferrari Posts: 583
    I received an answer back:


    << <i>
    No,
    The total fee is 12.00. That is for Shipping via USPS priority mail, and includes the charge for packing materials and handling, and delivery confirmation. Sorry for the confusion.
    Thanks

    - uszussh2 >>



    So the total fee for shipping is $12, and that includes everything else. That's not too bad to ship a box of cards.
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    dizzledizzle Posts: 1,051


    << <i>"Why would this not be allowed? He isn't charging for PayPal fees, just the cost for
    covering packing material and delivery confirmation. Is this against the rules?'

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    The $3.75 would be determined "unreasonable" by EBAY.

    The seller's comment about Delivery Confirmation misstates
    PayPal's policy, in an effort to justify an unreasonable fee.


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    EBAY...... NEG Victoriously ! image >>



    If shipping through paypal delivery confirmation is required you have no choice.
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    larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭✭
    (hint)

    Why hint? If you want to call the guy out post a link and then if you really still give a crap about some idiot on Ebay then YOU should report him. Don't hint about this trivial thing just DO IT!
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    LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    Anything under 4.00 is not unreasonable for a card.. I don't think Ebay would see that as unreasonable. There was a card seller a year or so ago who was selling everything at 1 cent BIN and what he wanted for the card as shipping. I remmeber reporting one that was .01 Plus a 99.99 S/H Ebay said it was not unreasonable. I gave up reporting sellers for high shipping.

    If the shipping is listed in the auction figure it into your max bid otherwise do not bid. How hard is that?
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "We Charge a $3.75 Handling Charge to cover the cost of Packing Materials, as well as Delivery Confirmation..."

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    The "handling charge" appears to be in ADDITION to the "shipping charge." Total Charge $12.00.

    The PayPal DC fee is about 25-cents.

    I never report S&H overcharges. EBAY takes little/no action on the subject.
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    iamthegreatcornholioiamthegreatcornholio Posts: 3,366
    For you guys that get your panties wadded up over this, do you report this because

    a. you don't want to pay that much for s/h
    b. ebay isn't getting final value fees for the "excessive" s/h

    If it's the former, simply adjust your bid to compensate (you may need to count on fingers and toes). If it's the latter, your life must be really dull.
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    larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭✭
    Cornholio said it better than me but I agree with him. Thanks corn.
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    mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,342 ✭✭✭
    Anyone been to the post office lately? To ship one graded card in a bubble mailer with delivery confirmation, it's $2.20. That doesnt count the cost of the mailer. Jesus guys, if you dont want to pay that much...DONT FREAKIN BID. Amazing how many crybabies will pay $200 for apiece of cardboard then B---- about the cost to ship it. Unreal
    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "To ship one graded card in a bubble mailer with delivery confirmation, it's $2.20."

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    AND, that is with NO insurance.
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    LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Random Hump Bump

    Ah, the good ole days, back when $3.75 was outrageous to ship a card.

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    NGS428NGS428 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was like, $2.20 to ship.. What!! Then I saw 2008...

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    mrmoparmrmopar Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭✭

    @NGS428 said:
    I was like, $2.20 to ship.. What!! Then I saw 2008...

    I was thinking the same thing and didn't thick to check the date! I think retail, you can't get under $4 now for a card in a padded mailer. If you ship thru ebay, it's cheaper, but still $3+ just for postage.

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    mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,342 ✭✭✭

    I'd take the $2.20 shipping again

    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,532 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whatever happened to storm888?



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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    don't forget it costs money to drive to the post office also. if it's free shipping or 12 dollars, it's all a wash anyway, people consider shipping costs in their max bid as well as state tax

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    DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭

    @grote15 said:
    Whatever happened to storm888?

    That is what I was wondering. He was an asset to the Forum, and a good human being.

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