Saying Goodbye to PCI
braddick
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Although it can be argued PCI got it wrong more than they got it right, they have been a fixture in the numismatic landscape for two decades now.
Time to say goodbye.
If you care too, post a PCI coin.
Time to say goodbye.
If you care too, post a PCI coin.
peacockcoins
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Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
So for me, I'll miss PCI. At least back then, they were in the game.
roadrunner
<< <i>Although it can be argued PCI got it wrong more than they got it right, they have been a fixture in the numismatic landscape for two decades now.
Time to say goodbye.
If you care too, post a PCI coin.
if memory serves me, you have found many a treasure in their slabs
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
I remember that coin. Glad you put up a pic.
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
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<< <i>Although it can be argued PCI got it wrong more than they got it right, they have been a fixture in the numismatic landscape for two decades now.
Time to say goodbye.
If you care too, post a PCI coin.
if memory serves me, you have found many a treasure in their slabs
peacockcoins
<< <i>Don't confuse the gold label holders with the older green label PCI holders which were graded very conservatively by different owners. >>
True.
I just submitted this half :
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<< <i>Although it can be argued PCI got it wrong more than they got it right, they have been a fixture in the numismatic landscape for two decades now.
Time to say goodbye.
If you care too, post a PCI coin.
if memory serves me, you have found many a treasure in their slabs
Wish I knew who owns that.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>Don't confuse the gold label holders with the older green label PCI holders which were graded very conservatively by different owners. >>
The 10 digit s/n yes but the 12 digit serial number not really.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
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<< <i>Don't confuse the gold label holders with the older green label PCI holders which were graded very conservatively by different owners. >>
The 10 digit s/n yes but the 12 digit serial number not really. >>
They never had a 12 digit serial number. IT was 14,10 and 9.
<< <i>Maybe its me, but every PCI coin I have bought crossed at PCGS at or at a higher grade.
I just submitted this half :
Sold for $500.00
Purchased for $250.00 on eBay (with the coin in it!):
Sold for $750.00:
Others interested in purchasing PCI
PM me for my PayPal Address. Minimal investment and great returns. First ten thousand to send me $100 will get their first coin slabbed free of charge and you will be listed on "Who's Who and Which Widget You Got ?" a yet to be launched internet site where coin geeks unite.
<< <i>When is their stuff being auctioned off? >>
The auction was moved from January 16th to February 16th.
<< <i>Although it can be argued PCI got it wrong more than they got it right, they have been a fixture in the numismatic landscape for two decades now.
Time to say goodbye.
If you care too, post a PCI coin.
Did they not mean to call this coin proof like? The Cameo designation is only for Proof and SMS coins.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
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<< <i>Don't confuse the gold label holders with the older green label PCI holders which were graded very conservatively by different owners. >>
The 10 digit s/n yes but the 12 digit serial number not really. >>
They never had a 12 digit serial number. IT was 14,10 and 9. >>
Well, I am wrong. Is there a difference in the time line and grading when checking the number of digits in the serial number? I was told to
look for the 10 digit serial numbers because they were the first slabs and were graded conservatively.
Jerry
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<< <i>Don't confuse the gold label holders with the older green label PCI holders which were graded very conservatively by different owners. >>
The 10 digit s/n yes but the 12 digit serial number not really. >>
They never had a 12 digit serial number. IT was 14,10 and 9. >>
I just looked at one with 7 digits!
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
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If you care too, post a PCI coin.
Wish I knew who owns that. >>
I believe the original poster had that coin in an auction a few months ago. It was the one that caused this thread " PCI MS 68 Questionable Toning - upgraded to PCGS MS 69 - Must see to Believe! " to come about.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
<< <i>Whoever owns it, I want to buy it. >>
Me too. So, who owns it?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
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<< <i>Whoever owns it, I want to buy it. >>
Me too. So, who owns it? >>
I believe in that thread " PCI MS 68 Questionable Toning - upgraded to PCGS MS 69 - Must see to Believe! " it mentions the auction ended in a strange way but I do not remember how. Maybe the OP still owns it.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Its a very rare PCI to PCGS upgrade:
<< <i>Thank you but I would much rather forget about them, they cost me $1500, I bought a dime entombed by them (gold holder like yours) cracked it out and sent it to PCGS and they said it was artificially toned and later to ANACS and they said it was cleaned. So then I submitted back to PCI in their gold but cracked holder and they asked me if I was the one who cracked it out, if I wasn't they wouldn't holder it , If I was the one then they would, I answered in the affirmative where it is now entombed forever, pretty darn professional if you ask me. I hope I never hear of those ridiculous 3 letters PCI again. >>
Your problem is that you bought a gold holdered coin. "They" didn't cost you anything, you were just paying for the price of your education.
We've all done it, it's part of the hobby.
I've had great luck crossing and even upgrading the old green PCI holders into PCGS.
I still have a few around here, guess I need to keep one for posterity.
I always checked out PCI green holders, there was once much low hanging fruit in that area. Even those that only crossed at the same grade were worth considerably more in the PCGS slab. Many moderns could be purchased for little more than the slabbing fees. I have a few PR CAM Frankies that were acquired that way. One '50 Frankie came back at PR66DCAM with a lovely light blue tint. It was in a PCI PR64 green label slab to start with and I only paid 62 Money for it at an old curmudgeon's table at a small show.
If I could bear to sell anything, I could make quite a few bucks on the favors PCI did for me, intentional or not. The result was the same.
I never looked at any PCI holder/coin that wasn't a green label. Most of us learned better than to do that long ago. The difference is like dog chow versus a NY strip steak.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
<< <i>Thank you but I would much rather forget about them, they cost me $1500, I bought a dime entombed by them (gold holder like yours) cracked it out and sent it to PCGS and they said it was artificially toned and later to ANACS and they said it was cleaned. So then I submitted back to PCI in their gold but cracked holder and they asked me if I was the one who cracked it out, if I wasn't they wouldn't holder it , If I was the one then they would, I answered in the affirmative where it is now entombed forever, pretty darn professional if you ask me. I hope I never hear of those ridiculous 3 letters PCI again. >>
WOW! I have not ever seen a $1500.00 PCI coin. I think the most expensive PCI coins that I noticed sell were a mid 90's PR70 ASE with their highest ultra cameo designation sell for around $850. and a 1939 Proof Walking Liberty Half PR67 cameo sell for about $875.
I guess they must be out there but I just missed seeing the over $1000. PCI Coins. Could or would you please post a picture.
Thanks,
Chance favors the prepared mind.
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<< <i>Thank you but I would much rather forget about them, they cost me $1500, I bought a dime entombed by them (gold holder like yours) cracked it out and sent it to PCGS and they said it was artificially toned and later to ANACS and they said it was cleaned. So then I submitted back to PCI in their gold but cracked holder and they asked me if I was the one who cracked it out, if I wasn't they wouldn't holder it , If I was the one then they would, I answered in the affirmative where it is now entombed forever, pretty darn professional if you ask me. I hope I never hear of those ridiculous 3 letters PCI again. >>
Your problem is that you bought a gold holdered coin. "They" didn't cost you anything, you were just paying for the price of your education.
We've all done it, it's part of the hobby.
I've had great luck crossing and even upgrading the old green PCI holders into PCGS.
I still have a few around here, guess I need to keep one for posterity.
I always checked out PCI green holders, there was once much low hanging fruit in that area. Even those that only crossed at the same grade were worth considerably more in the PCGS slab. Many moderns could be purchased for little more than the slabbing fees. I have a few PR CAM Frankies that were acquired that way. One '50 Frankie came back at PR66DCAM with a lovely light blue tint. It was in a PCI PR64 green label slab to start with and I only paid 62 Money for it at an old curmudgeon's table at a small show.
If I could bear to sell anything, I could make quite a few bucks on the favors PCI did for me, intentional or not. The result was the same.
I never looked at any PCI holder/coin that wasn't a green label. Most of us learned better than to do that long ago. The difference is like dog chow versus a NY strip steak. >>
Great post, thank you!
goodbye PCI
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-Paul
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<< <i>Thank you but I would much rather forget about them, they cost me $1500, I bought a dime entombed by them (gold holder like yours) cracked it out and sent it to PCGS and they said it was artificially toned and later to ANACS and they said it was cleaned. So then I submitted back to PCI in their gold but cracked holder and they asked me if I was the one who cracked it out, if I wasn't they wouldn't holder it , If I was the one then they would, I answered in the affirmative where it is now entombed forever, pretty darn professional if you ask me. I hope I never hear of those ridiculous 3 letters PCI again. >>
Your problem is that you bought a gold holdered coin. "They" didn't cost you anything, you were just paying for the price of your education.
We've all done it, it's part of the hobby.
I've had great luck crossing and even upgrading the old green PCI holders into PCGS.
I still have a few around here, guess I need to keep one for posterity.
I always checked out PCI green holders, there was once much low hanging fruit in that area. Even those that only crossed at the same grade were worth considerably more in the PCGS slab. Many moderns could be purchased for little more than the slabbing fees. I have a few PR CAM Frankies that were acquired that way. One '50 Frankie came back at PR66DCAM with a lovely light blue tint. It was in a PCI PR64 green label slab to start with and I only paid 62 Money for it at an old curmudgeon's table at a small show.
If I could bear to sell anything, I could make quite a few bucks on the favors PCI did for me, intentional or not. The result was the same.
I never looked at any PCI holder/coin that wasn't a green label. Most of us learned better than to do that long ago. The difference is like dog chow versus a NY strip steak. >>
Great post, thank you! >>
A $315.00 coin came back as a $55,000.00 coin per PCGS Guide, that is I believe the dream.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
A couple of the memorable ones:
1895-0 Barber Dime PCI-10 to PCGS-12
1872 Two cent PCI-15 to PCGS-25
1917-s ObvWLH PCI-15 to PCGS-15
1801 Half PCI-35 to PCGS-35
1937-d 3 leg PCI-30 to PCGS-40
1912-s Lib 5c PCI-10 to PCGS-15 (PCGS overgraded this coin)
I had a few commem's that got graded the same in to PCGS holders
I was never able to get much luck on PCI Morgans !! (PCGS is much tougher on better date morgans)