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If you could vote for one player to be in the HOF but probably doesn't deserve it, who would it be?

I'm talking about a player you really liked who had nice stats - a very solid career - but not good enough for HOF consideration.


My vote would be Frank Howard. Hondo was a very solid player with 382 lifetime home runs and played on some good Dodger teams and some terrible Senators teams. Little known fact that he was an All American basketball player in college.



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  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,132 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Without a doubt - Don Mattingly.

    Shane

  • bigfischebigfische Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    Dale Murphy
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  • TheVonTheVon Posts: 2,725
    I would answer this question but there are already "a bazillion" threads out there to explain why my choice shouldn't be elected. image
  • jaxxrjaxxr Posts: 1,258 ✭✭
    Roger Maris,

    Two time MVP, several WS rings, solid defense, great teammate and person.

    And, as far as FAME goes, no one in the history of the game ever had a season procucing more fame. 1961 was so famous, they made a movie about it. The pressure was unbelievable, how dare Maris break the most cherished, popular, famous record in all sports, not just baseball, but all sports. The time setting was quite different back some 46 years ago, no one will ever be under the public eye so greatly, as Roger was.

    If the time limit for true fame and accomplishment was one season, Maris would be a Hall lock. A few other very good years, however not quite enough for the Hall.
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  • TheVon,

    Reading the initial topic question, saying Rice would actually be a good choice. He is the one guy "you could vote for to be in the HOF...but probably doesn't deserve it." That is the question. Rice is a perfect answer.

  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    Roger Maris. One of few Yankees I respect and admire.
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    Oh yeah. Luis Tiante is up there too.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    Dwight Evans
  • TheVonTheVon Posts: 2,725


    << <i>TheVon,

    Reading the initial topic question, saying Rice would actually be a good choice. He is the one guy "you could vote for to be in the HOF...but probably doesn't deserve it." That is the question. Rice is a perfect answer. >>



    I was actually referring to Barry Bonds this time! image
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  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭
    gill hodges

    or

    jack morris
    Fred

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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    J.R. Richard

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  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭
    stown
    i used to love James Rodney boy could he throw. i agree he would have been great!! i got to meet him about 2-3 years ago at the fort washington show, he was signing free autos, he's still a big guy, it was great meeting finally meeting him.
    Fred

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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Have you heard his story? At one point, he was homeless and living under the freeway. At one point, he was close to death and no one would have been the wiser.

    Thankfully, it came to the 'Stros attention and they have gone waaaaay out of their way to help a former player.
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  • Definitely Dale Murphy, he's my favorite retired player and 2nd favorite all time (behind Jim Thome)

  • I can't believe this thread has gone this long without Pete Rose being mentioned yet.

    But my vote would have to go to Maris as well.
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  • Keith Hernandez


    Won 11 consecutive Gold Glove Awards (1978-1988) at first base.
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    Batted over .300 seven times in his career.
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    Was elected to the All-Star Game five times. (1979, 1980, 1984, 1986, and 1987)
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    Led the National League in runs scored (1979 and 1980), doubles (1979), on-base percentage (1980) and walks (1986).
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  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    Not even close to deserving it, but I'd vote for Willie McGee. Just because.
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  • JackWESQJackWESQ Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭
    Without a doubt, Will Clark. Just imagine the speech he would give.

    /s/ JackWESQ
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  • ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,245 ✭✭


    << <i>Oh yeah. Luis Tiante is up there too. >>



    I would agree with this one! image
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  • TheVonTheVon Posts: 2,725
    No love for Dennis "Oil Can" Boyd?
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Pepe Frias.


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  • dallasactuarydallasactuary Posts: 4,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My vote goes to Ron Fairly.
    This is for you @thisistheshow - Jim Rice was actually a pretty good player.
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  • Boog Powell always one of my favorites.

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  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jim Rice or Peyton Manning depending on which stats you consider. image
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  • For me it would be Steve Garvey & Steve Sax. The Dodgers of the late 70's to late 80's were my first favorite sports team and those 2 guys were always my favorite. Garvey was an Iron Man before Ripken was... had a really long games played streak going for a while and amasses 200+ hits in 6 of 7 years in from 1974-80. He was also a great clutch hitter and great fielding 1st baseman (.996 career fldg%). He also won 4 gold gloves and was a 10-time All-Star. Sax was my favorite mainly because of his tremendous enthusiasm. I remember when he first came up, he would actually sprint to first base after receiving a walk. He always ran and played hard and the enthusiasm had such an impact on my life personally... I still use it for motivation today! Sax put together several really good seasons, topped off in 1986 when he hit .332 (2nd to Raines' .334), scored 91 runs, & stole 40 bases. During his time with the Dodgers, he WAS the catalyst, starting many rallies with his good speed and great hustle. He was also a key to LA's '88 WS victory. He was able to accumulate 444 career steals as well. Sax was also one of the first guys to take advantage of the benefits of weight lifting in baseball, which added to his popularity with the ladiesimage Unfortanately, he was forced to retire before his time due to injury, but I truly valued every year that he played.
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  • Jim Bouton
    Tom
  • Clete Boyer - to properly answer the question posed. He doesn't deserve it, but I would love to see him in the HOF.
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  • Graig Nettles

    Hugely underrated. In my opinion his fielding was as good as Brooks Robinson. Although Graig's lifetime Batting Average was 19 points lower than Brooks, Nettles hit 122 more Home Runs. in 8,986 At Bats vs. 10,654 At Bats for Brooks. Their OBP was very similar also.

    Graig Nettles' Stats

    Brooks Robinson's Stats
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  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    rose and maris, rose got bammed and maris got screwed out of at least tying babes recond in the same # of games,and prob would have did it if they didnt swith pitchers on him at last minute,fritch didnt want it to happen,i stilll cant believe hes not in? when babe broke the record it was 20 lol i think - and he played in more games than that guy,whoever itwas
  • I would say Dave Stewart of the great A's teams in the 80's.


  • << <i>Dale Murphy >>

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jim Rice. image


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  • << <i>Bret Saberhagen >>




    come on, you are joking us, Jack Morris is the obvious selection.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I would say Rocky Colavito.


    Steve
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  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    dic k pole and rusy kuntz just for being ribbed for their names all their lives should get them in on the newly opened funny name section jim bunning bought em when he bought his way into the hall,senators can do thatimage
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