<< <i>While there is a time and place for all conversations, some people are just plain stupid with the conversations that they have in: in public, about a company and the person in charge, and on that company's "personal" website.
People think they can say whatever they want, wherever they want, and cloak everything in "freedom of speech". I think it is more that people should get a brain, go post it elsewhere and respect others and their websites and not be trying to get things "going" just by 'wondering'. >>
Completely unfair statement Bochi. I am trying to look at this subject from a very non-biased stance. I greatly appreciate the fact that collector's universe has created this message board for us to use for free. I have learned more about coins here in 3 months than I had learned my previous 3 years. I respect Mr. Hall, and PCGS as a company. But lets not allow that to "blind" us to certain sometimes sensitive issues such as this one. I am in no way attacking Mr. Hall, and if he reads this thread, I hope he understands that. It was just something that I wanted to hear opinions on, and other people's thoughts. >>
C'mon. Are you gonna buy from DHRC or not?
I was going to post "how about just not buying from DHRC, gecko?", but now I'm getting confused.
<< <i>I am switching topics and moving on to the pcgs price guide. It is my opinion that it does influence the coin market, many dealers that i contact use the prices especially if the prices move up, it is another justification that they use to raise their prices. As to DHTC, they appear to use the price guide because their prices are rather steep, one can only assume again wouldn't you know it this is subjective and on any given day a seller can charge a different price. >>
Hmmm. My EBay auctions never reflect the PCGS Price guide nor do they come close to it.
I truely think the onkly thing that the Price Guide does affect is the World Series of Coin Grading.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>While there is a time and place for all conversations, some people are just plain stupid with the conversations that they have in: in public, about a company and the person in charge, and on that company's "personal" website.
People think they can say whatever they want, wherever they want, and cloak everything in "freedom of speech". I think it is more that people should get a brain, go post it elsewhere and respect others and their websites and not be trying to get things "going" just by 'wondering'. >>
Since anything you post online is almost certainly archived somewhere forever (even poofed threads) some people will be in for unpleasant surprises as data-mining becomes more prevalent. Some recent college graduates have been surprised to find that employers are looking at archived copies of their Myspace pages from a few years back, things like "favorite activities: love to get high and have kinky sex with my girlfriend and her little sister" etc.
Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
We (DHRCC) does not send any of our coins to PCGS for grading. DHRCC only sells coins it has bought on the open market that have already been graded by PCGS.
<< <i>This subject has been beaten to death on several ocassions on these boards in the past. It's time to give it a rest.
I agree with you!
Maybe some of these newer folks should try the search feature. Many of the questions and accusations can be answered there.
JMO
Steve >>
60% or more of ALL "new" topics in these forums are really just variations of previously talked about subjects. So what you are saying is, if a topic has ever been posted before, no matter how long ago, we should be forbidden to ever talk about it again? Makes alot of sense. What are you, some sort of neo nazi? >>
So because he asks you to use the search function you call him a neo-nazi? Unreal even for this board. Where is the ban symbol?
<< <i>This subject has been beaten to death on several ocassions on these boards in the past. It's time to give it a rest.
I agree with you!
Maybe some of these newer folks should try the search feature. Many of the questions and accusations can be answered there.
JMO
Steve >>
60% or more of ALL "new" topics in these forums are really just variations of previously talked about subjects. So what you are saying is, if a topic has ever been posted before, no matter how long ago, we should be forbidden to ever talk about it again? Makes alot of sense. What are you, some sort of neo nazi? >>
So because he asks you to use the search function you call him a neo-nazi? Unreal even for this board. Where is the ban symbol? >>
I didnt refer to him as a "neo-nazi" because he asked me to use the search function. I used that reference because he is implying that if a topic can be found in the search, from a time ago, it should be a closed matter not open for discussion again. That basically amounts to censorship, which basically amounts to my harsh reference.
We (DHRCC) does not send any of our coins to PCGS for grading. DHRCC only sells coins it has bought on the open market that have already been graded by PCGS.
David Hall >>
And now that I have an answer from the proverbial "horse's mouth", I am satisfied that Mr. Hall is on the up and up. Thank you David for speaking directly, again, regarding this issue. Sounds like a sore subject, and I didnt intend to raise your blood pressure any. You have some very nice coins on your website by the way!
We (DHRCC) does not send any of our coins to PCGS for grading. DHRCC only sells coins it has bought on the open market that have already been graded by PCGS.
David Hall >>
And now that I have an answer from the proverbial "horse's mouth", I am satisfied that Mr. Hall is on the up and up. Thank you David for speaking directly, again, regarding this issue. Sounds like a sore subject, and I didnt intend to raise your blood pressure any. You have some very nice coins on your website by the way! >>
I'm sure he will sleep better tonight knowing gecko109 believes he is on the up and up.
We (DHRCC) does not send any of our coins to PCGS for grading. DHRCC only sells coins it has bought on the open market that have already been graded by PCGS.
David Hall >>
And now that I have an answer from the proverbial "horse's mouth", I am satisfied that Mr. Hall is on the up and up. Thank you David for speaking directly, again, regarding this issue. Sounds like a sore subject, and I didnt intend to raise your blood pressure any. You have some very nice coins on your website by the way! >>
I have to wonder why you needed an answer directly from Mr. Hall on this and couldn't accept answers from other repected board members. Maybe you should find a new coin board to go play on.
Is that what you want Wolf? For me to leave these boards because I had a question that MOST outsiders would find to be a very serious conflict of interest? Maybe if I stuck to posting topics more benign, such as new mint issues, and "check out this '53 Jefferson I just found in change", I would be more liked in here. Sorry that I asked a hard question, or brought up a controversial topic. My next post will be more mundane. Something like "Gold is up 35 cents to 905.70!!!". That way, members like yourself will be more accepting of a newer collector such as myself.
60% or more of ALL "new" topics in these forums are really just variations of previously talked about subjects. So what you are saying is, if a topic has ever been posted before, no matter how long ago, we should be forbidden to ever talk about it again? Makes alot of sense. What are you, some sort of neo nazi?
No I am not saying that at all. What i am saying is maybe if you want to find out something as sensitive as this maybe research it first? What are you some sort of troll?
Gecko you can ask all the questions you want and make all the accusations you want too. just please do not assume that i am trying to tell you what you can or cannot say here.
How do I delete this entire thread? I obviously have unintentionally ruffled quite a few feathers with my very "insensitive" question and post. I didnt register myself to this message forum to make enemies. I love this site, and learn so much about our hobby from it. Furthermore, this great site gives me an outlet to discuss coins. I have no "coin buddies" in real life, and my wife could care less about our collection. Again, I did not mean to offend or upset anyone here with my post. At this point, it might just be best to zap the whole thing, and consider it water under the bridge. If someone could give me the details on how to do it, that would be great. Or if a moderator could just swoop down and nuke it for me, even better. Hopefully any comments I have made in here wont be held against me personally in the future. Im really neither a bad guy, nor a chit starter. Was just curious about the topic.
<< <i>Frank, you are probably being watched, there is a satellite high up in the sky looking down on as we speak, your car is possibly being tracked with onstar etc, your cell phone is possibly being monitored. Frank, big brother is surely watching you my friend. It is quite unsettling to just realize this, that is why so many chose to have fun with coins Frank. >>
Google Earth is fun. I can zoom in and see my dog in my back yard.
Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
There are also stupid people that ask stupid questions and stupid people that defend stupid questioners too.
For the record, i did not say it was a stupid question, I did not say it was a stupid question that shouldn't be raised. What i did say was simply, maybe it would be best for this question to be researched first. No where in my original comment did i say it was not to be discussed. And I am not calling Gecko stupid nor am i implying his question was stupid.
<< <i>The website also says that graders are forbidden to buy/sell coins
Is David Hall a grader? And actually it depends on their contract. >>
Mr. Hall does not do routine grading, but from RESEARCH I have done, he may be used as a final determinant grader on a coin that could go either way. >>
<< <i>The website also says that graders are forbidden to buy/sell coins
Is David Hall a grader? And actually it depends on their contract. >>
Mr. Hall does not do routine grading, but from RESEARCH I have done, he may be used as a final determinant grader on a coin that could go either way. >>
Bull$hit. There is no ONE grader that does that. >>
I believe that he does do the Presidential Review, and in this capacity, could give the final say on the grade. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
I have started an official poll on this thread. Maybe the results will alert me to either being very inappropriate in the nature of my questions, or spot on for asking the "tough" questions. Time will tell.
<< <i>I believe that he does do the Presidential Review, and in this capacity, could give the final say on the grade. Please correct me if I am mistaken. >>
That has a "sort of" answer. If he believes the grade should change he goes to bat for the coin, but if the graders are an adament no he gets out-voted.
<< <i>The website also says that graders are forbidden to buy/sell coins
Is David Hall a grader? And actually it depends on their contract. >>
Mr. Hall does not do routine grading, but from RESEARCH I have done, he may be used as a final determinant grader on a coin that could go either way. >>
Bull$hit. There is no ONE grader that does that. >>
I believe that he does do the Presidential Review, and in this capacity, could give the final say on the grade. Please correct me if I am mistaken. >>
Stolen from a google search:
Sometimes coins that are submitted for Presidential Review are returned to their owners with an upgrade. Sometimes they are just returned in the original slab. When asked why this happens - Mr. Hall explained -
"Coins are not cracked out for Presidential review. The graders review the coins in the holder, then I write a personal comment to you on each coin that does not go up, giving you whatever insight I might have into the grader's reasoning."
First you want it to go away and now you're taking a poll? You're a real live one. The CEO has answered your question that you could have found the answer to in 10 seconds. And since you want to continue, asking someone to use the search function doesn't merit asking that person if they're a member of a racist group that supports genocide (neo-nazi). There, I'm done.
Guys...It's always ok to ask questions about what we/I do.
As for grading...I don't grade on the line. But the graders do ask my opinion on important coins from time to time. They just want to know know what I think and I think that's OK. They (the verifiers and senior graders) always make the final determination on the grades of the coin.
<< <i>Gecko, you did absolutely nothing wrong here. First off the search button sucks, either you have to be very lucky to stumble on what you are trying to find or it doesn't happen. Second your questions are great, make for good arguments, and at times needs to be discussed and maybe more than once, the problem as I see it is there are some on this board who kiss arse and you obviously don't. Please don't start questioning authority now. Keep up the good work, ;earning is a process, there are no stupid questions, but there are stupid people. I never knew this was discussed before and I have been on the board actively since '06. >>
I totally agree with this statement concerning the original question. I imagine many have wondered about that but were afraid to ask. I suppose some people here have all or a lot of their net worth in graded coins and cannot allow a chink in the armor to even begin. Then there are likely others who think their bravado posts on this forum will get them better grades when they submit, like that was all the graders had to do was witness their loyalty. Again the search function is virtually useless, try as I may I cannot locate this thread with the search function " PCGs graded my Marine Commem... OOOOh Rah! " Could someone please help me find that and tell me how they got it.
I haven't read the entire thread so the following may seem like it's coming from left field...
My impression is that HRH's first love is coin retailing, not coin certification. Even if he thought it smart to walk away from the retail business, I can't imagine him actually doing it.
Andy Lustig
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
Of course having PCGS, CCE, DHRC, and the PCGS price guide under one roof is a conflict of interest. Big deal, this is not a mayor who owns the local contracting firm, who you going to call, the coin posse? There are no rules, grading companies are not regulated and can do what they want. The fact that PCGS is self-policed is a conflict of interest in itself.
Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
<< <i>Of course having PCGS, CCE, DHRC, and the PCGS price guide under one roof is a conflict of interest. Big deal, this is not a mayor who owns the local contracting firm, who you going to call, the coin posse? There are no rules, grading companies are not regulated and can do what they want. The fact that PCGS is self-policed is a conflict of interest in itself. >>
Just FYI...collectors universe is a publicly traded company. So they are regulated to a certain extent.
Unfortunately not, just a bunch of insecure dealers/sellers who can't take it when a collector tells of a bad personal experience.
This thread had nothing to do with a few dealer/sellers and had nothing to do with a bad personal experience. That was your other thread. Are you that mixed up?
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<< <i>While there is a time and place for all conversations, some people are just plain stupid with the conversations that they have in: in public, about a company and the person in charge, and on that company's "personal" website.
People think they can say whatever they want, wherever they want, and cloak everything in "freedom of speech". I think it is more that people should get a brain, go post it elsewhere and respect others and their websites and not be trying to get things "going" just by 'wondering'. >>
Completely unfair statement Bochi. I am trying to look at this subject from a very non-biased stance. I greatly appreciate the fact that collector's universe has created this message board for us to use for free. I have learned more about coins here in 3 months than I had learned my previous 3 years. I respect Mr. Hall, and PCGS as a company. But lets not allow that to "blind" us to certain sometimes sensitive issues such as this one. I am in no way attacking Mr. Hall, and if he reads this thread, I hope he understands that. It was just something that I wanted to hear opinions on, and other people's thoughts. >>
C'mon. Are you gonna buy from DHRC or not?
I was going to post "how about just not buying from DHRC, gecko?", but now I'm getting confused.
<< <i>I am switching topics and moving on to the pcgs price guide. It is my opinion that it does influence the coin market, many dealers that i contact use the prices especially if the prices move up, it is another justification that they use to raise their prices. As to DHTC, they appear to use the price guide because their prices are rather steep, one can only assume again wouldn't you know it this is subjective and on any given day a seller can charge a different price. >>
Hmmm. My EBay auctions never reflect the PCGS Price guide nor do they come close to it.
I truely think the onkly thing that the Price Guide does affect is the World Series of Coin Grading.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>While there is a time and place for all conversations, some people are just plain stupid with the conversations that they have in: in public, about a company and the person in charge, and on that company's "personal" website.
People think they can say whatever they want, wherever they want, and cloak everything in "freedom of speech". I think it is more that people should get a brain, go post it elsewhere and respect others and their websites and not be trying to get things "going" just by 'wondering'. >>
Since anything you post online is almost certainly archived somewhere forever (even poofed threads) some people will be in for unpleasant surprises as
data-mining becomes more prevalent. Some recent college graduates have been surprised to find that employers are looking at archived copies of
their Myspace pages from a few years back, things like "favorite activities: love to get high and have kinky sex with my girlfriend and her little sister" etc.
For about the tenth time.
We (DHRCC) does not send any of our coins to PCGS for grading. DHRCC only sells coins it has bought on the open market that have already been graded by PCGS.
David Hall
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<< <i>This subject has been beaten to death on several ocassions on these boards in the past. It's time to give it a rest.
I agree with you!
Maybe some of these newer folks should try the search feature. Many of the questions and accusations can be answered there.
JMO
Steve >>
60% or more of ALL "new" topics in these forums are really just variations of previously talked about subjects. So what you are saying is, if a topic has ever been posted before, no matter how long ago, we should be forbidden to ever talk about it again? Makes alot of sense. What are you, some sort of neo nazi? >>
So because he asks you to use the search function you call him a neo-nazi? Unreal even for this board. Where is the ban symbol?
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<< <i>
<< <i>This subject has been beaten to death on several ocassions on these boards in the past. It's time to give it a rest.
I agree with you!
Maybe some of these newer folks should try the search feature. Many of the questions and accusations can be answered there.
JMO
Steve >>
60% or more of ALL "new" topics in these forums are really just variations of previously talked about subjects. So what you are saying is, if a topic has ever been posted before, no matter how long ago, we should be forbidden to ever talk about it again? Makes alot of sense. What are you, some sort of neo nazi? >>
So because he asks you to use the search function you call him a neo-nazi? Unreal even for this board. Where is the ban symbol? >>
I didnt refer to him as a "neo-nazi" because he asked me to use the search function. I used that reference because he is implying that if a topic can be found in the search, from a time ago, it should be a closed matter not open for discussion again. That basically amounts to censorship, which basically amounts to my harsh reference.
<< <i>For about the tenth time.
We (DHRCC) does not send any of our coins to PCGS for grading. DHRCC only sells coins it has bought on the open market that have already been graded by PCGS.
David Hall >>
And now that I have an answer from the proverbial "horse's mouth", I am satisfied that Mr. Hall is on the up and up. Thank you David for speaking directly, again, regarding this issue. Sounds like a sore subject, and I didnt intend to raise your blood pressure any. You have some very nice coins on your website by the way!
<< <i>
<< <i>For about the tenth time.
We (DHRCC) does not send any of our coins to PCGS for grading. DHRCC only sells coins it has bought on the open market that have already been graded by PCGS.
David Hall >>
And now that I have an answer from the proverbial "horse's mouth", I am satisfied that Mr. Hall is on the up and up. Thank you David for speaking directly, again, regarding this issue. Sounds like a sore subject, and I didnt intend to raise your blood pressure any. You have some very nice coins on your website by the way! >>
I'm sure he will sleep better tonight knowing gecko109 believes he is on the up and up.
<< <i>
<< <i>For about the tenth time.
We (DHRCC) does not send any of our coins to PCGS for grading. DHRCC only sells coins it has bought on the open market that have already been graded by PCGS.
David Hall >>
And now that I have an answer from the proverbial "horse's mouth", I am satisfied that Mr. Hall is on the up and up. Thank you David for speaking directly, again, regarding this issue. Sounds like a sore subject, and I didnt intend to raise your blood pressure any. You have some very nice coins on your website by the way! >>
I have to wonder why you needed an answer directly from Mr. Hall on this and couldn't accept answers from other repected board members. Maybe you should find a new coin board to go play on.
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60% or more of ALL "new" topics in these forums are really just variations of previously talked about subjects. So what you are saying is, if a topic has ever been posted before, no matter how long ago, we should be forbidden to ever talk about it again? Makes alot of sense. What are you, some sort of neo nazi?
No I am not saying that at all. What i am saying is maybe if you want to find out something as sensitive as this maybe research it first? What are you some sort of troll?
Where did you get your 60% figure from?
Steve
Steve
that to me means that had you searched around, you would have found at least 9 previous threads regarding this issue.
Steve
Steve
<< <i>Frank, you are probably being watched, there is a satellite high up in the sky looking down on as we speak, your car is possibly being tracked with onstar etc, your cell phone is possibly being monitored. Frank, big brother is surely watching you my friend. It is quite unsettling to just realize this, that is why so many chose to have fun with coins Frank. >>
Google Earth is fun. I can zoom in and see my dog in my back yard.
<< <i>Where did you get your 60% figure from? >>
Remember: 37% of all statistics are made up.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Most outsiders would assume it's legal, as the website says they've been in business for years.
Most outsiders would send a PM to someone here, email the website, or do a search thru message board archives to answer the question.
Most outsiders would not assume it's a conflict of interest and demand public answers.
Short story - you're a horses ass looking for trouble.
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<< <i>For me to leave these boards because I had a question that MOST outsiders would find to be a very serious conflict of interest?
Most outsiders would assume it's legal, as the website says they've been in business for years.
Most outsiders would send a PM to someone here, email the website, or do a search thru message board archives to answer the question.
Most outsiders would not assume it's a conflict of interest and demand public answers.
Short story - you're a horses ass looking for trouble. >>
The website also says that graders are forbidden to buy/sell coins.
Is David Hall a grader? And actually it depends on their contract.
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Took me 30 seconds to find it
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<< <i>The website also says that graders are forbidden to buy/sell coins
Is David Hall a grader? And actually it depends on their contract. >>
Mr. Hall does not do routine grading, but from RESEARCH I have done, he may be used as a final determinant grader on a coin that could go either way.
For the record, i did not say it was a stupid question, I did not say it was a stupid question that shouldn't be raised. What i did say was simply, maybe it would be best for this question to be researched first. No where in my original comment did i say it was not to be discussed. And I am not calling Gecko stupid nor am i implying his question was stupid.
Steve
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<< <i>The website also says that graders are forbidden to buy/sell coins
Is David Hall a grader? And actually it depends on their contract. >>
Mr. Hall does not do routine grading, but from RESEARCH I have done, he may be used as a final determinant grader on a coin that could go either way. >>
Bull$hit. There is no ONE grader that does that.
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I'm done with you, and I suspect if you continue to incite flames where there is no smoke, the PCGS board will soon be done with you as well.
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<< <i>The website also says that graders are forbidden to buy/sell coins
Is David Hall a grader? And actually it depends on their contract. >>
Mr. Hall does not do routine grading, but from RESEARCH I have done, he may be used as a final determinant grader on a coin that could go either way. >>
Bull$hit. There is no ONE grader that does that. >>
I believe that he does do the Presidential Review, and in this capacity, could give the final say on the grade. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
<< <i>Sorry that I asked a hard question, or brought up a controversial topic. >>
It isn't a hard question. In fact, it's a rather easy question that was answered over 50 posts ago.
<< <i>First off the search button sucks, either you have to be very lucky to stumble on what you are trying to find or it doesn't happen. >>
Or, you need to have a clue.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>I believe that he does do the Presidential Review, and in this capacity, could give the final say on the grade. Please correct me if I am mistaken. >>
That has a "sort of" answer. If he believes the grade should change he goes to bat for the coin, but if the graders are an adament no he gets out-voted.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>
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<< <i>The website also says that graders are forbidden to buy/sell coins
Is David Hall a grader? And actually it depends on their contract. >>
Mr. Hall does not do routine grading, but from RESEARCH I have done, he may be used as a final determinant grader on a coin that could go either way. >>
Bull$hit. There is no ONE grader that does that. >>
I believe that he does do the Presidential Review, and in this capacity, could give the final say on the grade. Please correct me if I am mistaken. >>
Stolen from a google search:
Sometimes coins that are submitted for Presidential Review are returned to their owners with an upgrade. Sometimes they are just returned in the original slab. When asked why this happens - Mr. Hall explained -
"Coins are not cracked out for Presidential review. The graders review the coins in the holder, then I write a personal comment to you on each coin that does not go up, giving you whatever insight I might have into the grader's reasoning."
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Guys...It's always ok to ask questions about what we/I do.
As for grading...I don't grade on the line. But the graders do ask my opinion on important coins from time to time. They just want to know know what I think and I think that's OK. They (the verifiers and senior graders) always make the final determination on the grades of the coin.
Thanks,
David
<< <i>Gecko, you did absolutely nothing wrong here. First off the search button sucks, either you have to be very lucky to stumble on what you are trying to find or it doesn't happen. Second your questions are great, make for good arguments, and at times needs to be discussed and maybe more than once, the problem as I see it is there are some on this board who kiss arse and you obviously don't. Please don't start questioning authority now. Keep up the good work, ;earning is a process, there are no stupid questions, but there are stupid people. I never knew this was discussed before and I have been on the board actively since '06. >>
I totally agree with this statement concerning the original question. I imagine many have wondered about that but were afraid to ask. I suppose some people here have all or a lot of their net worth in graded coins and cannot allow a chink in the armor to even begin. Then there are likely others who think their bravado posts on this forum will get them better grades when they submit, like that was all the graders had to do was witness their loyalty.
Again the search function is virtually useless, try as I may I cannot locate this thread with the search function " PCGs graded my Marine Commem... OOOOh Rah! " Could someone please help me find that and tell me how they got it.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Steve
<< <i>Did you try typing in the title?
Steve >>
Yes, just now exactly as it appears in my saved subscriptions.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
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<< <i>Did you try typing in the title?
Steve >>
Yes, just now exactly as it appears in my saved subscriptions. >>
But I guess you have to have in your saved subscriptions to type it exactly as it appears? >>
Yes and it would be a simple matter to click on that if it were available to do but with me anyway it is not a live link.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
My answer about typing in the title was in reply to you stating you couldn't even find this thread. (A thread in which you were posting in)
Sorry I confused you two.
Steve
My impression is that HRH's first love is coin retailing, not coin certification. Even if he thought it smart to walk away from the retail business, I can't imagine him actually doing it.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
<< <i>Of course having PCGS, CCE, DHRC, and the PCGS price guide under one roof is a conflict of interest. Big deal, this is not a mayor who owns the local contracting firm, who you going to call, the coin posse? There are no rules, grading companies are not regulated and can do what they want. The fact that PCGS is self-policed is a conflict of interest in itself. >>
Just FYI...collectors universe is a publicly traded company. So they are regulated to a certain extent.
<< <i>You gecko, are a trouble-making horses ass as I said.
I'm done with you, and I suspect if you continue to incite flames where there is no smoke, the PCGS board will soon be done with you as well. >>
If he's a trouble-maker, wouldn't he have instead bought up this old thread?
Ed. S.
(EJS)
This thread had nothing to do with a few dealer/sellers and had nothing to do with a bad personal experience. That was your other thread. Are you that mixed up?
Steve