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Goose in, Rice got 72.2%

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • dodged a bullet
    Tom
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    goose freaking gossage??? what a joke

    JS
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    has anyone else gotten 72+% and not gotten elected the following year? Congrats to Gossage, he was the dominant reliever of his day (much the way Rice was as a hitter)
  • I believe Gossage is worthy of the honor bestowed on him today.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Goose definitely deserved it - one of the best, if not the best, relief pitchers I ever saw.

    Rice is a marginal HOF in my opinion. One of those guys I don't think should be in, but if he gets in, I've got no problem with it...not like a Bill Mazeroski who is a joke being in the HOF.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe my PSA 9 rookie card just went up in value? image
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    If Tony Pena can get in, Rice should too.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Why the long faces? Everyone that ever just missed out on the vote made it. Rice has next year on the ballot and if history is correct he will get in then. I too have no problem with him getting in. When your peers say that you are the best and most feared hitter in the league that amounts more to me then what any stat geek can come up with.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Congrats to Goose, he deserved it had better numbers than Sutter.
  • Good for Goose!


    9 time all star with over 300 saves isn't too shabby.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    rice will get it next year, nobodys ever got 70 some % and not got in, just takes times, its all politics, goose had 71 % last yeart, bert had better % than hes ever had, might make it before 15th vote and drops off like tommy john will next year,it be his final go at before senior ballot
    glad goose got in, dint figure anybody else would this time,2 will get in next year if history is any record-prob rice and bert
  • Rice should've got in IMO

    Not so sure he gets in next year either, it's Rickey's year next year and i can see Rice getting screwed again.

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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Next year is Rice's last year of eligibilty. After that it will be up to the Veterans committee. Rice deserves to be in IMO. I am absolutely positive that his extremely bad attitude to writers when he was a player has been the difference.

    Just to play devils advocate .... Dave Parker is very comparable to Rice. Parker has never got close I don't think.

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  • I don't know if Gossage deserved this or not, I'm really on the fence. But the argument I want to make is that a player should not be a Hall of Famer just because there is no one else to vote for. Just because Ripken and Gwynn are on the ballot means that Gossage is not a HOFer? That does not make any sense to me at all.

    Secondly, the recent trend of saying someone is a First Ballot HOFer is so much hogwash, to quote a recent sports hero. Either a player is a HOFer or he isn't.

    So with that in mind I would like to propose the following radical change to the HOF voting procedure.

    One and done.

    1. A player can be on the HOF ballot for one year. Make the voters decide if a player is worthy or not. If he is not worthy in the fisr year, what makes him worthy in the 15th year?
    2. Eliminate the 10 player maximum that a writer can vote for. Make it unlimited. If 12 players belong in the Hall that year then elect 12, if none belong then elect none.
    3. Reduce the waiting period to appear on the ballot from 5 to 3 years. This way the player is still somewhat fresh in the minds of the voters.
    4. The player still must appear on 75% of the ballots.

    Let's hear your thoughts.
    Always looking for T59 Flags.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    3. Reduce the waiting period to appear on the ballot from 5 to 3 years. This way the player is still somewhat fresh in the minds of the voters.

    Let's hear your thoughts. >>



    A true HOF'er is fresh in the minds of most 20 years down the line image

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  • jaxxrjaxxr Posts: 1,258 ✭✭
    "A true HOF'er is fresh in the minds of most, 20 years down the line. "

    Very well said.

    Always wonder about the vet. com. voting though,
    if a guy wasn't good enough 20-30 years ago, and of course he got no additional hits, nor pitched any more shutouts, etc., since then, why should his record now, become changed into one which is hall worthy ??
    the original premise, was to consider players who were removed well over 40 years or more, really old-time guys who never were on a regular ballot.
    The concept has changed, and now players who were considered unworthy every time on the regular ballots, merely get many more more trys to gain entry with the vet voting.
    This aint no party,... this aint no disco,.. this aint no fooling around.
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