Clemens looks like a Guilty man to me.
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He looks very nervous.
What an interview. He said "it didn't happen" about 20 times.
What an interview. He said "it didn't happen" about 20 times.
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Interesting that McNamee threatened to sue Clemens for defamation if he called him a liar. Rare in legal circles that someone would preemptively threaten that kind of claim.
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<< <i>Well, he's never been a good speaker. He sounds like that even in his other interviews. >>
He was not exactly convincing in his defense, he did seem quite nervous, anyone see that red "thing", not sure what it was in his left hand that he kept fiddling with in the early part of the interview? It seemed almost like a pacifier.
<< <i>Well, he's never been a good speaker. He sounds like that even in his other interviews. >>
Perhaps, but he nervously reached for that bottle of water a few times as well. I gotta say this is a pretty good strategy, and he will get some people to believe him in the short run, but if he is lying, more damning evidence will show up and bury him and keep him out of the HOF for good.
<< <i>LMAO at him. I've never seen someone so defensive.
Interesting that McNamee threatened to sue Clemens for defamation if he called him a liar. Rare in legal circles that someone would preemptively threaten that kind of claim.
Ron >>
If McNamee doesn't sue, does that mean Rocket told the truth?
It'll be interesting to see if they both testify to Congress. If they both testify and stick to their stories, one of them is lying and could be subject to a perjury charge for lying to Congress.
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<< <i>LMAO at him. I've never seen someone so defensive.
Interesting that McNamee threatened to sue Clemens for defamation if he called him a liar. Rare in legal circles that someone would preemptively threaten that kind of claim.
Ron >>
If McNamee doesn't sue, does that mean Rocket told the truth? >>
No, I think that McNamee was looking for a certain kind of statement from Clemens to file suit, I noticed that Clemens never
directly used the word "liar" in refering to McNamee but just said that what was alleged did not happen, in other words he
says he lied but didn't say it outright. That might have been the criteria that McNamee was looking, just a guess anyway.
But if McNamee was doing all the injecting, I'm guessing it was his stuff and his stuff only. Roger never had to buy his own.
Mcnamee only said he injected Clemens using the needles and steroids provided by Clemens. If this is true theres a middle man somehwere. At some point you would think Mcnamee would have ask where is this stuff coming from? Wouldnt Mitchell make every effort to find out?
My gut reaction was that the anger he displayed was a pretty convenient way to hide the fact that he had very little to say to support his case. He did succeed, however, in making me feel bad about how our country really has shifted to more of a guilty until proven innocent mindset. And, really, there is no way for him to prove his innocence.
As far as 'anger' goes, I think he's angry that the trainer (who I assume he also considered his friend) pinned him. Nothing more, nothing less. That's why he seems angry. Broken trust.
But it is sad that you have to prove you didn't do it. I will agree with Roger there.
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<< <i>It'll be interesting to see if they both testify to Congress. If they both testify and stick to their stories, one of them is lying and could be subject to a perjury charge for lying to Congress.
Ron >>
Well they both could be telling the truth as they know it.
McNamee could have injected Clemens with steroids without Clemens knowing about it...
Or McNamee could have injected Clemens with some other substance, and thought it was steroids instead.
and the constant swallowing sort of suggests he is hiding something.
Guess we will find out in 10 days when he 's under oath.
Interviewed in his home by someone he has a decent relationship with about an accusation that is "groundless" -- and he behaved very nervously. OK, Roger, I believe you
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Now he can say that he "can't comment until this case is resolved" - pretty damn convinient if you ask me
<< <i>Well, this morning Clemens sued McNamee for defamation. Interesting. He may have proof to exonerate himself after all, as he'd need that to win his defamation claim.
Ron >>
Yeah, but this might go against him now. If I was Clemens, I say that I would definitely sue, but only AFTER the hearing scheduled for next week. Filing a suit now might appear as though he is putting up a convenient wall to keep him from testifying. If you recall, Bonds did not appear in the first round of congressional hearing because he couldn't legally do so. He was tied up with the on-going case with Balco and was prohibited from testifying.
<< <i>Well, this morning Clemens sued McNamee for defamation. Interesting. He may have proof to exonerate himself after all, as he'd need that to win his defamation claim.
Ron >>
I doubt it. If Clemems is indeed lying, he has painted himself in a corner that he cannot get out of. He would have probably been better off with the Giambi "im Sorry" strategy (if he is lying), but Clemens ego is such that he would rather go down in flames than admit to anything.
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<< <i>anyone watching to espn now? >>
Just saw it. What a circus. The tape does not prove anything either way. All I get from it is than McNamee feels bad about getting Rocket in trouble because he had to tell the truth (that Clemens did steroids).
I was VERY disappointed in the toothless questions from the reporters. One of them should have called him out on the Lidocaine -- that is not something that is used for joints, and even if it was, a trainer would not stick a needle in a joint. Idiots.
1st, its shady he told him there was "nobody on my end" of the phone line
2nd, he wanted him to say i lied, but he he couldnt tell him to say that directly. Clemens had pleny of chances to do that, but he was coached about not leading him before the call.
3rd, im not sure why he thinks this tape helps him, i think if anything, it makes him look weaker.
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<< <i>that lawsuit was filed so he does not have to testify in front of congress this week - period!
Now he can say that he "can't comment until this case is resolved" - pretty damn convinient if you ask me >>
To me, McNamee sounded like a desparate man. He mentions his ill son, and "what do you want me to do?". I don't mean to be insensitive to his son's condition, but what does that have to do with the allegations? Is McNamee saying he had to do what he did to be with his son?
When Clemens says something along the lines of "I need the truth to come out"; if McNamee was telling the truth all along, wouldn't he have responded by saying that the truth is already out there? I'm sure both men have been well preppred by their legal counsel on what they can and absolutely cannot say, so obviously that could make their conversations awkward.
Very bizzare story overall. When the allegations first hit, I wasn't surprised. Not that I suspected Clemens in particular. But performance enhancers are so wide spread in all sports, it can't be a shocker no matter what the name is. He also took his time before releasing any statements; one would think a response to this type of allegation would be immediate. But the taped phone call has swayed me towards believing Roger. I didn't see the 60 minutes interview. But as others have said Roger is not good with interviews. If baseball didn't work out for him, public speaking would not have been an option.
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<< <i>Clemens put it out there in the phone conversation and McNamee did not defend his testimony. Free the Rocket... The Rocket is innocent! >>
You can't be serious.