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Would an acetone bath benefit this coin?

EDITED: Hit enter before I finished writing out my post originally.

I recently bought this 1909 VDB cent and when it arrived, it had a little bit of what appears to be loose grime on the surface. (I'm thinking the coin's nice and original - please let me know if you agree or disagree.) There is also a little bit of fluff and dust under the 2x2 window, but that ought to blow off easily with a little canned air. What I'm referring to is some of the darker stuff.

I value the original look of this coin, so I don't want to clean it all up, but if there's any loose stuff just barely clinging to the surface, I think the coin would benefit from an acetone bath to remove it, lest it later detach and end up causing marks on the surface. What do y'all recommend?


While we're at it, any other thoughts anyone has on the coin (e.g., grade, originality, eye appeal) are appreciated.


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  • Hmmmm...... tough call.

    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • pendragon1998pendragon1998 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭
    image - Edited
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it certainly would not hurt the coin.
  • pendragon1998pendragon1998 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭
    I'm mainly concerned that I might end up lifting off a piece of dirt and have a fresh bit of copper exposed. Is that a risk?
  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    Looks to me like a choice primo AU, the acetone should not hurt it a bit....no scrubbing tho
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  • I'd go the MS70 route first.

    Might be all you'd need to do

    Sometimes acetone and copper don't play well together, make it a short soak if you do it.

    I'll go AU 55, nice looking coin there.
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • Only if you light it up!image

    just kidding............Happy New Year
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  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,351 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>it certainly would not hurt the coin. >>



    Ditto
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  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's that dark mark under the date? Did the S fall off? image
    I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector.
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,244 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wouldnt hurt but it looks like corrosion.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

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  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Go for it !!!
    That's not considered a rare, or a valuable coin by any means...
  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What's that dark mark under the date? Did the S fall off? image >>



    lol
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  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    I'd suggest Blue Ribbon. Doesn't change the color of copper at all, not that I've ever had acetone change the color of copper. I typically dip a Q-tip in Blue Ribbon and liberally roll a generous portion of BR on both sides of the coin. Notice I said roll, not rub. I'd keep this up for a little while to see if any of the dirt and grime is coming up on the cotton swab. Once you are happy with the removal of dirt, I take a cloth and blot the BR off. Then a squirt of acetone out of a squirt bottle to remove any remaining BR and you're done. No color change, no residues, no masking.
  • greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    I don't think I would get too aggressive with that coin. I like it the way it is. An acetone dip won't hurt it, but it ain't going to change it much either IMO. I would definately stay way clear of MS70, or any other detergent solvent. The coin looks nice and weathered to me. Why would you want a minimally circulated coin to look completely clean. It has just a hint of circulation skin on it...just as it should. I vote strongly for leaving it alone and enjoying it. Cheers (on about my 6th frosty brew right now)

    Edited to add: If its the loose stuff that's bothering you...thats what they invented those spray cans of compressed air for. Give it blast of air...that's the ticket.

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,960 ✭✭✭
    Tough call, I have never tried it.

    That said if you do try it please post before and after pictures so others can share the experience. image
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    Goo Gone?
  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220
    A good soak in 100% Orange Juice overnight should do the trick.image
  • That coin could very well be MS60 I see no signs of wear underneath the dirt. I would say AU55 at worst. Good luck cleaning it. I have never used acetone so I don't know how it will effect the coin.
    Best Regards,

    Rob


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  • pendragon1998pendragon1998 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭
    Mmm...I think it's definitely AU. There's some wear (possibly cabinet wear (?), as it's parallel across the highpoints only) on the coin. I'm not sure what the little white speck is on Lincoln's face. I'm going to see if a very gentle q-tip will remove it. I think it's just lightly adhered cardboard dust (oh, how I hate cardboard dust).

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    Thanks to everyone who offered advice. I decided to err on the side of caution. I blew off the coin with some canned air, but I'm not going to worry about acetone. I'm not aiming to clean off all of the coin gunk that's there, just make sure nothing's loose to mess up the coin when it's in its spot in my album. I rather like the 'permanent coin gunk' being there.

    Here's the coin after I dusted it with canned air.

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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm mainly concerned that I might end up lifting off a piece of dirt and have a fresh bit of copper exposed. Is that a risk? >>



    No, acetone will just remove debris. It will not affect the metal itself.
  • acetone should work ok. I tried playing with a few common Wheaties before I messed with my 09 vdb just to see the reaction to the coin. It took a lot of the surface dirt off mine with no bad effects.. Good luck....If my 09 vdb looked that nice I wouldn't have messed with it though...

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