Tiger Woods cards.

Allen

I have been wanting a 2001 SP Authentic Tiger Woods Auto for a while. Do you think this card has room to grow? It sells for about $1,500 give or take in raw or in a 9. Do you think this could go up in the future? I think this is the best Tiger Woods card to own if his cards do spike, but I am sure some might argue that the 1996 SI for Kids is his true Rookie. I think the SI for kids card has peaked and crashed as Tiger has legit Upper Deck cards now, but I know some will argue that. I guess what I am asking is what do you think of Tiger Woods cards now and in the future haha.

Rogermnj

I think this is THE card to own.

If people are paying 10-15k for Manning 98 contenders and Pujols rookie auto hit 8k or whatever it was than I don't see why this card can't hit 4500.

cwazzy

I do agree that this would be the Tiger card to own. However, I don't see that golf cards will ever be as popular as the other sports cards. I would think that the cards are about as high now as they will get in the foreseeable (sp?) future. I don't know that there is that much more that he can do in his career that he hasn't already done that would give this card a boost in value. But that is just my opinion and most would tell you that it's not worth the internet space that it is typed in.

Chris

bifff257

<< <i>I guess what I am asking is what do you think of Tiger Woods cards now and in the future haha. >>



I think now is a good time to be buying Tiger Woods cards.....

I think we will get a big jump as he gets closer to and eventually breaks Jack's record for majors.

stevek

The problem though is Tiger could go broke and then start signing prolifically at autograph shows for $10 a pop...reducing his autograph value.

fandango

i think the whole Tiger phenomenon is winding down....

his cards were worth way more 5 years ago.....

i would stay away from Tiger cards, he is not making any new fans, he is simply losing older ones....

joeknowscards

As for the last post from fandango I disagree that he is losing older fans and that he is not making new fans. Most people are in awe of what he is doing. The proof is in the fact that TV ratings are bad when he is not playing in a tournament. A good assumption that could be made based upon that is that people want to watch Tiger Woods and that these people are his fans. Back a few years ago more people watched golf on TV even when he wasn't playing but that isn't the case now.

As for the idea that his cards were worth way more a few years ago I disagree with that. I continually see his 2001 SP Authentic Auto PSA 10 card going for over $6000, which is way up from the usual $2500-$3000 of a year or two ago. In addition, people are paying ridiculous prices for his 2001 UD Promo cards and UD Heroes of Golf National Promo cards in either PSA 9 or PSA 10 even though there is such a huge population of 9's and 10's in circulation. Check the population report, you'll see what I mean, they're the opposite of rare cards (41% are PSA 10's out of 750 for the Heroes of Golf & 27% are 10's for the Promo out of 836).

And stevek's idea that Tiger could go broke and start selling autographs for $10 a piece is a little extreme. He makes over $100 million a year, just bought a compound for $60 million in the Hamptons, and has a 150 foot yacht. He's not going broke and his autographs are always going to be valuable.

I agree with bifff257 that his cards will increase in value as he closes the gap between himself and Nicklaus.

The bottom line is that Tiger Woods is the most dominant athlete of our time or perhaps ever and how is it a bad thing to collect his memorabilia?

Joe

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VitoCo1972

<< <i>As for the last post from fandango I disagree that he is losing older fans and that he is not making new fans. Most people are in awe of what he is doing. The proof is in the fact that TV ratings are bad when he is not playing in a tournament. A good assumption that could be made based upon that is that people want to watch Tiger Woods and that these people are his fans. Back a few years ago more people watched golf on TV even when he wasn't playing but that isn't the case now.

Joe Knows Cards >>



Look, I agree that you can't argue with TV ratings, but there is something to the point that he isn't actually loved as much as admired (David Feherty's words, not mine). He'll never be as loved as a Palmer or Mickelson because he isn't nearly as nice as them to be around when he's interacting with fans. I go to 10 golf tournaments a year. I have never seen him look a fan in the eye or even acknowledge their presence (and I usually go to practice rounds - not tournaments where tunnel vision is acceptable). I think this fact is one reason that his memorabilia will never reach the stratosphere in terms of price. It will always sell really well, but there are a lot of golf fans - and aren't they the ones that would be the buyers - that wouldn't invest money in an item from a player like him. Now, his exclusive deal with Upper Deck limits his signing at tournaments, but I would rather invest the $1000 in an unpersonalized signed Masters Flag - available on eBay or at UD. The signatures are big and you can actually display them. I know I've posted this here before, but here are examples of how great his signature looks on a flag:

TomGshotput

If prices do increase, six or seven 8x10 photos would increase a lot more than one card for $1 500. Few people care about golf cards

JeremyDie1

Tiger cards were on fire and still are and always will be.

clydecoolidge

Yeah, I don't see Tiger ever going broke. He doesn't seem like a moron who would squander away that much cash ala MC Hammer. And I also see him as the sort that might "reclude" when he does eventually retire, and actually not start signing a lot. After all the hype surrounding him, seems like he would need a nice long break from it all.

I was lucky enough to see him in his first pro tourney here in Milwaukee. I saw him chip in a 25 footer off the green, then my buddy saw him can a hole-in-one on a par 3 the following day. That was at the GMO, and after that he blew up and never came back, lol.

nightcrawler

Yup, Tiger stuff will always go up and down... but mostly up.


He'll be breaking records and setting the bar so high...

...like Gretzky, it'll be a long while before anyone comes along to do anything about it.


He might not win any popularity contests, but do card collectors really care?

joeknowscards

Yeah nightcrawler you're right man. Mickelson & Palmer won "popularity contests" (so does Tiger just look at TV ratings and his galleries when he plays, come on) but I don't see a big market for Palmer cards or any value whatsoever in Phil's cards (besides autos maybe, which get nothing compared to Tiger's autos). 20 years from now nobody is going to care about Phil, he's just going to be another guy that won a few majors, people aren't going to look back at him as some sort of legend. People see Phil as a modern Palmer because of his popularity but there's no shot of him being remembered and revered like Palmer because he simply didn't win enough majors, so those that think that are wrong.

If anybody is a modern Palmer it's Tiger. Palmer was so big because (1) he had so many fans and (2) he revolutionized the game and brought a whole new fan base. Tiger has a ton of fans. I just don't see how it is possible to say that Tiger isn't popular. The galleries when he is playing are enormous! There's no doubt that he revolutionized the game. Tiger basically made every other player on the tour richer because the purses on the PGA tour are so huge now. Some no name guy out of the top 125 will still make 500K for the year, not too bad. In addition, Tiger started the fitness wave where every golfer is weight training. Furthermore, he has attracted so many younger fans to the game of golf through his First Tee Program and simply through being amazing.

Joe

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VitoCo1972

<< <i>Yeah nightcrawler you're right man. Mickelson & Palmer won "popularity contests" (so does Tiger just look at TV ratings and his galleries when he plays, come on) but I don't see a big market for Palmer cards or any value whatsoever in Phil's cards (besides autos maybe, which get nothing compared to Tiger's autos). 20 years from now nobody is going to care about Phil, he's just going to be another guy that won a few majors, people aren't going to look back at him as some sort of legend. People see Phil as a modern Palmer because of his popularity but there's no shot of him being remembered and revered like Palmer because he simply didn't win enough majors, so those that think that are wrong.

If anybody is a modern Palmer it's Tiger. Palmer was so big because (1) he had so many fans and (2) he revolutionized the game and brought a whole new fan base. Tiger has a ton of fans. I just don't see how it is possible to say that Tiger isn't popular. The galleries when he is playing are enormous! There's no doubt that he revolutionized the game. Tiger basically made every other player on the tour richer because the purses on the PGA tour are so huge now. Some no name guy out of the top 125 will still make 500K for the year, not too bad. In addition, Tiger started the fitness wave where every golfer is weight training. Furthermore, he has attracted so many younger fans to the game of golf through his First Tee Program and simply through being amazing.

Joe

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I think you're missing the point of my post where I say that Tiger is admired - not loved. What I'm saying is Tiger's galleries come out to watch in amazement at the accomplishments that he's amassing - not because they necessarily like him, although some do. And beyond his impact on the Tour, his real impact on the game of golf is internationally. Just go to any golf course (particularly in areas of the country populated by first and second generation Americans) and you'll see Tiger's global impact. He has a lot to do with golf going bananas in Asia and the Middle East because he travels there to play. That will be his lasting impact on regular folk who don't ever get the chance to meet him. Look, I'm not hating on the guy but it's a LOT easier to like Mickelson or Arnold Palmer if you've met all three at golf tournaments (which I have on several occasions). The reason their autographs will never sell for tons of money is because they sign so MANY of them. Mickelson and Palmer will stay and sign for the last guy in line. Tiger signs so few that supply and demand will dictate higher prices.

joeknowscards

Gotcha...I didn't make the distinction between admire & love, it's true...What tourneys have you been? I'm a NY guy so I've been to the Opens at Bethpage, Shinn. and Winged foot and the 2005 PGA at Baltusrol...

Joe

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VitoCo1972

I went to that Open at Winged Foot also - i went to the Monday practice day. I live in Los Angeles but am originally from Boston. I played Bethpage Black two months before the Open - shot 94 from the tips. Every year I go to The Buick Open at Torrey Pines (going to the Open there this year too), the LA Open at Riviera, the Bob Hope in Palm Springs, used to do the Match Play when it was at La Costa. I also hit the AT&T Senior Classic in Valencia, the Toshiba Senior Classic in Newport Beach and then I usually travel once a year to a tournament I have not been to - hence Winged Foot and Westchester the week before.

Alfonz24

Auction on Naxcom - It was $6k as I linked this:

2001 SP Authentic 45 Tiger Woods (RC - Rookie Card - Autographed - #d to 900) MOST SOUGHT AFTER ROOKIE AUTO ON THE PLANET!!!

Grade/Condition: BGS 9.5 - Autograph 10 GEM MINT

Woods SP Auto Auction

Allen

<< <i>i think the whole Tiger phenomenon is winding down....

his cards were worth way more 5 years ago.....

i would stay away from Tiger cards, he is not making any new fans, he is simply losing older ones....
>>



This from the Pujols and card investment expert ....WHO JUST CALLED ME A JINX? Please enjoy your crow, it certainly is a large one.

mtcards

I would think Tiger's cards still have room to increase, although not quite by 300%

Golf cards are still fairly uncommon to the average collector. Even the 2001 Upper Deck in its over printed quantities are not that easy to come by for the average Joe. Savvy collectors can easily find them, but not the WalMart-Target crowd.

Honestly, the best (?) golfer, maybe of all time, has a rookie card of $10-$15? I was looking through the latest price guide and saw a Jason Kidd insert from 1996 book for the same. Either one is over priced or the other underpriced or a combination of both.

As for golf not being mainstream, people said that about football cards in 1988 and basketball in 1989 and then again for Racing in the late 1990's. You never know........

Rogermnj

Please read the 2nd post of this thread for all of your investment needs....

ndleo

Nothing like bringing a 9 year old thread back to life.

Now that he has had another back surgery and likely could be done as a competitive golfer, I think we can put his cards into perspective.

I think his 2001 SP Authentic Auto card is considered his "best" rookie. The card is basically at the same price level when Allen started this thread. As time passes on, do you see this card becoming one of the modern iconic cards in the hobby? In the same neighborhood as the 1979 OPC Gretzky, 1980 Bird/Magic, 1986 Jerry Rice, etc.

I was in grad school when he made that 1997 Masters run and from 1997-2008 was probably one of the most dominant athletes in any sport. I know not breaking Jack's record will be a huge disappointment to some fans, but no one would care about Golf cards if it wasn't for him.

muffins

nice dig up!

was never a huge tiger fan but he was good for the game (for the most part) and golf cards. wouldnt say he's the reason that anyone collects golf cards though. if ya meant "modern golf cards", then i would definitely agree.

as for the ud cards, i think just about all of them were over produced. and many of the auto low #'d sp were sometimes doubled in qty and taken by/given to employees. they even made employee only distributed cards.

even the 96 sifk card is/was overly hyped and can probably claim the title for the largest all-time-tank record...

$100k for a psa 10 back then?
maybe $4k on a good day today!

but he's actually got some pretty cool and very rare "rookies" that pre-date the upper deck endless runs.

will post a few in a bit just to add to the threads flavor.

thanks for bringing this back up! was a good read.

mlbfan2

@muffins said:
even the 96 sifk card is/was overly hyped and can probably claim the title for the largest all-time-tank record...

$100k for a psa 10 back then?
maybe $4k on a good day today!

Going from a pop 1 to a pop 24 will do that.

muffins

@mlbfan2 said:
Going from a pop 1 to a pop 24 will do that.

bouncing around perkins and benningans parking lots for late night booty calls prolly didnt help much either!

muffins

@bifff257 said:

I think we will get a big jump as he gets closer to and eventually breaks Jack's record for majors.
>

guess your grays sporting almanac ya stumbled upon did stop in 2000...

sorry. had to.

muffins

and the quick dig for early woods cards other than ud, as promised:

muffins

didnt post in same sequencing as selected from phone, but some of the rarer ones:

galaxy27

this was a good read.

rad Eldricks! ^

ghigh

Who collects Tiger Woods cards?

OddRodz

Michelle Braun

HighGradeLegends

who is tiger woods?

muffins

@HighGradeLegends said:
who is tiger woods?

obviously youre not a bowler.