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My Mom said she was given an 1842 Dollar by a freind...**UPDATE**

relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
and she is sending it to me........What do you think I will recieve? She lives in Montana.....one of the true Western hard money states, if that makes any difference.

Well, the coin came in the mail today...........Here are the photos. Real or fake? I don't know much about seated dollars, my first impression is not real, but I really have no idea. BTW, she said the date was 1842, but as you can see it's 1846.

JJ

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,093 ✭✭✭
    Chinese fake.

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  • Bogus
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,356 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did your mom's friend vacation somewhere in Asia?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • Uhh, how's your Mom's eyesight ?
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I voted harshly cleaned. It was nice original coin when given to her but moms simply can't mail tarnished silver to their son. It's a sin. --Jerryimage
  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    <<My Mom said she was given an 1842 Dollar by a freind....>>

    If it's real your mom has a great friend, good luck image
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Regardless...it's still kinda neat. Ask her if there is a ding across LIBERTY on the shield (easily seen without a magnifier)...a prime diagnostic for one of the common counterfeit obverses.

    BTW...I hope it's real!

    Lane
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  • << <i>and she is sending it to me........What do you think I will recieve? She lives in Montana.....one the true Western hard money states, if that makes any difference. >>



    I voted for the 3rd choice- but then its coming from a friend of your moms and only the good Lord knows who tried the con game-

    I hope its real and in excellent condition.

    keep us posted.
  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I voted for Nice orginal Seated Dollar, even if it's not it's from mom with love it's a great piece anyway
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,039 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Uhh, how's your Mom's eyesight ? >>



    Uh..............Why do you ask?

    JJ
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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,064 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you for entering me in such a great giveaway. image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,356 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You may want to tell you mom not to shine it up for you.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭✭
    should come with a Fortune Cookie image

    i hope i'm wrong; Good Luck!!

    greg

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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I will buck the odds and say it will be a decent and real coin.
  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    It's close to Christmas so prolly one o' them there chocolate coins...
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I asked her to describe the design.......and it's deffinately a seated dollar. Real? I,m guessing not.

    JJ
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You will receive a small, velvet-lined wooden presentation box containing a PR67 Deep Cameo Seated Dollar with monster blue, magenta, and yellow toning, accompanied by an original hand-written presentation letter from the director of the mint addressed to a foreign dignitary of the 1840's. In your state of extreme shock, you will drop the coin on the floor, putting a rim ding on it that's so huge, the coin looks like Pac Man. image


    I voted for Chinese Fake.
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    so long as it isnt fake, you should be happy
    image

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Photo is in original post.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,356 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yup. A chinese fake.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    Raised dots in the breast shield? I'd weigh it.
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  • I sure don't know much about seated stuff, but it just doesn't look right...especially the reverse, and those dots in the shield area
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,093 ✭✭✭
    Looks fake to me.

    -Paul
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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    Fake
  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭
    nick in shield and @ 12 on the rev are classic tells. Fake
  • It's a fake 1842. It has 1846 stamped on it.
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    Yuk! Looks like one of those plastic immitation coins my kids used to play with.
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  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    Fake image the date looks completely wrong...
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry but it is not real...

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  • Counterfeit for sure! Sorry...
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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tell your mom's frand she can get 30 years in the pokey for counterfeiting. image


    Hoard the keys.
  • I just looked at 4 different graded 1846 dollars.

    2 of them had the same die crack on the reverse starting at D and going through STA.

    None of them had the 2 die lumps in the shield.

    I have no idea if its real or not.

    The first thing I would do is weigh the coin....................
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that coin is unrealimage
    Here is an 1846-CC if you need one.image
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry... but appears to be counterfeit. Cheers, RickO
  • I'm cleaning house- its spring time- what was the outcome of this one?
  • greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    Really ugly fake IMO.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,648 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Highly suspicious, I'm afraid.

    Not a screaming fake, at least. But I have a bad feeling about it.

    (Edit to add: 98% chance it's fake, by my odds.)

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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm cleaning house- its spring time- what was the outcome of this one? >>

    it's still fake

    K S
  • zeus135zeus135 Posts: 1,043
    What does it weigh?
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  • duck620duck620 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭✭
    looks real to me.image
  • MercMerc Posts: 1,646 ✭✭
    Fake coin. No need to weigh it, but if you do, it will be underweight. I have seen a bag full of fake seated dollars. I think the fakes are more common than the real ones.
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  • jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
    Things that you need to do:


    1. Weigh it.
    2. Measure it: Diameter.
    3. Drop it on a hard surface from about 2 inches up, you wont hurt it any more than it is already. This will help determine if it is at least silver.
    4. Report back the results.
    5. If you are more determined to authenticate then send it in to PCGS/NGC.

    My first reaction is that it looks real, but without it in hand I obviously cannot say for sure.

    edited to say that I did not see the raised dots prior to the comments above. Now I am very suspicious...might be fake.
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  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720
    It's fake.
    Whats crazy is that many forum members responding believe this may be real.

    Ray

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