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Underage party at home results in $200,000 in coins and paper money missing

From a TV station in Maine:

PITTSTON (NEWS CENTER) -- An under-age party in Pittston last month ended up with a burglary, in which almost $200,000 in cash, rare coins and old paper money was stolen from the homeowner's collection.


Kennebec County sheriff's detectives say their investigation led them to two men, Daniel Fortune and William Page Junior. The men were said to be on a Greyhound bus headed for North Carolina.

One suspect turned himself in, the other was arrested as he returned to Maine by bus.

Very little of the stolen coins and money was recovered. Apparently, everything was spent on crack cocaine.

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  • slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    hmmm....... you sure are up to date on coin robberies.... imageimage
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  • << <i>hmmm....... you sure are up to date on coin robberies.... imageimage >>




    Don't worry, if I was involved I wouldn't be broadcasting it here. image
  • So two men spent the $200k on crack? Geez. That's a lot of money to piss away.
  • wow thats alot of crack!!!!


    thatnks for all the postings on coin crimes. thats hilirious, 200000 worth of crack. mygod. i wonder what there teeth look like?

    i wonder how long the high was? thats the funniest coin crime ive heard in a while...



    thanks for a good laugh there...




    adam
  • Jeez, wasn't there another Party held by a daughter (like this one) that ended up with a large collection taken?

    I think you posted it several months ago as I recall.

    Daughters, Coins and drunken Parties don't mix.
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    Now, I'm glad I don't have a teenage daughter! I just have 4 sons to worry about!!!

    I'll have to show this to them.--Thanks
    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So two men spent the $200k on crack? Geez. That's a lot of money to piss away. >>



    Remember, they may have fenced them for less than $10K. They probably had no more idea what it was worth than the fence did.
  • "Remember, they may have fenced them for less than $10K. They probably had no more idea what it was worth than the fence did. "




    very good point, crack heads, rare coins, deep deep discounts. i have a 4yrold lilgirl, and am now sick to my stomach. errrrrrrrrrr. snip snip, i think...
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  • What's the cut-off age to have/attend a party?
    Just curious....
  • The sad part, besides the robbery, is that these 2 probably spent the coins for face value on crack. So maybe $500 worth or a little more. I was at the local crook(I mean B&M) the other day and saw him buy an 89-CC for $300 bucks in a PCGS slab from a person I would call the cops on just walking down my block. Paid him cash and didn't ask for ID either. Not sure what the grade was.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,412 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What's the cut-off age to have/attend a party?
    Just curious.... >>



    There is no age limit to attend a party unless alcohol is served in which case it's the legal drinking age for that state.

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  • << <i>Jeez, wasn't there another Party held by a daughter (like this one) that ended up with a large collection taken?

    I think you posted it several months ago as I recall.

    Daughters, Coins and drunken Parties don't mix. >>




    Yes, in Colorado. Dad was on vacation and the kid threw a party while he was away and he came home to find the collection missing.
  • The moral of the story is ...crack -out's don't pay....image
    ......Larry........image
  • curlycurly Posts: 2,880


    Makes me wonder how a yayhoo is dumb enough to throw an underage party yet smart enough to amass a $200,000 in coins and cash.

    This bird may have some rough questions ahead.
    Every man is a self made man.


  • << <i>Makes me wonder how a yayhoo is dumb enough to throw an underage party yet smart enough to amass a $200,000 in coins and cash.

    This bird may have some rough questions ahead. >>




    We don't know for sure but the person throwing the party might not have been the owner of the collection who could have
    been away at the time.
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure the adult owner of the collection was away.... that's when the teens throw the parties.
    ----- kj
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The reporter puts the blame on "underage party at home".

    How about "DRUG ADDICTS at party burglarize home of $200,000 in coins and paper money" ?

    The media doesn't know how to accurately report crimes anymore.
  • Burglary -unlawfully entering a dwelling or building, with the intent to commit a crime.

    Robbery -When, in the course of committing a theft, uses or threatens the use of physical force on another to accomplish the theft.

    Theft -Taking or exercises control over movable property of another with intent to deprive them thereof.

    In reality it is not a burglary or robbery, it is a simple theft. Robberies are very different than burglaries. It would qualify as a burglary if the suspects were not legally entitled to be in the house(as in they were not invited in, and just went inside)

    Just a FWIW and FYI.


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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Burglary -unlawfully entering a dwelling or building, with the intent to commit a crime.

    Robbery -When, in the course of committing a theft, uses or threatens the use of physical force on another to accomplish the theft.

    Theft -Taking or exercises control over movable property of another with intent to deprive them thereof.

    In reality it is not a burglary or robbery, it is a simple theft. Robberies are very different than burglaries. It would qualify as a burglary if the suspects were not legally entitled to be in the house(as in they were not invited in, and just went inside)

    Just a FWIW and FYI.


    Mike C >>



    That is a lot of ENGLISH lesson for me using one wrong word in the title, eh ?

    DRUG ADDICTS STEAL !!!
  • What dummy leaves a $200,000 collection at home? And even if he wants his collection at home, why not have it in a "simple" $2,000 safe? No mention of a safe crack? Just rock crack?
  • curlycurly Posts: 2,880


    Brothers....too many red flags for this old man. A party, $200,000 in cash, crack heads. The guy that lost that money better have his W-2s in order.
    Every man is a self made man.


  • << <i>What dummy leaves a $200,000 collection at home? And even if he wants his collection at home, why not have it in a "simple" $2,000 safe? No mention of a safe crack? Just rock crack? >>




    Happens all the time. People think "I live in a safe area, nothing bad happens around here".


  • << <i>Brothers....too many red flags for this old man. A party, $200,000 in cash, crack heads. The guy that lost that money better have his W-2s in order. >>


    Amen ..it's tough having to trust a teen these days or at any time for that matter when you go out with your wife for a while.Kids get together and talk and before you know it there's a crowd.It's an overwhelming responsibility of trust.
    You can hide you coins all you want but when the crowd comes in ..nothing is safe...
    ......Larry........image
  • Why do some posters here have to call the victim of a crime names or make fun of the victim?
    Even if the victim made a large mistake in judgement.

    Do not get me wrong--I do not mind seeing suggestions from the monday morning quarterbacks who post here.

    If the victim had no safe--- Why didnt the dummy have a safe?
    If the victim's safe was small---Why wasnt the dummy's safe bigger?
    If his big safe was robbed---Why didnt the dummy have an alarm system?
    If he had a SDB (safe deposit box) and got robbed on the way to bank---Why didnt the dummy bring protection?
    If victim's SDB gets compromised---Why did the dummy have his stuff in a better bank with better security?

    Also to those who think it was funny--I find nothing funny about any theft, robbery or burglary.

    I only wish the best for the victim and hope that the crook gets time in jail, gets killed or injured by someone who robs him of his stolen goods, or gets some good drugs and falls out a window.
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  • << <i>Why do some posters here have to call the victim of a crime names or make fun of the victim?
    Even if the victim made a large mistake in judgement.

    Do not get me wrong--I do not mind seeing suggestions from the monday morning quarterbacks who post here.

    If the victim had no safe--- Why didnt the dummy have a safe?
    If the victim's safe was small---Why wasnt the dummy's safe bigger?
    If his big safe was robbed---Why didnt the dummy have an alarm system?
    If he had a SDB (safe deposit box) and got robbed on the way to bank---Why didnt the dummy bring protection?
    If victim's SDB gets compromised---Why did the dummy have his stuff in a better bank with better security?

    Also to those who think it was funny--I find nothing funny about any theft, robbery or burglary.

    I only wish the best for the victim and hope that the crook gets time in jail, gets killed or injured by someone who robs him of his stolen goods, or gets some good drugs and falls out a window. >>




    If the guy had his collection in a decent safe, and it was compromised, thats bad luck and I feel for him. But if a person puts $200,000 worth of stuff in a dresser drawer, he is simply one of two things: either he is very wealthy, or very STUPID! Thats just a fact.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    you have 200,000 dollars to spend on a collection of neat stuff
    but are too lazy to get a safety deposit box or mammoth safe
    bolted down to your floor in your home...

    sigh!
  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "No mention of a safe crack?"

    I would guess most dopers wouldn't know where to begin to crack a safe. It is incomprehensible to me that anyone with a collection valued at 200K wouldn't have some security in place.

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein



  • << <i>"No mention of a safe crack?"

    I would guess most dopers wouldn't know where to begin to crack a safe. It is incomprehensible to me that anyone with a collection valued at 200K wouldn't have some security in place. >>




    Is incomprehensible a nice way of saying stupid? Haha.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,034 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love that they spent it all on crack......and decided that greyhound was the way to travel.
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    you guys seem to forget that crackheads would sell a 200k coin for 100 bucks, so dont sit there and think, "wow, how did they smoke 200k in crack" until you do the mathimage
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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ah Ha
    or so you might think !!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Don't worry, if I was involved I wouldn't be broadcasting it here. image



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  • I'm thinking that the theme to this story is that you shouldn't keep valuable coins and paper monies in your house, especially when there is a possibility that guests may be there.
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm thinking that the theme to this story is that you shouldn't keep valuable coins and paper monies in your house, especially when there is a possibility that guests may be there. >>



    ...especially if you have teenage kids!!!
    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure if there is any connection to the previous robbery reported in the OP, but this very same individual was once again a victim of a brutal home invasion, at the very same residence late Monday night. He and his eleven year old daughter were taken by helicopter to a local hospital, where they were both reported in critical condition. Several other family members who were present in the home were apparently uninjured. No suspects have been arrested as of this time.

    The complete story can be seen here:

    http://www.necn.com/Boston/New-England/Pittston-ME-police-search-for-suspects-in-vicious-home/1211901212.html

    I cannot help but recall, after the previous robbery, the homeowner appearing on local (Maine) TV news reports, showing numerous coins from his collection which were apparently not stolen in the previous robbery, and thinking "What is this guy doing?!!". He is announcing to the entire world that he has more valuable coins in his possession just waiting to be stolen. Again, I have no idea what the motive for this horrible home invasion might have been, but the victim could have been a bit more discrete about what the previous robbers left behind.

    I certainly hope that the homeowner and his daughter have a full recovery from their injuries, and that the bastages who perpetrated this horrible crime are quickly found and brought to justice.
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • onejinxonejinx Posts: 299
    I saw that on the local news here in NH about the family. Nothing like advertsing the first crooks didn't take it all.
  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    That was one expensive party
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    I hope they recover.

    It is a shame that you got to hide everthing you own, tie it down, chain it up to keep others from taking it from you. Sometimes i wonder whats the point in having nice things if you can not enjoy them.

    One of these days i am going to quit leaving the keys in the corvette, grand national, monte carlo ss, neon, truck, dump truck, and bulldozer. Just as soon as i can find my house keys. I finally bought a safe and got a safety deposit box in the same week.image
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I hope they recover.

    It is a shame that you got to hide everthing you own, tie it down, chain it up to keep others from taking it from you. Sometimes i wonder whats the point in having nice things if you can not enjoy them.

    One of these days i am going to quit leaving the keys in the corvette, grand national, monte carlo ss, neon, truck, dump truck, and bulldozer. Just as soon as i can find my house keys. I finally bought a safe and got a safety deposit box in the same week.image >>



    too bad for those that are caught doing such vicious crimes they cannot
    be put down in a reasonable fashion permenantly. also texas is going
    the right path by allowing people to own and use guns in their castle.

    the US has given too many rights and passes to vicious criminals.
    our jails are full of them. if %5 of them were simply put down the
    rest might get the picture of no tolerance for heinous crimes.

    (vicious and heinous means murder, robbery and voilence mixed, etc..
    not shoplifting or stealing a car).

    as a side note i was at the library today. i was walking in the door
    and watching a white male on a bike shouting to himself. just looking
    at him resulted in him threatening me with a beating and several
    nasty verbal attacks. part of me was thinking boy would it not be nice
    to have a policeman around or a very large bat to take out my thoughts
    and feelings on his skull. but alas, i would goto jail and the cop would
    probably want to scold him and send him on his way to find his drug score.
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    If anyone is interested in this ongoing story, this was today's headline:

    PITTSTON, Maine -- Police said they've arrested an 18-year-old man on an elevated aggravated assault charge stemming from an attack on a Pittston man and his 10-year-old daughter that left both in critical condition.

    Kennebec County Sheriff Randall Liberty said Thursday that bail's been set at $1 million for Leo Hilton of Augusta, who is being held at the Kennebec County Jail in Augusta.

    He's scheduled for a hearing on Friday.

    Hilton is charged in the attack early Tuesday at the home of William Guerrette Jr., who is a former state legislator, and his daughter Nicole.

    Police say both remained in critical condition Thursday.
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin

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