Souvenir 1855 $50 Kellogg Coin!

StopMotion

Bought this in a group of counterfeit coins from a forum member.

What do you think. Weight 26.7 grams.
Thanks,
Harrison
Stop Motion

fc

i do not know how to describe the feeling it gives me but it looks "light" and obviously fake. i never saw a gold coin that looked like that.

brass?

GoldenEyeNumismatics

That's actually a pretty decent looking fake.

GoldenEyeNumismatics

<< <i>i do not know how to describe the feeling it gives me but it looks "light" and obviously fake. i never saw a gold coin that looked like that.

brass? >>

probably gilted, whatever it is.

StopMotion

<< <i>i do not know how to describe the feeling it gives me but it looks "light" and obviously fake. i never saw a gold coin that looked like that.

brass? >>



I'm in the dark on this one. It's an interesting coin, at least for me! Does anybody know the weight in grams of a Genuine coin?
Harrison
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gecko109

Should be 2.5 times what a double eagle weighs. Roughly since this is .887 and the double eagle is .900

STONE

The details on this coin are too squared and precise while originals seem to flow.

I think, although the details and planchet look good, it is a very obvious fake which shouldn't be able to fool too many people.

StopMotion

Also, look at her headband and compare to a Real Kellogg!
SM

JZrarities

Facial features are all wrong.

StopMotion

<< <i>Facial features are all wrong. >>



Correct, also!
SM

StopMotion

Forgot to add it weighs 26.7 grams, way underweight!
SM

Frankcoins

Brass. Not deceptive. The real ones say FIFTY DOLLS.

StopMotion

<< <i>The real ones say FIFTY DOLLS. >>



Also, correct!

CaptHenway

That's an old die-struck replica, sufficiently changed from the original to be legal in the pre-Hobby Protection Act (1973) days.
TD

53BKid

So, did you get your $ back?

PerryHall

Looks struck from hand engraved dies. Not even close to what the real coin looks like.

commoncents05

I wouldn't even call that a counterfeit. It was clearly not made to deceive anyone and does not imitate the original.

-Paul

RWB

Many varieties of imitation California gold exist – all denominations; round, hexagonal, etc. Dozens more were issued by token makers during the Panama-Pacific International Exposition. When the exposition commemorative coins were planned, treasury officials were unclear about which California pieces were legal tender and which were private bullion – some thought the US Assay Office slugs were US coin and others thought not.

EagleEye

Just check the denomination "Fifty". It's a souvenier shop piece, not a counterfeit.

StopMotion

<< <i>Just check the denomination "Fifty". It's a souvenier shop piece, not a counterfeit. >>



Thanks for all the import guys! Thats why I posted, wasn't really sure if it was a "Real" Counterfeit or just a replica piece.
Thanks again!
Harrison
SM