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When is a corrosion spot good?

jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭✭✭
I guess this is a riddle, but I don't know the answer.

I'm selling a mostly full red item on eBay at the moment that has one obvious spot visible in my pictures and also highlighted in my writeup. I got a question from a potential bidder who asked, "What is the -spot-? A physical dent or an external mark as from a pen or other stain?"

I responded that it looked like corrosion. Based on that answer, I assumed he wouldn't be bidding. When I look back today, he's the high bidder by a significant amount (the second-place bidder is running up the bidding -- thanks! image)

Anyone have a guess why "It looks like corrosion" would be a good answer to receive from a seller?

I may try to follow up with the bidder after the close of the auction, but who knows if he'll respond. Right now, I don't have a clue.

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  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭

    Perhaps he would have bid even higher if it were not corrosion.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    The corrosion isn't good, the honest answer was.

    Russ, NCNE
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beats me! Corrosion means damage plain and simple. Well.... at least in regards to SPOT type corrosion. If you are considering knockout rainbow toning as 'corrosion' then I would call that type of corrosion GOOD.
    ----- kj
  • He might think that conservation can get rid of corrosion while a dent would be permanentimage
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭✭
    >>Anyone have a guess why "It looks like corrosion" would be a good answer to receive from a seller?>>


    i dont know but if i had to hazzard a guess, it might verify authenticity......on something like Trade Dollars that are commonly mass produced (China) in blast white it might be welcoming to see some "real coin problems" on a piece

    greg

    www.brunkauctions.com

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't want to annoy the forum police by posting a link to an auction in progress, but here is the pic. The word under the spot is LUCKINESS. Actual diameter of the token is 30mm, which puts the spot at a bit over 1mm. Looks like a spot to me...
    image
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    image >>



    OUCH! image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    when it is not on a coin that you own


  • << <i>Anyone have a guess why "It looks like corrosion" would be a good answer to receive from a seller? >>



    Perhaps the bidder thinks he can remove a corrosion spot - whereas a dent or something else isn't 'fixable'.
  • it was your honesty that answered his question. he wants the coinimage
    my ebay items BST transactions/swaps/giveaways with: Tiny, raycyca,mrpaseo, Dollar2007,Whatafind, Boom, packers88, DBSTrader2, 19Lyds, Mar327, pontiacinf, ElmerFusterpuck.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The piece says "be sure that I am on the spot". And here we have a spot on the "I" of "LUCKINESS". Surely, this is a sign that this good luck piece has true powers. How can someone not bid?
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • I agree with the honesty part- I personally am reassured when I feel someone is giving me a straightforward answer.

    Corrosion, however, is NOT a good thing.
    "College men from LSU- went in dumb, come out dumb too..."
    -Randy Newmanimage
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 2,012 ✭✭✭
    I like spots on gold - they add character and are a good indicator of original surfaces.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i'm not what i'd consider the forum police and i even conseider jonathan to be a friend and collegue, but.................should someone really be posting about their own coin that's currently in auction??? the answer has always been an emphatic no and several other members have been roundly castigated for doing the same thing.

    jonathan, your pretty smart so i can't figure out why you didn't frame the question in such a way as to not draw attention to your auction.


  • << <i>i'm not what i'd consider the forum police and i even conseider jonathan to be a friend and collegue, but.................should someone really be posting about their own coin that's currently in auction??? the answer has always been an emphatic no and several other members have been roundly castigated for doing the same thing.

    jonathan, your pretty smart so i can't figure out why you didn't frame the question in such a way as to not draw attention to your auction. >>




    Im not an authority on the rules and ettiquette of posting in this forum Keets, and I very much enjoy your posts, and even the private PM's we have had. But it needs to be pointed out, the irony of your post with the link at the bottom, of your items for sale. Just found that a tad humorous!
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    'm not what i'd consider the forum police and i even conseider jonathan to be a friend and collegue, but.................should someone really be posting about their own coin that's currently in auction??? the answer has always been an emphatic no and several other members have been roundly castigated for doing the same thing.

    Given the extremely low value of this piece, I think we can rule out greed and SSP as the motive behind the OP.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    But it needs to be pointed out, the irony of your post with the link at the bottom, of your items for sale. Just found that a tad humorous!

    no irony there whatsoever, but by your admitted ignorance of the rules you wouldn't know that. starting a thread about an item of yours which is currently for sale is a horse of a different color. take my word for it, others have done what jonathan has done and some of the respondents within this thread have been those who assailed the transgressor.

    that's what's so great about this place, the cronyism!!!imageimage

    Given the extremely low value of this piece, I think we can rule out greed and SSP as the motive behind the OP.

    so i'm left to assume that at some pre-determined value it becomes OK to do this??
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  • Sorry Keets, but to me, advertising is advertising. Jonathon did it with one single post on an item he didnt even give specific links or item numbers on. You do it everytime you reply to any thread with your link. Those "horses" dont really appear to be too much different in color, at least to me.
  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The piece says "be sure that I am on the spot". And here we have a spot on the "I" of "LUCKINESS". Surely, this is a sign that this good luck piece has true powers. How can someone not bid? >>

    I think Andy wins the prize for "Logical answer that is least likely to be what the buyer had in mind..." image



    << <i>I like spots on gold - they add character and are a good indicator of original surfaces. >>

    I like that answer. It's not relevent in this particular case, but it's a real good answer to the question in the title, and one that I hadn't considered. Thanks, Artist!



    << <i>i can't figure out why you didn't frame the question in such a way as to not draw attention to your auction. >>

    I dunno... Short of a silly circumlocution ("I have a friend who sold an item once...") I don't see how I could get less specific than I did. It probably is relevent that the question was raised in the context of an eBay listing, so I couldn't leave that part out. I suppose Maybe I should have waited until the listing ended? Maybe, but I was thinking about it now, and even if I didn't have a lousy memory I know that tomorrow is going to be very busy for me. Also, there was a chance that someone would come up with a reason for me to follow up before the listing ended with the person who asked the original question.

    There are probably dozens (hundreds?) of board members who have active listings on eBay at any given time. I think I can give enough credit to folks not to bother tracking down the listings of every board member who mentions eBay in passing.

    (And FWIW I don't have a problem with a tactful signature-line link, either, as in Keets's messages. Of course, that's because I seem to have trained myself to ignore signature lines entirely. I've missed a few good deals from board members because I didn't notice their sig lines. Oh, well!)

    Advertising? - BAD
    Asking a broader question that was prompted by an unidentified listing? - COME ON, NOW...
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    so i'm left to assume that at some pre-determined value it becomes OK to do this??

    It's not for me to say what's OK with you, but it's OK with me. To me, intent is everything.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well forgetting about the forum etiquette for a brief moment, I like to learn things here and usually do with the great knowledgeable members that we have, to me that doesn't look like corrosion at all, I realize it is a photo and I may not being seeing things accurately from a photo but to my undiscerning newbee eye it looks like a blackish spot of something alright but not indicative of corrosion. I have seen carbon spots on silver that look similar or black tar/goonk on old copper but this doesn't have that three dimensional look. Can't this be a toning spot that is not eating away at the coin but added to the metal as toning is known to do, it seems very round almost too round to be corrosion and I do not see any green or verdigris or anything that resembles what I typicially see as corrosion. Can someone help me understand what it could and could not be, I need to learn this stuff, thanks. >>

    Interesting questions. I still don't thik it's a dent or ink, but I suppose it could be something other than corrosion. Here's the best I can do for a close-up:
    image
    My read is that there is some foreign substance in the center of the spot (on the lower leg of the K), and that the spot has grown outward from that bit of crud. Is a carbon spot different from corrosion?
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    well, i'm willing to just move along. the main reason for my post was because it seemed like the OP knew/knows that what he did is a bit frowned upon and against our self-imposed rules, despite the non-inclusion of a link to the auction. it just seems to me that the nature of how this place works begs us not to step onto the slippery slope.

    with all that said, i realize i've run afoul of the rules and the moderators with OT threads in the past, even being taken to task by some purists who think i shouldn't post about medals here because it's the U.S. Coin forum. even Andy got in trouble a few years ago because he inundated page one with threads!!! oh, well, we each have our weak moments and although it's aggravating at times, it's good that somebody steps in to shake us.

    now, post on....................
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that looks to me like a typical Carbon spot.
  • keets get a life

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