ToplineCoins, King of all AT early coinage...out of business????

Goldbully

These coins really jump out at you.

Just look at these colorful coins from a color-enhancer seller.

Do you agree or disagree??

ps. Been a while since the last Topline thread.....








Tonight's Array of Color Coins

Buyers are lined up in groves!!!!!!!!!!!!

tightbudget

The coins do jump up to me...whoever altered them must really be f**ked up.

ChrisRx

RUINED COINS

DJCoinz

You dissin' the name topline?

Zoins

Kings get their work into the right plastic.

Bullish

It's ashame

ricko

Ah... graduate work from 'medical school'.... No doubt there are 'toners' out there that will buy them... Cheers, RickO

Goldbully

This Topline 1916-D Mercury dime sold for $6598 on Nov. 24, 2007

Buyer was jj8198






eBay Link


I decided to check the buyer's feedback on 12/16/07 to Topline: "Very nice Coin, can't wait to see what NGC Grades this Beauty. A+ Deal Great Buy"


Linky



I will post another Topline feedback from Hell soon!!!!!!!!!

Goldbully

I love this, I love this, I love this...........................................



Imagine you just bought a 1955/55 Lincoln Penny "Double Die Obverse" Choice BU + "Topline Toning" for good measure.

Check her out....................................






Now, how pumped would you be????????

Well, this eBay buyer 'bucksthings' bought said "Topline Toned" 1955/55 for $1843......his feedback has been recorded for eBay posterity and goes like this:

***fairly nice coin***


eBay Link

tightbudget

<< <i>This Topline 1916-D Mercury dime sold for $6598 on Nov. 24, 2007

Buyer was jj8198






eBay Link


I decided to check the buyer's feedback on 12/16/07 to Topline: "Very nice Coin, can't wait to see what NGC Grades this Beauty. A+ Deal Great Buy"


Linky



I will post another Topline feedback from Hell soon!!!!!!!!! >>



Added mintmark. NGC will back it for that instead of the doctoring I think. I think the 55 DDO might be fake too, but I'm not positive.

Goldbully

I just developed a new descriptor for toplinecoins' eBay coins....."Four color rainbow finger-printed faux finished toned" early coinage.


Topline, are you listening???







La Link

Raybo

TLC has been under my skin since I first viewed his coins.
I think he might be in kahoots with more than one ebayer, maybe a ripoff cartelle?

Ray

cyclonus11

Coin not authentic, but thanks for honoring the return. An honest seller here.
1874 S Trade Dollar Very Choice BU (#330191969837)

Well, at least they'll refund you once you figure them out. That has to count for something, right?

Doogy

<< <i>Coin not authentic, but thanks for honoring the return. An honest seller here.
1874 S Trade Dollar Very Choice BU (#330191969837)

Well, at least they'll refund you once you figure them out. That has to count for something, right? >>





.....but the ones that figure that out are the very slim minority. the vast majority of his victims are probably starry eyed newbies, thinking they have scored a numismatic prize. Many will only find out when it comes time to sell to a legit dealer, then the bomb is dropped

NumisOxide

Nasty.

cyclonus11

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<< <i>Coin not authentic, but thanks for honoring the return. An honest seller here.
1874 S Trade Dollar Very Choice BU (#330191969837)

Well, at least they'll refund you once you figure them out. That has to count for something, right? >>





.....but the ones that figure that out are the very slim minority. the vast majority of his victims are probably starry eyed newbies, thinking they have scored a numismatic prize. Many will only find out when it comes time to sell to a legit dealer, then the bomb is dropped >>


Yep. He makes more than enough from ripping off his customers that he can afford full refunds. Because of that, people are less likely to leave non-positive feedback like the buyer I quoted, and people will continue to buy from him because of his decent feedback rating.

percyb

<< <i>The coins do jump up to me...whoever altered them must really be f**ked up. >>

Or taking hallucinagens or both

grote15

Unfortunately, there seems to always be a never-ending supply of bidders who will bid on these doctored coins just because of the toning. For every buyer that calls the seller out, there are ten that do not, making it a very profitable enterprise.

Goldbully

<< <i>I just developed a new descriptor for toplinecoins' eBay coins....."Four color rainbow finger-printed faux finished toned" early coinage.


Topline, are you listening???







La Link >>



Are you kidding me...........$532???????

Linky

grote15

Geez, no wonder these guys keep baking these coins!

Goldbully

Oh, my God!!!.....








eBay Linky

Goldbully

<< <i>Oh, my God!!!.....








eBay Linky >>




Sold!!! $723.00

Edscoin

The bad thing about it, some of these look to have been nice coins before he screwed them up.

ricko

When will people come to their sense about toning? It is, basically, a fad. With the exception of some very knowledgeable collectors, who, early on, began to admire the natural progression of surface degradation due to environmental effects, most 'toners' are new collectors who have been caught up in the fad and pay ridiculously high prices for doctored coins. Make no mistake, the majority are doctored.. and so well, they fool the experts. Too bad really. Cheers, RickO

Goldbully

<< <i>When will people come to their sense about toning? It is, basically, a fad. With the exception of some very knowledgeable collectors, who, early on, began to admire the natural progression of surface degradation due to environmental effects, most 'toners' are new collectors who have been caught up in the fad and pay ridiculously high prices for doctored coins. Make no mistake, the majority are doctored.. and so well, they fool the experts. Too bad really. Cheers, RickO >>




Thanks RickO, very astute comments.

Goldbully

Check out one of Top's latest offering.................1859 Seated Liberty Half Dollar Choice GEM Proof.

How does he continue to hoodwink the coin community????

Bid at over $1,000??? Why are people so stupid???????

Glassy surfaces!!!!!!!!!!






eBay Link

Broadstruck

I just know this seller from the Hunter Green and Midnight Blue Oregon Trail Commem's as over a dozen have sold on Ebay and they all looked like the where baked on the same cookie sheet.

Broadstruck

tightbudget, Wow the "D" on that Merc is shocking as that should have screamed at high volumes "Don't Bid"... but then it's Ebay.

AskRaq

Uh, didn't this seller used to use a bright yellow background?? Or am I thinking of another one....?

Goldbully

Just Hammered

Zoins

I decided to save info on a couple of Topline coins for posterity though I couldn't find the auctions for prominently toned coins in the OP.





Here's an interesting one:

ricko

Some of those coins may be quite good if dipped... remove the garbage... Cheers, RickO

Bigfish

Hi gang. I'm new in town.

I bought a proof coin from topline. When I got it, it didn't look anything like the photo. I figured it was just the lighting he used to take the image. A couple of weeks ago I sent it to be graded. I haven't got the coin back yet but they emailed me and said that it was graded as PR94, surfaces altered. I emailed topline twice but haven't heard anything. I suspect that I won't either. If you haven't figured it out already I'm new at this.

Any suggestions?

jmj3esq

Looks like he is losing his touch. That is some bad color.

wayneherndon

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<< <i>Coin not authentic, but thanks for honoring the return. An honest seller here.
1874 S Trade Dollar Very Choice BU (#330191969837)

Well, at least they'll refund you once you figure them out. That has to count for something, right? >>





.....but the ones that figure that out are the very slim minority. the vast majority of his victims are probably starry eyed newbies, thinking they have scored a numismatic prize. Many will only find out when it comes time to sell to a legit dealer, then the bomb is dropped >>



Actually, then, they think the legit dealer is trying to rip them off.

WH

Russ

Bigfish,

Welcome to the forums. Sorry to hear that you got hosed.

Russ, NCNE

jmski52

Is it only obvious to me that this coin has been pretty well-whizzed before he introduced his chemical stew?

Goldbully

<< <i>Hi gang. I'm new in town.

I bought a proof coin from topline. When I got it, it didn't look anything like the photo. I figured it was just the lighting he used to take the image. A couple of weeks ago I sent it to be graded. I haven't got the coin back yet but they emailed me and said that it was graded as PR94, surfaces altered. I emailed topline twice but haven't heard anything. I suspect that I won't either. If you haven't figured it out already I'm new at this.

Any suggestions? >>




Sorry BigFish, TopLine does have a bottom line......hook, line and sinker!!

You will learn from this....any word from the Topster???

options26

<< <i>Hi gang. I'm new in town.

I bought a proof coin from topline. When I got it, it didn't look anything like the photo. I figured it was just the lighting he used to take the image. A couple of weeks ago I sent it to be graded. I haven't got the coin back yet but they emailed me and said that it was graded as PR94, surfaces altered. I emailed topline twice but haven't heard anything. I suspect that I won't either. If you haven't figured it out already I'm new at this.

Any suggestions? >>



Welcome to the forum. IF you paid by credit card or paypal, do not wait to file your dispute. They usually hope to wait until enough time has past and you can't dispute it. If you do, they will gladly issue a refund to save their feedback rating. But they will not respond until you dispute the claim.

silverpop

Those are some very horrible colored coins

GrumpyEd

With coins like that a safe assumption is that if it wasn't doctored it would already be in a real TPG holder.

CHAMELEON

I think that Topline auctions normally close with a bid that is too high for quality of coin that is being sold. I bought from him one time and was pleased. I got a problem free 1924-S buffalo nickel in very nice VF for $100, and later sold it to someone who paid $250 for it and was very pleased with it. Occasionally he has some nice coins mixed in, but a whole lot of his stuff looks cleaned or altered. I wouldn't bid too high on most of his stuff if you are going to do business with him.

Chameleon Coins Ebay Auctions
Chameleon Coins Website

coinsarefun

That's just WRONG



Stefanie

nutz4coinz

Broadstruck, you got to do something with that 'doublestruck woman' till I am officially off my meds....thats freaking me out, man!! LOL

Bigfish

The problem is that I bought the coin last year but didn't send it to PCGS until March/08. Ebay suggested that I file a mail fraud complaint with the USPS, which I did.

ricko

Welcome to the forum Bigfish.. sorry to hear you were taken.... Those coins are just examples of advanced - and enhanced - metallic decomposition... some people call it toning. You throw away fruit when that happens, but many people keep coins that are decomposing and even enjoy the rot.. no accounting for taste... Cheers, RickO

Bigfish

No word from topline. I filed a mail fraud complaint with the USPS. Right now I'm trying to decide if I should go on a legal "crusade" and do the lawyer thing. I only got beat for about $900, not to brag but that's really peanuts to me. I've had over 400 transactions on ebay without a problem and I've bought some pretty expensive stuff, original artworks and some awesome guitars. I'm trying to decide if I should be a man of principle, or just forget the whole thing. It may be a coincidence but he stopped listing coins for sale when I informed him of the problem. That's a good thing.

Goldbully

Holy Cow, is toplinecoins finally out of business??? No sales since May!!!

Or, is he waiting for the opportune time to get back in the AT coin game???

Link to topline

Goldbully

<< <i>I decided to save info on a couple of Topline coins for posterity though I couldn't find the auctions for prominently toned coins in the OP.





Here's an interesting one:

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Worth another look....thanks to Zoins.

lcoopie

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