Why have the quarters for Districts, Territories and Commonwealths failed to gain approval?
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1. What are the officially stated reasons?
2. What are the real reasons?
2. What are the real reasons?
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It probably hasn't passed because these areas have no representatives in Congress to push the program.
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<< <i>It probably hasn't passed because these areas have no representatives in Congress to push the program. >>
And also few anywhere else for that matter.
And as mentioned it is a state program.
If it does pass, I will not worry about "collecting" them and consider the State Quarter collection complete with Hawaii.
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<< <i>It probably hasn't passed because these areas have no representatives in Congress to push the program. >>
Rich...I do believe they have representatives in Congress, but they are non voting reps. At least DC does....
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<< <i>It probably hasn't passed because these areas have no representatives in Congress to push the program. >>
Rich...I do believe they have representatives in Congress, but they are non voting reps. At least DC does.... >>
I stand corrected. These areas have no voting representatives in Congress to push the program.
Thank you for pointing out my error!
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I am glad.....
Aren't Virginia and Massachusetts both commonwealths?
I bet they mark the final year of the state program with a sigh - and then come out with a big announcement about how its being extended to include Guam, USVI, DC, Puerto Rico, American Samoa - and maybe even the Philippines (formerly a US territory)...maybe even one representing Native Americans
Though they are not states - there are related constituencies that have a lot of power - especially among Veterans groups...
Moreover - though many of the territories and DC have non-voting reps in Congress....those areas do hold primaries in the political parties - they so send delegates to the conventions...
For example - citizens of Puerto Rican origin in NYC pay attention to endorsements by Puerto Rican leaders and so forth...
Just an educated guess...I'd be amazed if at least DC, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam and USVI don't get quarters - that works out nicely too - 5 extra quarters for 2009.
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HR 392 is the bill authorizing commemorative quarters for the "extra 5"-it was passed by the house (voice vote) in Jan. It is currently in the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. The majority of bills don't make it out of committee.
FWIW, DC, Guam, American Samoa, US Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico all have nonvoting Reps (referred to as delegates, save for PR-known as Resident Commissioner-who is elected to a 4, rather than 2 year term). They can't cast deciding votes on floor bills, but can serve and vote in committees. Several US states were represented by territorial delegates in congress prior to admission. The status of these delegates has been a point of contention in the house, as the rules of the house were changed in the 104th congress stripping them of right to serve in the committee of the whole (where amendments are added and bills debated), and restored with the current congress. The votes to rescind and restore this committee status were largely along party lines.
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did honor them, they couldn't be considered a part of the "50 states program" but still a part of the United States.
I would guess that the the Northern Mariana Islands are rather obscure to most Americans if they have even heard of them at all.
<< <i>I'm sick of seeing them. Time to move on. What's the design after the SQs? Same old GW side mugshot? How about the mint do something creative with the quarter starting in 2009 with a nice non dead president design that doesn't have a changing reverse 5 times a year? >>
I agree heartily. The quarter is a fairly large coin and provides a nice design opportunity. I would love to see an entirely new design without a DP. I am not going to hold my breath though...
<< <i>I'm sick of seeing them. Time to move on. What's the design after the SQs? Same old GW side mugshot? How about the mint do something creative with the quarter starting in 2009 with a nice non dead president design that doesn't have a changing reverse 5 times a year? >>
Fear not. Before you know it they'll fade away.
They'lll be more than 50% of the quarters in circulation by the end
of the program but in twenty years a lot of them will have been lost
or destroyed and whatever replaces them and the older quarters
will greatly outnumber them.
<< <i>I would guess that the the Northern Mariana Islands are rather obscure to most Americans if they have even heard of them at all. >>
I've heard of CNMI. They're part of the US that issued the Freedom Dollars.