Which would you keep and why - part 2

tradedollarnut

Again - if I were to sell my sets I'd like to keep a momento coin to form the basis of a type set. Which of the following would you keep and why?

The Congressman Jimmy Hayes 1866 [PCGS MS67]. Tied for finest graded of all With Motto coins, it has sultry surfaces but lacks full rolling luster.


The LK Rudolf 1868 [PCGS MS66]. Tied for finest graded of the date with a lone MS64 under it, the coin has an amazing combination of rolling luster and frost on Liberty! Very very flashy.


The James A Stack 1871-CC [PCGS MS64]. Tied for finest graded of the date with the Norweb NGC coin. Probably too expensive and low grade to keep as a type coin, but I fell in love with it the second I saw its image. A myriad of marks and die polish lines in the obverse field limit the grade.

Colorfulcoins

Eye appeal, 71-CC. Keeper, the 1868. Your descriptions also seems to indicate that you favor that coin too....

STONE

I'm a big fan of the all white 1868.

braddick

I've got to go with the 1868 too. Amazing luster that I bet really flashes in hand.

RYK

I would keep the 71-CC because you fell in love with it and because of the Carson City branch mint origin. Second place would be the 1866. '

Of course, like the other hypothetical , there is no right or wrong answer.

Ronyahski

1866. MS67 sounds good in a type set. Plus, if I were doing a type set, it would be toned and not white.

MrEureka

I'd keep the 71-CC.

I definitely wouldn't keep the 1866, as there's a better one out there. (Superior, May 1991)

options26

I agree with you. I love the 71-CC, but if you were only keeping one, thats a lot of money tied up into that coin and a low grade for a type set. I would say keep the 68.

coinpictures

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Obviously the 1868. The others need to be dipped.

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tradedollarnut

<< <i>I'd keep the 71-CC.

I definitely wouldn't keep the 1866, as there's a better one out there. (Superior, May 1991) >>



I suppose that's a matter of opinion, as I've held both in my hand and prefer the Hayes specimen. While the other coin has superior luster, it has many more marks and a much weaker strike. Also, I'm a sucker for periphrial toning.

Sunshine Rare Coins

I would keep the 71 CC, but why would you sell your sets?

bennybravo

The 1868 just looks like a Monster.Gotta go with the flashiest if I'm keeping just one.

Sunshine Rare Coins

If you sell your sets, how about giving one of your coins away for a 16,000 post givaway!!!

Aegis3

Why not the 73-CC?

Broadstruck

The James A Stack 1871-CC [PCGS MS64] as it's the kind of coin from this trio that makes your knees shake just viewing it.

Darn tough choice as the The Congressman Jimmy Hayes 1866 [PCGS MS67] does too, Oh Boy what a coin!

TDN... JUST SAY NO and tell Mr. Simpson to not put you through this agony and start his own set.

NumisOxide

The 1868 looks really frosty. That would be the one!

KentuckyJ

I would keep the 71. It would look great with the 54 of your earlier thread. The 66 is nice but I find the spot on the cheek a bit distracting.

KJ

mgoodm3

71. It looks good and it's a CC

Stuart

TDN: I am going to diverge a bit from the thesis of this thread, and ask a question about which I've often wondered.

What motivation is there for an advanced nuismatist, to own a superlatively high grade mint state example of a Seated Liberty Dollar (or other series) at greater cost, than a more technically well (double) struck proof that may also possess cameo proof contrast, etc at lower cost.

Is the motivation for an advanced collector like you to have the highest grade example in existence (i.e. Registry Set mentality) or to have the [most beautiful example of the coin that you can find (or both)?

I am looking forward to your reply.

(P.S. I like the L.K. Rudolf 1868 SLD because of its cameo contrast with great cartwheel luster & Semi-PL to Pl SUrfaces, and because it is the only one of the three coins in which the full radial lines of the stars are completely struck and detailed.)

speety

Of the ones listed, i gotta go with the 71-cc.

Why didn't you list the 73-cc or 70-s as choices, i think your 73-cc may be the best seated dollar out there!

DRUNNER

The 1866. Peripheral toning, eye appeal ++++++++ (I feel like Gus Tiso), and high grade.

Sweet coins to see . . . .thanks.

Drunner

MidLifeCrisis

<< <i>The James A Stack 1871-CC [PCGS MS64]...I fell in love with it the second I saw its image. >>


That says it all to me, especially since you want to keep a coin as a momento. If this coin really turns your crank, ya gotta keep it!

ColonialCoinUnion

They're all fantastic (again), but I'd be inclined to keep the 66. I personally agree with re the relatively lower grade on the 71-CC, and the 68 is whiter than I'd ideally like.

roadrunner

Can I wait until the 1849 is available.....I'm a sucker for early dates.


As far as Stuart's question goes, I too made the choice of sticking with gem MS seated over the proofs because simply stated they are rarer as a rule. With mint marked pieces or pre-1858 Philly pieces, you really don't have common proofs mucking up the rarity issue.
For seated dollars, gem proofs abound, yet gem MS pieces do not.
That sums it up.

roadrunner

jmski52

The 1868. Nuf' said. Hey TDN, thanks for the show!

Julian

I am a little partial, as I sold the 1866 to Jimmy for $700 in 1972. I would keep that one, but in all honesty, it does belong with the set. If you are going to sell the set, Bruce, make a clean break and include it with the balance of the coins.

LindeDad

I sure like the true rariety of 1376 total minted on that one.

IRCWCoins

I would have a hard time choosing between the '66 and '68, but I would probably go with the 1868. The 1866 looks like it has a slightly weaker strike.