MS 67 My Butt if this coin is a 67 i will eat one of my two 63 and worst!!!

Whatafind

I just do not belive that PCGS would grade this coin MS 67.
I would like to Ask MR. Hall how this coin makes a 67.
How do i sent my coins in to to have them regraded up to MS 67 bull
68 or better 68.
This is the second time that i seen them over grade One of this guys coins.
Could be the same coin!
i just can not belive. Link!Text

Russ

You should be very careful about disparaging that particular seller.

Russ, NCNE

mrpotatoheadd

I'm thinking it would be tough to confirm the grade on that one based on the picture in the auction listing.

Broadstruck

I don't get it... $8100 for a 2004 Statehood Quarter

Whatafind

Why Russ ? Because some people get better service than some small dealer or collectors.
Hay man i have to stand up and tell people, like friends and love ones!
You can trust PCGS
With Out Question!

GoldenEyeNumismatics

<< <i>I just do not belive that PCGS would grade this coin MS 67.
I would like to Ask MR. Hall how this coin makes a 67.
How do i sent my coins in to to have them regraded up to MS 67 bull
68 or better 68.
This is the second time that i seen them over grade One of this guys coins.
Could be the same coin!
i just can not belive. Link!Text >>



Couple of things:

first of all, you don't know if any of those marks are actually on the holder, and not the coin.
secondly, they marks may have been exaggerated by the scan
third, the coin could have fantastic luster, it just doesn't show in the scans.

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RichieURich

To me, the picture is too small to be able to tell much of anything about the coin.

However, for $8,100 or more, you could get a coin that's legitimately rare, not a coin with nearly 10,000 known and slabbed.

coinkid855

Ouch.


lol

GritsMan

<< <i>And fourth please start using the English language a lot better, what country are you from? English only is used here buddy. >>



Anywon criticizin' the Anglesh Langwij hear is throwin' roks in a glass houz!

Whatafind

Hey! Realone !
Buddy Boy! I am not your buddy and i am not a typist, nor do i want to be.
I have a life! Mr English Professor.

malachi555

How could you possibly tell from those little pictures?

GrumpyEd

Can't tell much from those photos.

Whatafind

Click on pic! Enlarges ! And takes up whole screen!

BlindedByEgo

<< <i>Hey! Realone !
Buddy Boy! I am not your buddy and i am not a typist, nor do i want to be.
I have a life! Mr English Professor. >>





Sure do get smoe interesting folks here.

coinman420

i bet that coin is every bit a 67 but the scans are too small and show no luster

Jcarney

<< <i>You should be very careful about disparaging that particular seller.

Russ, NCNE >>



I can disparage him all I want. I was dismissed with prejudice.

astrorat

<< <i>I just do not belive that PCGS would grade this coin MS 67. >>



But they apparently did...imagine that. Yet from small images on eBay you have deduced that PCGS was wrong in its grading. Have you seen the coin in hand, outside the holder? Sure, PCGS can make a grading mistake or rather their opinion can be inconsistent on a particular coin, but you may want to reserve your expert judgment until you have more information. If the average collector could accurately grade high-end modern coins from small, eBay images, just imagine what the experts at PCGS could do.

Too many people rant because they can't get the same grades as those "insider dealers." As someone who has actually taught grading and has spoken with these ranters in person about how they are being "cheated" by the grading services, it usually ends up that their rants are based on a lack of knowledge on how to grade than not being part of the "inner circle."

If you disagree with the grade, don't buy the coin. If you can't grade, then either get the requisite knowledge and experience or just buy the plastic.

Lane

Edited for spelling.

Broadstruck

However, for $8,100 or more, you could get a coin that's legitimately rare, not a coin with nearly 10,000 known and slabbed.

RichieURich

Swampboy

The heck with the thread.

Me and Mrs. Swampboy are just gonna sit back and watch Broadstruck's sigline tonight.

coinman420

if you submitted a 63(title says you have 2) then you should of expected a 63 and prayed for a 64. if you expected 67 your grading was off.

this quarter i submitted and it graded 67 and that is what i expected. it does not look like a 67 in my bad photos.

Whatafind

No! Got my 63s and 64s off ebay or friends. They look great.

Russ

<< <i><< You should be very careful about disparaging that particular seller.

Russ, NCNE >>

I can disparage him all I want. I was dismissed with prejudice. >>





Russ, NCNE

ChrisRx

Unreal price. But don't see how its unreal to be a 67... all those marks are clearly on the holder...

mr1931S

don't get it... $8100 for a 2004 Statehood Quarter

BlindedByEgo

<< <i>don't get it... $8100 for a 2004 Statehood Quarter

>>



Supply/Demand*Speculation+Desire

wondercoin

I have the first MS67 ever slabbed (true and solid MS67) in my Wash quarter variety collection. I can not comment on the quality of this coin from a scan. But, generally speaking, $8,000 is a nice buy IMHO if the coin was a nice quality pop 3 piece.

Wondercoin

lordmarcovan

True, the pix do enlarge when clicked, and the coin looks horrible and baggy in the big picture.

BUT, there is still no way to tell which marks are on the plastic and which (if any) are on the coin.

lordmarcovan

<< <i>How do i sent my coins in to to have them regraded up to MS 67 bull >>

I don't think there is such a designation as MS67 "Bull". I've heard of MS67 RD, MS67 FB, MS67 FT, but not MS67 B.

(I can think of a number of times where a "bull" designation might be appropriate, however...)

leothelyon

There are 3 marks on the obverse and 1 on the reverse. The nice one on the shoulder and reverse should have precluded this coin from grading 67. How do I know they are nicks, well......that's a trade'sman secrect! The thing is about these high prices paid for modern high graded rarities, there are true collectors looking their purchases over and sending them back when they'e not happy with them. So if you're one of those individuals who have been laying down your money on everything that has a high pop number, then you run a risk of having inferior coins in your set. Everyone returns coins that they believe are overgraded! It's no different with low pop coins.


Leo

Tyler1924S

Here's a closer look at the coin in question.



Edited to add second pic.

Not saying I agree or disagree with the grade. I've circled several of the hits. Can't determine what that is on the cow's head, so I've put a question mark there. Hopefully, the larger pics will help.

pitboss

That mark on the cows forehead is pretty common on these quarters, I have seen a lot of them. That alone should cause it to not be a 67. My 67 high leaf (ANACS) has no marks on it at all. If the other marks are on the holder, it was not very well protected by the owner.

TwoSides2aCoin

Chow down !

dorkkarl

pla$tic sure makes people $tupid

K S

TwoSides2aCoin

<< <i>pla$tic sure makes people $tupid

K S >>



I think it sure makes people money. Interesting contrast, eh ?

Gemineye

Wow ..$8000 Grand for a die gouged coin..and it looks ugly to boot....!!!....Don't look like a 67..?!?!?!....but who am I to judge ...PCGS..?!?!

jmj3esq

There is a lot in this thread that makes me laugh. From the original post all the way to the asking price for that coin. $8,000!!!?

dorkkarl

<< <i>

<< <i>pla$tic sure makes people $tupid

K S >>



I think it sure makes people money. Interesting contrast, eh ? >>

$tupidity is what makes people money, not pla$tic

K S

TwoSides2aCoin

<< <i>

<< <i>

<< <i>pla$tic sure makes people $tupid
K S >>


I think it sure makes people money. Interesting contrast, eh ? >>

$tupidity is what makes people money, not pla$tic
K S >>



If this theory is true than we must achieve stupidity for survival, yes ? It takes money to buy the things we need to survive. So, in essence...if we attain stupidity based on your reasoning, we stand a chance at survival ? This is enlightening.

EagleEye

I am not entierly sure the coin sold. From the bids it looks like a shil and protection bid. None of the real bids were anywhere close. Wondercoin is correct that the price was cheap for the plastic. However, for that coin, at least the way it looks to me, $200 would be more in line with reality.

wondercoin

There is always a (gradeflation) risk with holding most pop top coins (classic or modern). If you hold on to super nice coins for the grade though, you always have the "out" of your coin upgrading to the next grade when the "dust settles". But, it is dissapointing to see "unworthy" coins get slabbed (again, not referencing this particular coin as I have not seen it in person).

Wondercoin

rgl1345

<< <i>

<< <i>Hey! Realone !
Buddy Boy! I am not your buddy and i am not a typist, nor do i want to be.
I have a life! Mr English Professor. >>





Sure do get smoe interesting folks here. >>



Jerks and wannabe's are everywhere

pharmer

"MS 67 My Butt if this coin is a 67 i will eat one of my two 63 and worst!!!"

So, how did they taste?

percyb

<< <i>I'm thinking it would be tough to confirm the grade on that one based on the picture in the auction listing. >>



ditto

pitboss

That is one coin you don't have to see in person to tell.

fc

i agree with the original poster of this thread. the coin
sure does not appear to be a 67.

Wolf359

<< <i>Why Russ ? Because some people get better service than some small dealer or collectors.
Hay man i have to stand up and tell people, like friends and love ones!
You can trust PCGS
With Out Question! >>



You need to be banned, don't you?

TwoSides2aCoin

The label tells you what kind of cereal you get. If you don't like it, go to bed without supper

BlindedByEgo

<< <i>

<< <i>

<< <i>pla$tic sure makes people $tupid

K S >>



I think it sure makes people money. Interesting contrast, eh ? >>

$tupidity is what makes people money, not pla$tic

K S >>



Were this true, I'D be broke, and YOU"D make a lot of money.

TwoSides2aCoin

<< <i>I just do not belive that PCGS would grade this coin MS 67.
I would like to Ask MR. Hall how this coin makes a 67.
How do i sent my coins in to to have them regraded up to MS 67 bull
68 or better 68.
This is the second time that i seen them over grade One of this guys coins.
Could be the same coin!
i just can not belive. Link!Text >>



While I can understand your disbelief especially as it pertains to photos on ebay.... I would like to add:

Grading is subjective. One must see the coin in hand prior to assessing a grade. PCGS is a company made up of humans that have a process that uses "subjectivity" in the grading. Is there a reason to try and tear down an institution over a coin ? Is there a reason to insinuate that someone is getting better treatment in the grading room than you ? I think this is rubbish. Honestly man, give your head a shake. Graders are paid to grade coins, not look up who submitted them and then be lax. Anyway, if it were my company and I found that was happening, I'd hire you to be a spy on the inside. If you found that it was not the case, I would graciously accept your apology.


Joe

MrEureka

Is there a reason to insinuate that someone is getting better treatment in the grading room than you ? I think this is rubbish...

...especially when that someone is Alan Hager.