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Before and After

This is one of my favorite set of 'before and after' images:

The before pic is a plate photo of a 1652 Willow Trree Sixpence from Sydney Noe's "The Silver Coinage of Massachusetts" published in 1943:

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The after pic is the same coin as it looks today:

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  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    isn't digital photography amazing?image
  • Does look better with the hole filled and edges of the coin not cropped off.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    image
  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭


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    image STOP IT! image Yer killin' me! image
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    That's an amazing repair. Thanks for sharing.
    Becky
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice repair job. Is it in an NCS holder?


  • << <i>Nice repair job. Is it in an NCS holder? >>



    It is, last sold by Heritage and described as holed and plugged.

    Still, if I hadn't seen that 'before' photo I would not have believed that a hole that big (as a percentage of the original surface area, it might just be the biggest plugged hole in numismatic history) could have been repaired so well.

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Quite the difference. Looks much better.

    Who's the coin doc who did that reconstructive surgery?
    ----- kj
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    it looks like they also tooled it some to make it higher graded

    -lower S and circles above it
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975


    << <i>it looks like they also tooled it some to make it higher graded

    -lower S and circles above it >>


    It doesn't look like much is original aside from the silver (not counting the plug).
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    If you never saw the before picture, what would you think?
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing restoration... it is done with paintings.. why not rare coins? Cheers, RickO
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing repair and coin.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    If you never saw the before picture, what would you think?

    I'd like to think that I'd learn enough about Massachusetts silver to spot the work before spending my money. As it is, I would not have properly evaluated the coin based on the picture, and I doubt that I would have done much better looking at the coin in person.

    Amazing restoration... it is done with paintings.. why not rare coins? Cheers, RickO

    I worked on a dairy farm one summer while I was in high school. Old Mr. Fairchild, the owner of the farm, could repair anything and everything. He was proud of his ability and his tools. One day he showed me a hammer that his grandfather had owned. He told me about the amount of work that three generations had done with that tool. To emphasize his point, he raised the hammer to point toward the family farmhouse that his grandfather had built.

    I was really impressed. "There's a lot of history in that hammer," I said.

    "Yes, Mr. Fairchild responded. "And for that reason I've kept it in good shape over all these years of use. I've replaced the handle two times and the head just once."
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    image

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  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    It looks like there was some re-engraving done, as well, John, on the pellets near the hole and the A next to the hole. Do you agree?
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  • Boys! Girls!

    It is Not harshly cleaned, Not altered, Not Tooled, it is called gently "restored"

    I swear this Hobby and its contradictions (as long as the 'right' people are doing it) just kill me!

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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It looks like there was some re-engraving done, as well, John, on the pellets near the hole and the A next to the hole. Do you agree? >>



    I am loathe to draw any conclusions about some of the smaller details based on what we 'see' in a scan of the 1940s era 'before' photograph, but I assume that anyone skillful enough to plug a hole that large probably would have taken the opportunity to fix a few other things while he had his tools out. I would also assume that disguising the major repair might have been easier if other areas of the coin were tweaked so as to blend in - both literally and visually.
  • lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭


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    Classic.. Roids image
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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,051 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Amazing restoration... it is done with paintings.. why not rare coins? Cheers, RickO >>



    That's insightful.

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  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very impressive.

    I also note that nobody is saying that the coin should have been left alone. image
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Very impressive.

    I also note that nobody is saying that the coin should have been left alone. image >>



    The coin should have been left alone. Especially the shaving to make it look more round than a Willow Tree would be expected to be.

    Edit: Sentence in italics retracted. See next two posts.
    --

    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,437 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The coin should have been left alone. Especially the shaving to make it look more round than a Willow Tree would be expected to be. >>



    Looks like it's in some type of holder that gives the impression that it's rounder that it actually is in its raw state.

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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Very impressive.

    I also note that nobody is saying that the coin should have been left alone. image >>



    The coin should have been left alone. Especially the shaving to make it look more round than a Willow Tree would be expected to be. >>



    As Perry noted, the coin wasn't "shaved" to be made more round, the second photo was taken in an NCS holder.
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Very impressive.

    I also note that nobody is saying that the coin should have been left alone. image >>



    The coin should have been left alone. Especially the shaving to make it look more round than a Willow Tree would be expected to be. >>



    As Perry noted, the coin wasn't "shaved" to be made more round, the second photo was taken in an NCS holder. >>



    Ok, thanks.
    --

    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    I guess if a black boy can become a white sort-of man, then a holed coin can become a non-holed coin! Looks like a really good job...
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