ANACS Heavy Cameo Designation

LeeG

In my short coin collecting life I've found that Proof Coins with the ANACS Heavy Cameo Designation tough to find. When you do find them, they are pretty much hammered. This example arrived today:






OTT-LITE


Ambient


Halogen

jabba

Ive never seen that before, cool!

savoyspecial

for all the praise that OTT light gets i think i prefer Ambient given these images......look at the depth Ambient provides on Monticello (specifically the columns)

greg

STONE

Lee, please tell me those reverse scratches are on the slab and not the coin.

If so it's a nice looking coin for the grades, but if not then oh well!!!

Rampage

<< <i>Lee, please tell me those reverse scratches are on the slab and not the coin.

If so it's a nice looking coin for the grades, but if not then oh well!!! >>



Given the 67 grade, I would assume those scratches are on the coin itself and not the slab.

coinsarefun

I never knew that ANACS does that.
I like it

SeattleSlammer

Yes, ANACS "coined" some of the best slab lingo: heavy cameo, udm (ultra deep mirror), net grade, and more!

seanq

I've posted this coin several times before, I bought it from the Cheap Slab Store because I'd never seen an earlier proof in an ANACS Heavy Cameo holder before. At the time I bought this it was a pop 3/0 in the ANACS report, I think ANACS has since become a bit more liberal with numerical grades on modern proofs.




Sean Reynolds

LeeG

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<< <i>Lee, please tell me those reverse scratches are on the slab and not the coin.

If so it's a nice looking coin for the grades, but if not then oh well!!! >>



Given the 67 grade, I would assume those scratches are on the coin itself and not the slab. >>


Yup.

airedale

Along the same lines I have only seen 3 PCI Ultra Cameo coins. PCI supports three levels of cameo designation in order of increasing contrast: Cameo, Deep Cameo, and Ultra Cameo.
Within a cameo designation level there is quite a span of contrast from the "just made it" coin up to the coin that "just misses" the next level.
Moral of the story, when you see a PCI deep cameo they really mean cameo as the other services would use the term.

bronze6827

Interesting post. I've never really thought about it, and actually I've owned a number of these. Most of them I cracked out to cross over. Suprisingly, (and pleasantly) I don't remember even one that didn't upgrade by one point at PCGS (I'm sure it's merely coincidence). I guess I really haven't seen a lot of these lately, but I'm not looking either. I would think that there are many out there, however.

morgansforever

I like the Ott-Lite pic best. I would imagine it looks the same in hand.

Excellent pics Lee

Russ

<< <i>Along the same lines I have only seen 3 PCI Ultra Cameo coins. PCI supports three levels of cameo designation in order of increasing contrast: Cameo, Deep Cameo, and Ultra Cameo. >>



Here's a PCI Ultra Cameo that appeared on eBay a few years ago:



It landed in a PCGS MS67DCAM holder.

Russ, NCNE

percyb

Is that distinguishable from Deep Cameo?

dizzyfoxx

<< <i>In my short coin collecting life I've found that Proof Coins with the ANACS Heavy Cameo Designation tough to find. When you do find them, they are pretty much hammered. This example arrived today:






OTT-LITE


Ambient


Halogen >>



I've said it once and I'll say it again... OTT-LITE, the ONLY way to go.

pontiacinf

Lee that is one very berry nice 72

Manorcourtman

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<< <i>Along the same lines I have only seen 3 PCI Ultra Cameo coins. PCI supports three levels of cameo designation in order of increasing contrast: Cameo, Deep Cameo, and Ultra Cameo. >>



Here's a PCI Ultra Cameo that appeared on eBay a few years ago:



It landed in a PCGS MS67DCAM holder.

Russ, NCNE >>



I believe I bought that coin.

ricko

That Jefferson looks like FS...is it? Cheers, RickO

airedale

<< <i>

<< <i>Along the same lines I have only seen 3 PCI Ultra Cameo coins. PCI supports three levels of cameo designation in order of increasing contrast: Cameo, Deep Cameo, and Ultra Cameo. >>



Here's a PCI Ultra Cameo that appeared on eBay a few years ago:



It landed in a PCGS MS67DCAM holder.

Russ, NCNE >>



Thanks,
That makes the fourth one I have seen. What I wonder brought it down from a 69? Is that a frost break in the hair near the front and above the eye?

Russ

<< <i>What I wonder brought it down from a 69? >>



The fact that it wasn't an MS69 to begin with.



<< <i>Is that a frost break in the hair near the front and above the eye? >>



It's the Birthmark Die variety.

Russ, NCNE

airedale

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<< <i>What I wonder brought it down from a 69? >>



The fact that it wasn't an MS69 to begin with.



<< <i>Is that a frost break in the hair near the front and above the eye? >>



It's the Birthmark Die variety.

Russ, NCNE >>


What was/were the flaw(s), the birthmark itself?

Russ

<< <i>What was/were the flaw(s), the birthmark itself? >>



The Birthmark isn't a flaw, it's a die variety. PCI graded the coin MS69 and PCI overgrades. Thus, when it went to PCGS it graded MS67. PCGS has never graded a 1967 SMS Kennedy in MS69DCAM, and has graded only six in MS68DCAM.

Russ, NCNE

mnmcoin

The only two I ever bought were both 62 Franklins in 66 heavy cam holders...which I cracked and "conserved" both and go them in 68dcam pcgs holders.

morris