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Any Bust Lovers out there this Evening...? Guess the Grade...


Hot off the Press, 184 Years ago that is..."-)

This baby has Full Bright Luster in Hand...

Feel Free to Guess the Grade or Share your Thoughts/Coins...

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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    must be a ms64

    stunning coin
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, truly beautiful!!!! MS65
  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS 64... With some nice cartwheel toning.
  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    WOW! Nice coin! MS 66!!
  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    MS-64 and looks gorgeous
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin Dave.
    That one is just shy of gem.
    A nice 64+ coin.

    I like this one a lot.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508
    NICE! looks MS66 to me
  • Very cool coin with a nifty die crack.
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  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    Nice rim toning. MS-64.
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  • GABGAB Posts: 641
    High grade MS O-105 AWESOME!!!!image
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  • MS64, and lustrous. It's nice, but for the price of that one, I would perfer several crusty-original AU55's. Great coin though.
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  • CgbCgb Posts: 710
    I think it grades MS-Spectacular.

    Amazing coin image
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    My guess is AU 58, with a planchet streak. I don't see how one can grade MS Busties strictly from pictures.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64

    Blazer!

  • Thanks for the input guys, my thoughts exactly...

    Personally... I give her a 64, she's very becoming in hand...

    This is were it gets good, Would you believe AU58...?

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  • claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,405 ✭✭✭✭
    I grade her image


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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    Guess I was the only one thinking it was not MS. My AU 58 guess was correct.image
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.


  • I think you know the coin..."-)

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  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    I didn't think the coin was strictly MS but with the luster and color that the coin has i thought for sure that it would be given the bump. If you paid even remotely close to AU-58 price, you suck!
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    I was thinking AU58 too...I'm so smartimage
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  • Originally I was going to say 58, as there is a touch of cabinet friction on the hair curl, however I have seen coins with less luster and more friction in MS holders.
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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think you know the coin..."-) >>



    I do? Did I see it somewhere else? I honestly do not recall seeing it.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.

  • Guess I was wrong, just seemed like inside info..."-)

    So you think it's correctly graded at 58...?

    Can you elaborate on why and thanks for the input...

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  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭
    I don't care what the grade is, that is a totally awesome coin.

    I 'll give you ms 60 money right now. LOL

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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Dave, In my head I kept having AU-58, but then I kept seeing MS-64 through MS-66 grades.

    I believe NGC got the grade right on this one. Just a STUNNING coin though!!!
  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 2,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm gonna give it a shot and say MS-64. I'd say 65 or even 66, but the strike is a wee bit too weak on the drapery & some parts of Lib's hair.
    A beautiful bustie, nonetheless...

    How'd I do?

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  • The coin is B E A U T I F U L I'm not so sure I agree with the grade.

    Its very hard to tell without having the coin in hand but could it be a weak strike instead of wear ???



    Alan

    eddited to add: the dark spot behind liberty's head may have held it back too.

    The more I look at the coin, the stronger my thoughts go towards weak strike MS coin, there is a lot of luster.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the coin very much.. regardless of the opinion (grade)... Cheers, RickO
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Guess I was wrong, just seemed like inside info..."-)

    So you think it's correctly graded at 58...?

    Can you elaborate on why and thanks for the input... >>



    Like I said earlier, it is very difficult to grade MS or near MS Busties from pictures. I downloaded your pictures onto my computer, and blew them up. I thought I noticed too much difference between the left star area field, and the main left obverse field. Maybe too much action in the open field. There also appeared to be activity on Miss Liberty's neck area. The strike looks to be about as expected for the marriage, the reverse being stronger than the obverse. Both dies were new for this marriage.

    The black plan streak might also have caused a downgrade to AU 58. Personally, I avoid buying coins with black plan streaks, they just turn me off.

    You have the coin in hand. If you feel it is indeed MS, you should submit it to PCGS for crossover. The added value in the PCGS holder alone would be well worth the submission expense.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • Dave, does it really matter what a beautiful coin grades.
    That one has flash, I surely would say it's a keeper!
    Nice find...
    Mike
  • Thanks guys, always appreciate the input...

    I'm not a crossover/crackout type of guy and will leave it "as is" for now...

    I bought the coin and will keep it in this plastic just to protect it when I'm handling it...

    Mozin... The grease streak is super original in my eye's and adds to the coin but I can see both sides of the coin so to speak..."-)
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  • It probably has a shot at an upgrade to MS62, its an "AU62" or a choice BU coin with just a touch of friction. Many "UNCs" have it even in holders.
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think it's an au58 grade.

    Much higher.

    Originally, I was going to say ms64, before the grade was posted.

    I think you could argue both cases.

    Overall, it's just a great looking coin and I sure hope you paid au58 money for it.
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  • GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085
    You could have fooled me...oxymoronically it's disgustingly beautiful. image
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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    it may say 58 on the insert but, it could be market-graded 64 and most of us probably wouldn`t bat an eye
    at a 65 if that was tha grade.


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  • TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
    Terrific coin at the right price level. I really like the luster. The grease spot shows the care in the dipping and then retoning.
    A collection of AU coins that look like this would be both affordable for many and not likely to depreciate in the wrong side of a cycle.
    Trime
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Good eye, Mozin. If I've said it once I've said it 1000 times.... technically graded AU 58s are without a doubt, some of the most beautiful coins around.

    With that being said, it's my humble opinion that 58 is really being a bit harsh. Man, this coin is a Beauty that just won't quit. Granted, it's darn near impossible to grade a coin from a one dimensional image, but WOW!

    Hat's off to Mozin and maybe the graders nailed it but I don't "see" a 58 here, at all.

    Sweeeet coin!! image

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