What is altered surfaces?

seateddime

I keep getting this on bagged coins, not cleaned or AT but altered surfaces.

What is it?

gecko109

A dipped and retoned copper coin would get that designation. Also a whizzed coin I believe.

GoldenEyeNumismatics

<< <i>A dipped and retoned copper coin would get that designation. Also a whizzed coin I believe. >>



No, a whizzed coin will get a "whizzed" designation

AUandAG

Besides dipping (main culpret I believe) coins can be thumbed, erased, or plumbers puttied too.

bob

dogwood

Next time David Hall spends a day answering questions from the forum, maybe this one should be asked.


Prey tell...what does plumbers putty do?????

ccmorgan

<< <i>Besides dipping (main culpret I believe) coins can be thumbed, erased, or plumbers puttied too.

bob >>


Plumbers putty? What about silly putty?

123cents

A coin that has been whizzed, tooled, polished, or filled in to hide surface problems is considered a altered coin.

AUandAG

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<< <i>Besides dipping (main culpret I believe) coins can be thumbed, erased, or plumbers puttied too.

bob >>


Plumbers putty? What about silly putty? >>



Yes, that's it, I meant silly putty!! No, really plumbers putty temporairily hides the sruffs you see on the Morgan dollar
cheeks. However, later it turns to a soft golden brown type of AT.
At least this is what I was told by my plumber!

bob

PS anyone actually do this? IF so please report your findings!!

Fountainhead

I've gotten the dreaded "altered surfaces" sticker several times, once on a coin Mark B. at B&M described as "well worth owning". Whenever I mention how disappointed I am to him he says, "I'll get back to you..."

NHSBaseball

In the first couple of submissions I made to PCGS I sent in what I thought were my "best" coins at the time and got back several as "altered surfaces". I think a couple had been dipped (but not cleaned) before I bought them, so I could sort of understand those, but with several I still have no idea as to why the surface was judged to be altered. This is why I think that one of the ideas for changes proposed a couple of weeks ago is a good idea- if I pay $18-$30 for a coin that gets bodybagged, I would appreciate a little more detailed explanation of the problem with the coin. At least this way, I could learn (at a cost, of course) from my past purchasing mistakes.

TwoSides2aCoin

PVC damage was the first assessment on this coin. I didn't do anything except mistakenly sent it in again a year later and it came back bagged for "altered surfaces".

ccmorgan

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<< <i>Besides dipping (main culpret I believe) coins can be thumbed, erased, or plumbers puttied too.

bob >>


Plumbers putty? What about silly putty? >>



Yes, that's it, I meant silly putty!! No, really plumbers putty temporairily hides the sruffs you see on the Morgan dollar
cheeks. However, later it turns to a soft golden brown type of AT.
At least this is what I was told by my plumber!

bob

PS anyone actually do this? IF so please report your findings!! >>


Your plummer is a coin collector? I take it he collects morgans.

pb2y

Putty your butt. Its all in the moon phase.

gyocomgd

I got an "altered surfaces" a while back, resubmitted and it pulled MS64.
Several graders seeing a coin as damaged, and then seeing the same coin in a completely different light, still makes no sense to me. It's not like the metal on the coin was magically transformed overnight or anything. Just ridiculous...