A Question about Ethics
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I see many auctions on Ebay for WWII Nazi Silver coins. Is it appropriate to purchase these given their legacy
RACC
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
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Russ, NCNE
<< <i>I see many auctions on Ebay for WWII Nazi Silver coins. Is it appropriate to purchase these given their legacy >>
Some people would find it objectionable. But on the other hand, if we completely bury the unpleasant events in history, we're more likely to eventually forget and repeat the mistakes of the past.
Selling Nazi memorabilia in today's marketplace seems to be acceptable, eventhough we mustn't forget the autrocities they committed.
To prove my point further, the selling of anything connected to the 9/11 disaster is totally looked upon with disgust (ex. those stupid gold-plated coins with the 'pop-up' Twin Towers). I do wonder in 50 years from now if they will be collectible (not intended to offend anyone).
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
They were a real bunch of bad guys.
But I don't feel bad about buying their coins.
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I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
disgusting and filled with negative implications.
What the symbols represent, is the lowest depth
of human depravity . I would never purchase such
trash nor would I deal with a person selling or
trading such. My family lost too many relatives,
serving in the armed forces during the War.
Camelot
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
<< <i>I see many auctions on Ebay for WWII Nazi Silver coins. Is it appropriate to purchase these given their legacy >>
That's history, which is written by the victors. Had WWII gone the other way, I am sure ebay would ban anything with the American flag.
I am a lot more concerned about all the junk sold that's made in communist China. First poison pet food, now kid's necklaces coated with date rape drugs!
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Besides, if the sins of a government were reason enough not collect its coins, than it's a good thing there aren't any Blackwater coins...
>>>My Collection
Those coins are a part of my history, though I don't like that part in the least bit.
I was born in Berlin 5 years after the US liberated Europe.
Appropriate.......you betcha!
Herb
Herb
In no way do I support or condone the actions of the Nazis, but I do collect the coinage of their era. I collect primarily for my interest in history, military history in particular, and like it or not, the Nazi era is part of history..and they minted coins.
Although the common date, circulated Silver pieces can be found in flea markets and junk boxes everywhere, finding them in nice Uncirculated condition (from every year and mint) is a real collecting challenge. I am currently only one piece short of having a complete (99 piece) BU set of 3rd Reich Silver 2 and 5 Marks. It was a challenge that took me several years of aggressive searching to complete, and I am proud of the accomplishment. Considering the conditions in late-war and post-war Germany, it is amazing that any of the coins survived in mint condition, and there were even Proofs!
I also have a 3rd Reich type set that includes copper, copper-nickel, nickel. zinc and silver pieces, all are either BU or Proof, and for some types, I have both. Some of the Proofs are extremely scarce, even rare.
I also collect coins of the militaristic state of Prussia and Napoleonic medals, and from what I've read, they weren't always very nice either
At the risk of offending some (but without that intention) – a piece of history in PCGS PR65 DCAM:
edited for spelling
I would agree that collecting this type of material for the "wrong" reasons is extremely distasteful. However, I don't want to be the arbiter of what is or is not "allowed" or "tolerated"- that is the same type of thinking my grandfather(s) fought to save us from in the first place.
-Randy Newman
<< <i>What the symbols represent, is the lowest depth of human depravity >>
Not always.
Ancient symbol.
*disclaimer I am not a Nazi*
Coin are coins. Roman emperors were a very bad lot. George Washington owned slaves, as did Thomas Jefferson. Despots?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
owned and when you buy collections you find lots of them. I don't find it acceptable.
The Swastika symbal itself is fine. American Indians of the southwest used the symbol for good luck. Hey,
that's a real neat collectable. It's the WWII era and Hitler associated swastikas that are not worth viewing.
That's my opinion.
By the way, they are fun to shoot holes through and make slugs out of!
bob
<< <i>I think the passage of TIME has a lot to do with too.
Selling Nazi memorabilia in today's marketplace seems to be acceptable, eventhough we mustn't forget the autrocities they committed.
To prove my point further, the selling of anything connected to the 9/11 disaster is totally looked upon with disgust (ex. those stupid gold-plated coins with the 'pop-up' Twin Towers). I do wonder in 50 years from now if they will be collectible (not intended to offend anyone). >>
I this that's an apples and oranges comparison. Coins from Nazi Germany are historical artifacts; the 9/11 coins are newly-made commemoratives produced for profit. If someone made a Holocaust commemorative, I'd find that utterly disgusting, and that would be hateful. However, I don't have a problem with the sale of items from Nazi Germany.
I am a firm believer that you must remember the past in order not to relive it. What message would it be sending to my relatives who died at the hands of Hitler that I'm going to put everything from that era out of my mind? All of my family is a testament to the fact that in the end, we triumphed. Now, it's our duty to remind people what happened, and then be able to say "never again."
<< <i>I see many auctions on Ebay for WWII Nazi Silver coins. Is it appropriate to purchase these given their legacy >>
Great question-one I have also pondered a time or two. I finally decided to not bid-to do so gives them value. I could easily understand the desire to collect them and wouldn't care if someone else does-personally I would like to see them all melted.
I am Irish.
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<< <i>I am a firm believer that you must remember the past in order not to relive it. What message would it be sending to my relatives who died at the hands of Hitler that I'm going to put everything from that era out of my mind? All of my family is a testament to the fact that in the end, we triumphed. Now, it's our duty to remind people what happened, and then be able to say "never again." >>
The President of Iran and the idiots who support him need "reminding" of what happened.
Memorabilia implies there are memories.