To me it means that the savant who types up the flips may have made a mistake.
People here criticize PSA like they're composed of a bunch of Saints grading cards and the system was ordained by the Almighty Himself.
Companies - ALL of them - make mistakes - if ya send in enough stuff - ya gonna get crap from time to time.
PSA makes mistakes...
GAI makes mistakes...
BGS makes mistakes...
SGC makes mistakes...
I make mistakes...
mike
edit: the grading is a VOLUME business - now if everyone wants to spend 30 bucks a card with a 60 day turnaround - so that a grader has ample time to cover all the bases? Then - perhaps - errors should not be tolerated as much.
I sure would like to be a fly on the wall when some of these mad shipments come into PSA or BGS .
When it is all said and done , I wonder if the grade and the authenticity are decided by one person alone , or does it move down a line and maybe be dedcided by let's say 3 people < Shrug >
<< <i>so this was the big news which you absolutely had to keep to yourself but couldnt refrain from posting on here to tell people that you knew something that we didnt? wow-- so what grade are you in again??? >>
I did some searches on ebay, and I must admit psa does grade more modern stuff than I realized, but not 50%
The biggest difference i found was in searching completed baseball for chrome over $100 where there were about 4 times as many bgs as psa.
Overall, though I would say it definetely is a lot closer than i realized, but bgs graded cards definetely sell for more than psa on the big modern cards.
Thursday, November 1st, 2007 at 9:00 PM EDT, Mike admits he was wrong about something.
Someone check to see if hell just froze over...
<< <i>I did some searches on ebay, and I must admit psa does grade more modern stuff than I realized, but not 50%
The biggest difference i found was in searching completed baseball for chrome over $100 where there were about 4 times as many bgs as psa.
Overall, though I would say it definetely is a lot closer than i realized, but bgs graded cards definetely sell for more than psa on the big modern cards. >>
thanks for all the responses. i still post on beckett boards almost every day. a lot of tools on here to say the least. i will have bigger news next week so stay tuned.
again this is big news for the hobby & for many people involved.
<< <i>thanks for all the responses. i still post on beckett boards almost every day. a lot of tools on here to say the least. i will have bigger news next week so stay tuned.
again this is big news for the hobby & for many people involved.
It's under a new ID then, as your itsinthegrade account over there is permanently suspended.
<< <i>thanks for all the responses. i still post on beckett boards almost every day. a lot of tools on here to say the least. i will have bigger news next week so stay tuned.
again this is big news for the hobby & for many people involved.
<< <i>thanks for all the responses. i still post on beckett boards almost every day. a lot of tools on here to say the least. i will have bigger news next week so stay tuned.
again this is big news for the hobby & for many people involved.
ask psa if this was big? >>
Interpretation:
"Thanks for all the responses" = Thanks for feeding my overwhelming need for attention!
"I still post on beckett boards almost every day" = I post on beckett to add to my overwhelming need for attention!
"A lot of tools on here to say the least" = I love sausage!
"I will have bigger news next week so stay tuned" = I will continue to feed this board more crap so I can try to stay the center of attention! My farts smell good.
i cant wait, ill have to go and get a colon cleansing to get ready for your next line of bs THE REAL TOOL--DISCUSTIPATED-"THESE ARE THE CRIES OF THE CARROTS-THIS IS NECESSARY-LIFE FEED ON LIFE-FEEDS ON LIFE" any band that uses a shotgun as a musical instument is a-ok in my book,thank you,i take small bow 60s me-real tools- randy self- appointed general of cu psycho squad,anybody wanna join? let my people go lol
Not really. He probably found out because he was an SGC/JSA dealer, and was probably told not to send anything further in for the time being because of the impending announcement.
<< <i>He is just posting what he hears on the boards from Elon Werner the PR guy from Beckett. >>
Jsa is not perfect, but what authentication company is any better????
www.sportsnutcards.com Specializing in Certified Autograph Cards, Rookies, Rare Inserts and other quality modern cards! Over 8000 Cards in stock now! Come visit our physical store located at 1210 Main St. Belmar ,NJ
<< <i>It's under a new ID then, as your itsinthegrade account over there is permanently suspended.
<< <i>thanks for all the responses. i still post on beckett boards almost every day. a lot of tools on here to say the least. i will have bigger news next week so stay tuned.
again this is big news for the hobby & for many people involved.
ask psa if this was big? >>
>>
no way is that true>? BGS biggest supporter got suspended? WOW
the thing with BGS is this.. most new collectors to the hobby, youngsters, collect the new stuff, and they are drawn to Beckett mainly because of their name and magazine...
when they become more seasoned, and more advanced collectors, they find out the truth about BGS and eventually move on.....
what veteran collector chooses BGS over PSA? show me that person and i will show you a naive person with blinders on....
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
whos mcfly, shut up superman , ya bother me-who is this nut stitzens brother??? beckett-where cards go to die-i liked that banner-i suggest you take it with you and hit the road-i dont think youre well liked here kid
<< <i>whos mcfly, shut up superman , ya bother me-who is this nut stitzens brother??? beckett-where cards go to die-i liked that banner-i suggest you take it with you and hit the road-i dont think youre well liked here kid >>
im retired,been posting on both your bs threads day & night since the beginning,how old are you?not very- -has a kid 5-u cant be that old,work for beckett? i dont see where you get along with anbody-youre sure not going to win an argument again me i assure you its stitzen jr!!!!!
1. Spence has left SGC to go play with the kiddies.
2. Beckett grades a lot more modern cards than I thought.
3. PSA has roughly three and a half times the amount of cards for sale via Ebay than SGC/GAI/BGS combined. But I'm sure BSG is holding it's own in the luctrative modern market.
4. Itsinthegrade business just got a lot more efficient so understandably he is pumped.
5. The vast majority of us here wouldn't consider sending a valuable card to SGC or BGS so we could give a flying rip.
Oh my God. Collector's Universe stock is down 20 cents. The world has taken notice to the incredible news that BSG and JSA are now one mighty juggernaut. PSA is trembling at the feet of the mighty BSG...I must listen to the little guy in the superman outfit, thumping a Beckett price guide...I guess I should dislodge the two BSG slabs I got as gifts from under the legs of my coffee table. It's gold everyone! Gold I tell ya!
Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
amen -my couch is tipping over now cause i had to stack 10 bccg slabs under it when i broke of the leg with anxiety from the news,been sittting here for 2 weeks just hitting refresh-it was the shot heard round the world all over again-except from a cap pistol
<< <i>amen -my couch is tipping over now cause i had to stack 10 bccg slabs under it when i broke of the leg with anxiety from the news,been sittting here for 2 weeks just hitting refresh-it was the shot heard round the world all over again-except from a cap pistol >>
THANK YOU. I have been holding on to a stack of Beckett holders and since they are impenetrable and have had no clue what to do with them.
Comments
<< <i>I'm more than certain PSA would say , that is a pretty big deal .
Well . . . maybe not in public and maybe not right this second .
And so . . . The Battle Begins .
As far as the hobby is concerned , I think this is big news . >>
Anthony
It's hobby news for sure.
Unfortunately the original thread on this topic is gone but it was expressed like it was gonna rock the hobby world.
Truthfully - unless that battery acid I drank in '97 has totally warped my brain - this has little impact on me and collecting.
I asked itsinthegrade to explain to me why this is so absolutely important but no response.
What am I missing? To me - at best/worst/or who cares - that's all it means is some money will be going to JSA instead of PSA/DNA - otherwise? What?
mike
mike
<< <i>I have no idea how to respond to any post containing the phrase ".... the battery acid I drank....." >>
Lee
Ask Rube - he'll 'splain to ya.
This is putting me to
Yea, No doubt . .
As far as rockin the Hobby world . . .
I think not , But I guess I can see how many could get over excited about it . .
Especially if they are not big fans of PSA and would just want to make it seem like the greatest thing since sliced bread .
Couldn't be that big of news , cause I hadn't even heard of it before today . .
<< <i>Enough Said!
Not sure what that says?
To me it means that the savant who types up the flips may have made a mistake.
People here criticize PSA like they're composed of a bunch of Saints grading cards and the system was ordained by the Almighty Himself.
Companies - ALL of them - make mistakes - if ya send in enough stuff - ya gonna get crap from time to time.
PSA makes mistakes...
GAI makes mistakes...
BGS makes mistakes...
SGC makes mistakes...
I make mistakes...
mike
edit: the grading is a VOLUME business - now if everyone wants to spend 30 bucks a card with a 60 day turnaround - so that a grader has ample time to cover all the bases? Then - perhaps - errors should not be tolerated as much.
I sure would like to be a fly on the wall when some of these mad shipments come into PSA or BGS .
When it is all said and done , I wonder if the grade and the authenticity are decided by one person alone , or does it move down a line and maybe be dedcided by let's say 3 people < Shrug >
<< <i>Say goodbye to Sgc. 2 big forces are now combined! >>
PSA > SGC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BGS & JSA > GAI
you're a douche.
<< <i>so this was the big news which you absolutely had to keep to yourself but couldnt refrain from posting on here to tell people that you knew something that we didnt? wow-- so what grade are you in again??? >>
haha!!
good point Pat.
this guy (OP).........what a douche!!
<< <i>hes got a very large onus >>
thanks!
1994 Pro Line Live
TheDallasCowboyBackfieldProject
I did some searches on ebay, and I must admit psa does grade more modern stuff than I realized, but not 50%
The biggest difference i found was in searching completed baseball for chrome over $100 where there were about 4 times as many bgs as psa.
Overall, though I would say it definetely is a lot closer than i realized, but bgs graded cards definetely sell for more than psa on the big modern cards.
Someone check to see if hell just froze over...
<< <i>I did some searches on ebay, and I must admit psa does grade more modern stuff than I realized, but not 50%
The biggest difference i found was in searching completed baseball for chrome over $100 where there were about 4 times as many bgs as psa.
Overall, though I would say it definetely is a lot closer than i realized, but bgs graded cards definetely sell for more than psa on the big modern cards. >>
again this is big news for the hobby & for many people involved.
ask psa if this was big?
<< <i>thanks for all the responses. i still post on beckett boards almost every day. a lot of tools on here to say the least. i will have bigger news next week so stay tuned.
again this is big news for the hobby & for many people involved.
ask psa if this was big? >>
<< <i>thanks for all the responses. i still post on beckett boards almost every day. a lot of tools on here to say the least. i will have bigger news next week so stay tuned.
again this is big news for the hobby & for many people involved.
ask psa if this was big? >>
<< <i>thanks for all the responses. i still post on beckett boards almost every day. a lot of tools on here to say the least. i will have bigger news next week so stay tuned.
again this is big news for the hobby & for many people involved.
ask psa if this was big? >>
Interpretation:
"Thanks for all the responses" = Thanks for feeding my overwhelming need for attention!
"I still post on beckett boards almost every day" = I post on beckett to add to my overwhelming need for attention!
"A lot of tools on here to say the least" = I love sausage!
"I will have bigger news next week so stay tuned" = I will continue to feed this board more crap so I can try to stay the center of attention! My farts smell good.
<< <i> i will have bigger news next week so stay tuned.
>>
I'm gonna have to agree with the people in the parade assembled in your honor
I really dont know what I'm gonna do with myself till you tell me the news!
1994 Pro Line Live
TheDallasCowboyBackfieldProject
THE REAL TOOL--DISCUSTIPATED-"THESE ARE THE CRIES OF THE CARROTS-THIS IS NECESSARY-LIFE FEED ON LIFE-FEEDS ON LIFE"
any band that uses a shotgun as a musical instument is a-ok in my book,thank you,i take small bow
60s me-real tools-
randy self- appointed general of cu psycho squad,anybody wanna join?
let my people go lol
<< <i>i will have bigger news next week so stay tuned.
again this is big news for the hobby & for many people involved.
>>
Is this guy serious?
<< <i>It's under a new ID then, as your itsinthegrade account over there is permanently suspended.
>>
ok sherlock!
http://www.beckett.com/beckettforum/Default.aspx?g=search
search for username itsinthegrade
You'll find no posts in the past 6 months, the reason being that account is suspended until August of 2691.
<< <i>
<< <i>It's under a new ID then, as your itsinthegrade account over there is permanently suspended.
>>
ok sherlock! >>
<< <i>He is just posting what he hears on the boards from Elon Werner the PR guy from Beckett.
Specializing in Certified Autograph Cards, Rookies, Rare Inserts and other quality modern cards! Over 8000 Cards in stock now! Come visit our physical store located at 1210 Main St. Belmar ,NJ
<< <i>It's under a new ID then, as your itsinthegrade account over there is permanently suspended.
<< <i>thanks for all the responses. i still post on beckett boards almost every day. a lot of tools on here to say the least. i will have bigger news next week so stay tuned.
again this is big news for the hobby & for many people involved.
ask psa if this was big? >>
>>
no way is that true>? BGS biggest supporter got suspended? WOW
the thing with BGS is this.. most new collectors to the hobby, youngsters, collect the new stuff, and they are drawn to Beckett mainly because of their name and magazine...
when they become more seasoned, and more advanced collectors, they find out the truth about BGS and eventually move on.....
what veteran collector chooses BGS over PSA? show me that person and i will show you a naive person with blinders on....
<< <i>I think PSA/DNA is better. JSA has had some shady dealings. >>
how is psa/dna better??? didnt spence teach the 2 guys there???
<< <i>Feel free to search:
http://www.beckett.com/beckettforum/Default.aspx?g=search
search for username itsinthegrade
You'll find no posts in the past 6 months, the reason being that account is suspended until August of 2691.
<< <i>
<< <i>It's under a new ID then, as your itsinthegrade account over there is permanently suspended.
>>
ok sherlock! >>
>>
i think you might be the smartest person alive. i like the way you can utilize the search button!
<< <i>
<< <i>Feel free to search:
http://www.beckett.com/beckettforum/Default.aspx?g=search
search for username itsinthegrade
You'll find no posts in the past 6 months, the reason being that account is suspended until August of 2691.
<< <i>
<< <i>It's under a new ID then, as your itsinthegrade account over there is permanently suspended.
>>
ok sherlock! >>
>>
i think you might be the smartest person alive. i like the way you can utilize the search button! >>
<< <i>schr1st has repeatedly decimated you in this thread. Are you sure you want to keep rattling that cage? >>
Thats what a man crush on Spence will do to a person.
<< <i>schr1st has repeatedly decimated you in this thread. Are you sure you want to keep rattling that cage? >>
<< <i>Are you still trying to say that your itsinthegrade account isn't suspended?
<< <i>
<< <i>Feel free to search:
http://www.beckett.com/beckettforum/Default.aspx?g=search
search for username itsinthegrade
You'll find no posts in the past 6 months, the reason being that account is suspended until August of 2691.
<< <i>
<< <i>It's under a new ID then, as your itsinthegrade account over there is permanently suspended.
>>
ok sherlock! >>
>>
i think you might be the smartest person alive. i like the way you can utilize the search button! >>
>>
MCFLY
I see now I'm now dealing with a individual with a very high IQ.
Thanks for pointing that out to me becuase for the past 6 months I didnt know what was going on? I kept getting this message:
Temporary Suspened to until August 2691
beckett-where cards go to die-i liked that banner-i suggest you take it with you and hit the road-i dont think youre well liked here kid
<< <i>whos mcfly, shut up superman , ya bother me-who is this nut stitzens brother???
beckett-where cards go to die-i liked that banner-i suggest you take it with you and hit the road-i dont think youre well liked here kid >>
MCFLY!
<< <i>this guys a real man-id be skeert-must be all of 25 years old going on 3 >>
All the swift ones on during the day! i might not get a long with some of the people at night but at least they have a clue!
its stitzen jr!!!!!
1. Spence has left SGC to go play with the kiddies.
2. Beckett grades a lot more modern cards than I thought.
3. PSA has roughly three and a half times the amount of cards for sale via Ebay than SGC/GAI/BGS combined. But I'm sure BSG is holding it's own in the luctrative modern market.
4. Itsinthegrade business just got a lot more efficient so understandably he is pumped.
5. The vast majority of us here wouldn't consider sending a valuable card to SGC or BGS so we could give a flying rip.
ok ill take him up on that offer-HEY PSA-IS THIS BIG NEWS?-WE'LL ASK CAROLJ LOL
Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12
Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
Stitzen jr indeed! lol.
<< <i>amen -my couch is tipping over now cause i had to stack 10 bccg slabs under it when i broke of the leg with anxiety from the news,been sittting here for 2 weeks just hitting refresh-it was the shot heard round the world all over again-except from a cap pistol >>
THANK YOU. I have been holding on to a stack of Beckett holders and since they are impenetrable and have had no clue what to do with them.