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THis could have been a truly nice on-card auto set without the bandaid...total crap!

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  • On card autos are becoming a thing of the past for most card companies. Its easier just to send players sheets of stickers.
  • It seems to defeat the purpose of creating a nostalgic looking set and then put a 10+ color super rainbow hologram sticker on it. But at least we know what a backwards 'L' means in Chinese; Hong!


  • << <i>On card autos are becoming a thing of the past for most card companies. Its easier just to send players sheets of stickers. >>



    They are still making on-card autos for the premium sets... UD Goudey, A&G, Sterling, Heritage...anything decent is on-card.
    I don't mind if they want to put stickers on cheap base sets for the kiddies (so they can afford the lesser expensive set), but this set had potential until they put that band-aid on there.

    Just another set I won't have anything to do with....

  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    i sent away to him and got his auto in his native thai,it looks a whole lot cooler that that version of his auto,i got a 2006 52styyle redemption of his in the mail today!same but without the goofy sticker anyways

    his thai auto is on my 21st century schitzoid man autograph thread somewhere its 3 characters


  • << <i>i sent away to him and got his auto in his native thai,it looks a whole lot cooler that that version of his auto,i got a 2006 52styyle redemption of his in the mail today!same but without the goofy sticker anyways >>



    Wellllllllllllllllll then, off to the 'mail call' thread for you!!image
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    At this point, I don't even get what the fun of getting an auto of a living player is. 99% of them (retired or playing) sign thousands of cards/stickers per year for companies, tens of thousands per year at card shows and other events, and who knows how many at games and other public outings. If I were an athlete I would definitely go the semi-reclisive route like a John Stockton or Barry Sanders. I mean, am I really supposed to get excited by pulling a Derek Jeter auto whether it's numbered out of 10 or 10,000? It's kind of hard to.
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  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Its simple, Topps doesn't need Turkey Red. It was beautiful in 2006 with on card sigs but nobody bought it, so the
    effort went out the window and we get this. I see this being the last year for TR.

    Someone said that only the premium products get on card sigs...this actually isn't true. A&G and Heritage are not premuim
    products. They are 2.99-4.99 products that have the nicest autos. Topps sells packs that are 10 times that amount and
    UD sells packs that are 50 times that expensive and neither have on card sigs.

    Goudey was and is today an exception for UD. They are almost all sticker autos.

    Kevin
  • UD will have a lot more on-card auto's for 2008, but not so sure about the others.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    i heard uper deck was gonna do away with redemption cards,that would be good, i got 2 cards of zack greinke 2005 bowman autos theother day in mail from topps instead of a kobe clemens and ryan zimmerman,i called em up ,wasnt real happy with em-dont know who zack greinke is-prob works at pizza hut now some pitcher for kc royals then
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>At this point, I don't even get what the fun of getting an auto of a living player is. 99% of them (retired or playing) sign thousands of cards/stickers per year for companies, tens of thousands per year at card shows and other events, and who knows how many at games and other public outings. If I were an athlete I would definitely go the semi-reclisive route like a John Stockton or Barry Sanders. I mean, am I really supposed to get excited by pulling a Derek Jeter auto whether it's numbered out of 10 or 10,000? It's kind of hard to. >>



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    Remember back in the day when UD started this whole craze and if one auto was pulled, it was talk of the shop for weeks.

    Now if someone doesn't pull two autos from a box, it's still talk but in a negative way.

    Sad.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>At this point, I don't even get what the fun of getting an auto of a living player is. 99% of them (retired or playing) sign thousands of cards/stickers per year for companies, tens of thousands per year at card shows and other events, and who knows how many at games and other public outings. If I were an athlete I would definitely go the semi-reclisive route like a John Stockton or Barry Sanders. I mean, am I really supposed to get excited by pulling a Derek Jeter auto whether it's numbered out of 10 or 10,000? It's kind of hard to. >>



    I agree. Though his may not be as limited as some, Albert Pujols autographs and memorabilia are fairly limited. I know he limits his game used stuff to where it is very scarce.

    Shane

  • They are still making on-card autos for the premium sets... UD Goudey, A&G, Sterling, Heritage...anything decent is on-card.

    Might want to look closer at some of these so call on card sigs in premium sets. Many of them that a very clear bandaid that looks like on card until you look closer. All the A&G autos as well as the Goudey are sticker. I would not hardly consider heritage a premium set. 2007 Topps Football has the Rookie autos that are on card. There are some, but the vast majority are now nothing more than bandaids.
  • Hmmm, I've been squinting at this 2007 A&G auto of Jonathan Papelbon for a few minutes now, and it looks like it's "on card" to me. No filmy sticker anywhere.

    But to stay on topic, yeah, I hate sticker autos. Turkey Red's classic design doesn't work with foil stickers, or refractor parallels for that matter.

    And I don't agree about "what fun is getting an auto of a living player?" Easy! You like the player and want something they've touched. Sure, sticker autos are lame, but there's a thrill about getting them to sign a card or stub in person. I've got a few Nolan Ryan autos. He isn't a recluse. Is the plentiful nature of his signature hurting my enjoyment of the autos I have? Heck no! Especially not the TTM he sent me back when I was a lad in the 80's. For those of us who still worship the great players as heroes, there will always be a thrill associated with autographs.
    Nolan Ryan & Edgar Martinez are my favorite players...
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    mosaic's Nolan Ryan Basic Topps registry set
    mosaic's Big 3 Nolan Ryan Run Showcase


  • << <i>They are still making on-card autos for the premium sets... UD Goudey, A&G, Sterling, Heritage...anything decent is on-card.

    Might want to look closer at some of these so call on card sigs in premium sets. Many of them that a very clear bandaid that looks like on card until you look closer. All the A&G autos as well as the Goudey are sticker. I would not hardly consider heritage a premium set. 2007 Topps Football has the Rookie autos that are on card. There are some, but the vast majority are now nothing more than bandaids. >>



    Goudey has non sticker autos.

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  • << <i>At this point, I don't even get what the fun of getting an auto of a living player is. 99% of them (retired or playing) sign thousands of cards/stickers per year for companies, tens of thousands per year at card shows and other events, and who knows how many at games and other public outings. If I were an athlete I would definitely go the semi-reclisive route like a John Stockton or Barry Sanders. I mean, am I really supposed to get excited by pulling a Derek Jeter auto whether it's numbered out of 10 or 10,000? It's kind of hard to. >>



    I hear you...at least they are more rare than the cards of the 80s and 90s. Even for that fact even vintage...
    Collecting autos at least gives you some pride in ownership. I do wish they would do away with stickers on the premium sets....you don't even know if the auto was signed this year or 3 years ago, and the player doesn't even know what he is signing.

    I am in total agreement, if you are going to collect baseball cards at all, collect on-card autos, a nice grade vintage rookie hofer, or something that really stands above....of course there is $$ to consider. I am glad the card companies make some cheap sticker autos for the kids so they can afford autos too, but PLEASE don't ruin sets that have potential.

    one of my few stickers i couldn't part with..
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  • << <i>They are still making on-card autos for the premium sets... UD Goudey, A&G, Sterling, Heritage...anything decent is on-card.

    Might want to look closer at some of these so call on card sigs in premium sets. Many of them that a very clear bandaid that looks like on card until you look closer. All the A&G autos as well as the Goudey are sticker. . >>



    Where do you get your info?

    I have the goudeys, and they are ON-CARD....

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  • CDsNuts>>

    << <i> I mean, am I really supposed to get excited by pulling a Derek Jeter auto whether it's numbered out of 10 or 10,000? It's kind of hard to. >>



    Just curious, do you collect any baseball cards?
  • thes auto card are the biggest joke in the hobby.


  • << <i>thes auto card are the biggest joke in the hobby. >>


    Huh?image
  • these, autograph cards the biggest joke in the hobby. People don't even bother collecting the regular issue set, it's all chase cards, auto cards et. al. 1/1 5/5 etc. till next year, on another card, from another company. face it, these signatures arent that rare unless the player is deceased.

    The 2nd atrocity is those stupid labels. Topps sends player A. a sheet with 500 labels to sign, then they stick them on a card. Ugh!

    repeat the process next year, and the following year. Where is the innovation?
  • BobaFett72>>>


    << <i> face it, these signatures arent that rare unless the player is deceased.
    >>



    on-card autos are more rare than any other type of card....and face it, the rookie autos of today will be the desired cards of the future...

    If you want to pound on someone else's interest, at least share your interests, so others can tell you what a joke your collecting habit is...

  • i collect used band aids and nude photos of mother theresa.
  • bobafett72>>

    << <i>i collect used band aids and nude photos of mother theresa. >>



    Yea, if I collected these, I wouldn't tell anyone either...

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  • << <i>Hmmm, I've been squinting at this 2007 A&G auto of Jonathan Papelbon for a few minutes now, and it looks like it's "on card" to me. No filmy sticker anywhere.

    But to stay on topic, yeah, I hate sticker autos. Turkey Red's classic design doesn't work with foil stickers, or refractor parallels for that matter.

    And I don't agree about "what fun is getting an auto of a living player?" Easy! You like the player and want something they've touched. Sure, sticker autos are lame, but there's a thrill about getting them to sign a card or stub in person. I've got a few Nolan Ryan autos. He isn't a recluse. Is the plentiful nature of his signature hurting my enjoyment of the autos I have? Heck no! Especially not the TTM he sent me back when I was a lad in the 80's. For those of us who still worship the great players as heroes, there will always be a thrill associated with autographs. >>



    noted your sig...yea, I like EDGAR TOO!! Hope he makes the hall...

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  • im very impressed that you can search past ebay auctions.

    thumbs up for you AND a shiny gold star! image

    Your certainly welcome to collect anything your little heart desires, but the perception that the stuff the companies is cranking out is rare is mostly hype. Of course thats my opinion, but I'm entitled to it.

    Opinions are like az$holes, everyones got one, and sometimes I am one image Take it with a grain of salt.
  • Sticker autos rule!!!!
  • "Sticker autos rule!!!!"

    I totally agree! thanks for the sip of Kool aid! image



  • << <i>"Sticker autos rule!!!!"

    I totally agree! thanks for the sip of Kool aid! image >>



    HAHAHAHA, your welcome! No really, you know when i'm ok with a sticker auto? Well, when theres also a logoman patch on the card, then the sticker auto is just fine. Also if maybe a HOF member signed like 500 stickers and then he/she passed away, then that would be cool too.
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    Do you, Mike? You barely keep anything in your collection for longer than 4 months to a year at the most.



    << <i>CDsNuts>>

    << <i> I mean, am I really supposed to get excited by pulling a Derek Jeter auto whether it's numbered out of 10 or 10,000? It's kind of hard to. >>



    Just curious, do you collect any baseball cards? >>

    Who is Rober Maris?


  • << <i>im very impressed that you can search past ebay auctions.

    thumbs up for you AND a shiny gold star! image

    Your certainly welcome to collect anything your little heart desires, but the perception that the stuff the companies is cranking out is rare is mostly hype. Of course thats my opinion, but I'm entitled to it.

    Opinions are like az$holes, everyones got one, and sometimes I am one image Take it with a grain of salt. >>



    Well, some people like to collect players they never watched play ball.
    Some people like to collect current players.
    I happen to like collecting both.
    If I want cards of today's players, i can collect their rookie (like a 1980 rickey) that are so common that there are 1000 for everyone who may want one, and there is no enjoyment in owning it.

    Or I can opt for something a little more difficult...like one of these

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    I happen to like them both. If you don't like what others collect, the nice thing to do is to keep it to yourself...believe me, I doubt there is one card in your collection I would keep.
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    Apparently you don't like that PSA/DNA Henderson rookie card then, Mike, since you are currently selling it.. Just like you are selling off a lot of cards you were so "proudly" showing off on the Beckett boards before you were permanently suspended there YET AGAIN.

    You are the biggest fool I've ever met in this hobby, Mike.






    << <i>

    << <i>im very impressed that you can search past ebay auctions.

    thumbs up for you AND a shiny gold star! image

    Your certainly welcome to collect anything your little heart desires, but the perception that the stuff the companies is cranking out is rare is mostly hype. Of course thats my opinion, but I'm entitled to it.

    Opinions are like az$holes, everyones got one, and sometimes I am one image Take it with a grain of salt. >>



    Well, some people like to collect players they never watched play ball.
    Some people like to collect current players.
    I happen to like collecting both.
    If I want cards of today's players, i can collect their rookie (like a 1980 rickey) that are so common that there are 1000 for everyone who may want one, and there is no enjoyment in owning it.

    Or I can opt for something a little more difficult...like one of these

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    image

    I happen to like them both. If you don't like what others collect, the nice thing to do is to keep it to yourself...believe me, I doubt there is one card in your collection I would keep. >>

    Who is Rober Maris?


  • << <i>Do you, Mike? You barely keep anything in your collection for longer than 4 months to a year at the most.

    >>



    I am always changing what I collect. It makes it fun and affordable. I have owned cards that I would never be able to own if I didn't rotate my collection. That is what I enjoy doing. I am doing the Goudey autos, and I am sure I will sell it eventually too.
    One thing that is good about the way I do it, is that the few cards I do keep, become that more hard to let go of. Who are you to talk anyway, I remember a thread where you said you are on the fence many times about selling it all...
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Oh now I remember the alias.

    : sighs :
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • Just an fyi, I am selling the rickey auto because i replaced it with this one...


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  • Of course, collect what you want, but for me, a swatch cut out of a jersey and a sticker slapped on a card don't do it for me. I dont care how pretty it looks, but on principal destroying a real piece of memorablila (a jersey, a ball, a bat etc) to articially make some sort of rare collectible is kind of silly.

    I've never paid money for an autographed card. If I pulled one out of a pack i guess it would be oK, but i like to get something signed in person, preferably free image Naturally thats not always possible. And these days, what they charge for signature is laughable.
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    I think about it, but I've never done it. I collect because I love the hobby and love collecting. Outside of items I buy for inventory, nearly everything I buy goes into my permanent collection. You? You like to make a big splash when you pick up cards, get people to ooh and aaah over the items, then dump them a few months later, like a little child that is bored with his new toy.

    You "collection" suits you well; you are both pathetic jokes.



    << <i>

    << <i>Do you, Mike? You barely keep anything in your collection for longer than 4 months to a year at the most.

    >>



    I am always changing what I collect. It makes it fun and affordable. I have owned cards that I would never be able to own if I didn't rotate my collection. That is what I enjoy doing. I am doing the Goudey autos, and I am sure I will sell it eventually too.
    One thing that is good about the way I do it, is that the few cards I do keep, become that more hard to let go of. Who are you to talk anyway, I remember a thread where you said you are on the fence many times about selling it all... >>

    Who is Rober Maris?
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    Remember the Johnny Bench bat story?



    << <i>Oh now I remember the alias.

    : sighs : >>

    Who is Rober Maris?


  • << <i>I think about it, but I've never done it. I collect because I love the hobby and love collecting. Outside of items I buy for inventory, nearly everything I buy goes into my permanent collection. You? You like to make a big splash when you pick up cards, get people to ooh and aaah over the items, then dump them a few months later, like a little child that is bored with his new toy.

    You "collection" suits you well; you are both pathetic jokes.



    << <i>

    << <i>Do you, Mike? You barely keep anything in your collection for longer than 4 months to a year at the most.

    >>



    I am always changing what I collect. It makes it fun and affordable. I have owned cards that I would never be able to own if I didn't rotate my collection. That is what I enjoy doing. I am doing the Goudey autos, and I am sure I will sell it eventually too.
    One thing that is good about the way I do it, is that the few cards I do keep, become that more hard to let go of. Who are you to talk anyway, I remember a thread where you said you are on the fence many times about selling it all...


  • << <i>I think about it, but I've never done it. I collect because I love the hobby and love collecting. Outside of items I buy for inventory, nearly everything I buy goes into my permanent collection.


    << <i>

    << <i>Do you, Mike? You barely keep anything in your collection for longer than 4 months to a year at the most.

    >>



    I do get bored with it at times, you obviously do too...if you contemplate gettting rid of it all MANY times as you say. At least I can admit it, and can do so without name calling. Your permanent collection isn't going to heaven with you....there are other things in life.

    I do have over 100 cards that I have had for over a year...and I try and keep it at 100 or so. When i get bored of something I sell it to get something new and interesting to me. That is pretty much the way I collect. And besides maybe a dozen cards in your collection, none I would prefer to have more than any one of the 100 I do have.

    Whatever, to each their own...I have no fault with anyone, not even you Sean, I know you have your humanity imperfections as well as everyone else.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    Yes, I collect lots of baseball cards, many of which will never leave my possession. I also buy and sell a lot stuff because I enjoy the challenge of turning a profit and I enjoy opening packs.

    Lee
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    Your imperfections are epic in scale and pathological in nature. I'd love to hear your explanation for creating yet another account over on Beckett after your last one was permanently suspended. I guess your need to boast was/is all consuming, hence why you created that account, and started posting here after that new account was permanently suspended as well. It is nice to see that you aren't retracting quite as many bids on eBay as you have in the past, so who knows, maybe there is hope for you yet.

    I doubt it though.

    As for your comments about my collection; my collection will be passed on to my nephew and niece when/if I die. If they don't have any interest in cards, then I'll be leaving instructions to have the executor of my estate contact one of my hobby friends (if you need an explanation as to what a friend is, let me know) to have the collection liquidated, and the proceeds go to them.



    << <i>

    << <i>I think about it, but I've never done it. I collect because I love the hobby and love collecting. Outside of items I buy for inventory, nearly everything I buy goes into my permanent collection.


    << <i>

    << <i>Do you, Mike? You barely keep anything in your collection for longer than 4 months to a year at the most.

    >>



    I do get bored with it at times, you obviously do too...if you contemplate gettting rid of it all MANY times as you say. At least I can admit it, and can do so without name calling. Your permanent collection isn't going to heaven with you....there are other things in life.

    I do have over 100 cards that I have had for over a year...and I try and keep it at 100 or so. When i get bored of something I sell it to get something new and interesting to me. That is pretty much the way I collect. And besides maybe a dozen cards in your collection, none I would prefer to have more than any one of the 100 I do have.

    Whatever, to each their own...I have no fault with anyone, not even you Sean, I know you have your humanity imperfections as well as everyone else. >>

    Who is Rober Maris?


  • << <i>Your imperfections are epic in scale and pathological in nature. >>



    I think you can say anyone that is addicted to baseball cards is pathological in nature... (grin)
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts


  • << <i>Yes, I collect lots of baseball cards, many of which will never leave my possession. I also buy and sell a lot stuff because I enjoy the challenge of turning a profit and I enjoy opening packs.

    Lee >>



    AMEN!

    Although I have had the worst luck at busting wax, so I rarely do it....i guess I am lucky i haven't hit a few good ones, or I would be addicted to that as well...
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    Reread the rest of the post, junior. I was adding to it.



    << <i>

    << <i>Your imperfections are epic in scale and pathological in nature. >>



    I think you can say anyone that is addicted to baseball cards is pathological in nature... (grin) >>

    Who is Rober Maris?
  • My latest auto....

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  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    I rest my case...



    << <i>My latest auto....

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    Who is Rober Maris?


  • << <i>I rest my case...



    << <i>My latest auto....

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    I have about 40 of his autos now, and even as I am collecting him, I am convinced that I will sell them all at some time, hopefully when he is in the news and his cards spike....then once out of the news again, I will pick up one or two for my PC. I really don't have any desire to have any more than one or two cards of any one player. It's about as close to prospecting as I get, because I really do not like buying cards of players that have not yet proven themself.





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