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SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
Here's a coin that I've owned for 20ish years. It is in an old rattler. Just for interests sakes what would you grade it? The images were done by Bob Campbell, and I think he did an excellent job. I'll post the slab grade the latter part of this afternoon my time.

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EDITED TO ADD: SEE CURRENT END OF THREAD FOR GRADE.

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  • ArtistArtist Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭
    The obverse looks awesome - 65 territory to my eye.

    However, the reverse looks a little soft and has a few hits.

    Unless there are particulars to this year that I am not aware of concerning strike and what's forgiven or survival rates and what is not forgiven, I would guess that the grade on your holder reads MS63.
  • i don't know the effect that rim ding will have on the grade... but wow... what a pic!

    /ed



  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    the ratttler prob says AU58 or MS60.

    edited to add: AU58. no MS60.
  • dimplesdimples Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭
    AU 58 Rub on the wing.


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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU58... Cheers, RickO
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,178 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That isn't "rub" on the wing - it is a typical (weak) striking characteristic.

    There is a tiny amount of friction on the cheekbone, but I'll go with MS-62+ or MS63. Nice original un-dipped color.
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    Serious rim dings.

    However....perhaps a MS63.

    Oh...AS. (artificially sized)image
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  • ArtistArtist Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭
    I think those rim dings ya'll are seeing are divits on the rattles holder and not the coin.
  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i don't know the effect that rim ding will have on the grade... but wow... what a pic!

    /ed >>



    Those are NOT rim dings. Those are the little holder thingies (that's a technical term image) in a rattler.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think those rim dings ya'll are seeing are divits on the rattles holder and not the coin. >>



    Agreed,

    If it is a weak strike it go 63/64

    If it is rub then a very high end AU58.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    64
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    AU-58
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think the reverse is weakly struck. I'm gonig to assume that the darkish vertical streak on the face from the hair down to behind the mouth is just the corresponding weak spot on the obverse, and is not wear. I have to remember not to grade gold the way I grade silver, so I'm with Carrie-Ann on this one - 64.
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭
    I'm going with 63.

    Nice coin. I like the color variances on the feathers.

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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm like the look !!!! image
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,910 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If it is a weak strike it go 63/64

    If it is rub then a very high end AU58. >>

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭✭✭
    58 back then, probably 63 now.

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  • MS62. But today would grade MS63.
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭
    Probably MS60 then, 62 now
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  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317
    Looks to be an MS63 to me. Just enough tickiness to warrant the grade, IMO but with nice color and eye appeal. The luster looks nice but it looks as if some very light haze is on the obverse from the pics? I wouldn't be surprized to see this in an old rattler in any grade between AU58 and MS63.
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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is graded MS62 in the rattler.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64... very nice terrific example

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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The luster looks nice but it looks as if some very light haze is on the obverse from the pics? >>



    There is no haze on the coin. There is a bit of a two tone aspect to the gold on the obverse.
  • robecrobec Posts: 6,879 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not to butt in Sy, but here is the reverse and obverse with different lighting position and exposure setting. I think it adds a little different dimension as well as showing more luster and less "haze".
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    edited to add obverse.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is a very pretty 10... I had a 1926 that I sold in a 63 holder about 2 years ago. I think yours is as nice if not better.

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