<< <i>Why don't you post that unsolicted PM you sent me, hmm? Tough, arrogant, know-it-all guy behind the scenes but act like Mr. Unquestionable Integrity Victim for everyone else. Heck, I'll gladly post it with your permission.
Because these message boards bring you to a "breaking point" in which you ENCOURAGE someone to commit suicide, this place isn't for you. Resort to threats of physical violence and call people names all while patting yourself on the back and act like you did nothing wrong. Have you contacted that Buyer that you maliciously deceived and offered a full refund yet? Didn't think so.. >>
Resorts to threats of physical violence? What are you talking about? I never threatened you! Go ahead post the PM - but post the entire message just as I wrote it. There was nothing threatening in that PM. Again, you don't need my permission - just post it. That way the board can continue to see what a liar you are.
1. You lied about the threats of physical violence - post it and prove it! 2. You lied about leaving the boards. You said that you would not come back as long as Axtell was around and 3. You lied about me "maliciously deceiving" some buyer. Please post what you are referring to. What buyer?
Please post some links and prove me wrong. You can't, becasue you don't know how to tell the truth. When I make an accusation I post a link or have some sort of proof. You are just a liar trying to make yourself look better in front of the board. You are a fraud!
You say I "call people names." Again, please post a link to what you are reffering to becasue I have NEVER called anybody a name without being called one FIRST! What do you do, just sit around all day and make this crap up? Get a life!
And to think this whole thread started when someone was selling a card that was representative of the problems with today's grading.
All PSA 10's are not created equal. You can grab a handful of PSA 10's of the same card and compare them and find FLAWS with centering or other imperfections on virtually every one. I have seen some 9's that look better than 10's and are even centered better. Before we start mauling each other, remember that this entire thread was started due to the declining quality of PSA's service recently.
<< <i>Why don't you post that unsolicted PM you sent me, hmm? Tough, arrogant, know-it-all guy behind the scenes but act like Mr. Unquestionable Integrity Victim for everyone else. Heck, I'll gladly post it with your permission.
Because these message boards bring you to a "breaking point" in which you ENCOURAGE someone to commit suicide, this place isn't for you. Resort to threats of physical violence and call people names all while patting yourself on the back and act like you did nothing wrong. Have you contacted that Buyer that you maliciously deceived and offered a full refund yet? Didn't think so.. >>
Resorts to threats of physical violence? What are you talking about? I never threatened you! Go ahead post the PM - but post the entire message just as I wrote it. There was nothing threatening in that PM. Again, you don't need my permission - just post it. That way the board can continue to see what a liar you are.
1. You lied about the threats of physical violence - post it and prove it! 2. You lied about leaving the boards. You said that you would not come back as long as Axtell was around and 3. You lied about me "maliciously deceiving" some buyer. Please post what you are referring to. What buyer?
Please post some links and prove me wrong. You can't, becasue you don't know how to tell the truth. When I make an accusation I post a link or have some sort of proof. You are just a liar trying to make yourself look better in front of the board. You are a fraud!
You say I "call people names." Again, please post a link to what you are reffering to becasue I have NEVER called anybody a name without being called one FIRST! What do you do, just sit around all day and make this crap up? Get a life!
Ball's in your court - PROVE IT or SHUT UP! >>
Actually, you do need permissions to post PMs. Thanks for allowing me, much appreciated.
For those just joining us, this unsoliced PM came from him after we agreed to drop his conspiracy theory (thread has since gone *poof*). Bad words and/or circumvented bad words edited and the bolded part is your "threat":
<< <i>Date Posted: Sep/29/2007 10:38 AM [edited],
Am I mistaken or have I ever done or said anything to you before this thread? You have no right to question my integrity - new member or not. You think that just because you have been a member of this board for "X" number of years that makes you special? SFW? I promise that I have been in this hobby a lot longer than you and have a flawless reputation! I don't need some [edited] questioning my integrity. SCREW YOU! You hide behind this board because you are a [edited]! You make fun of Axtell's weight, car and everything else because that makes you feel bettter about your own pathetic life. You may have the rest of the board members fooled, but I have you figured out. You are a poser. You should have kept your fight with Axtell, not me. I didn't want a fight and I wasn't looking for one - but when I get pushed into a corner I will come out fighting. I am from Houston too, and if we ever run into each other like you said, no we won't be sharing stories. I have other things in mind. I never did anything to insult you - you started it. You opened up a can of worms. Let's keep this off the public threads - no sense in airing our dirty laundry to the rest of the board. I would love to meet you in person so that we can discuss this further! If you have anything else to say just PM me back with a location and time where we can meet to talk. Keep in mind when all this is over (and it will be over), you opened your fat mouth first! >>
1) What "other things" did you have in mind, hmm? We weren't going to share stories, I don't bat for the other team, and have zero desire to hang with you. Sure sounds like a threat to me and others who have seen it. So what was were you going to do?? Any rational person could read in between the lines, yet I'm a liar? HA!
2) Gosh, this is like the 7th or 8th time you've talked about my self-imposed leave. Don't have any other ammo so you resort to this? Okay, I'll gladly addres it . I did leave the boards for about two months. The ONLY reason I came back is because of the numerous, and I mean a ton, of PMs asking that I come back. Came to the realization that axtell wasn't going anywhere (or at least until he gets himself banned, again) and I still don't post as frequently in the Sports Talk forum. Believe me or not, I frankly don't care, because it's the truth, not a lie like you try to claim.
3) You sold a PSA 7 that you KNEW shouldn't be one because of a surface wrinkle. No disclaimer, no forewarning, nothing. Guess that means you still haven't made the Buyer aware, much less offer a refund. Now I wouldn't call you a liar about this; however, I'll say you lack morals and integrity ALL DAY LONG
As to calling people names, you called Lee everything under the sun (including encouraging him to commit suicide) in addition to all of the things you've said about me. All of that because I called you a d-bag, in passing to someone else (one of the carews) because I didn't want to meet you? But again, the thread has since gone *poof* but that's how it played out.
And as a side note, you claim that I'm a poser, a fraud, and a liar, for whatever reason (probably because you don't have anything intelligent to say). I've never claimed to be better than ANYONE here or "special", EVER. I don't brag or pat my own back when I do something for this community, unlike you, because it defeats the purpose of doing it. Having said that, I have given a lot, and I mean A LOT, away here and refuse for ANYTHING in return.. EVER! Not even a thank you thread, but that's how I roll
I successfully retorted each of your claims. So does that make you a liar and a fraud? Are you going to try and spin it somehow? Go ahead, whatever floats your boat.
Since you won't be able to respond with anything of substance, guess you are going to encourage me to commit suicide too, huh? Sorry but that's not going to happen.
So better luck next time and thanks for playing
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
You said I "resort to threats of physical violence" and nowhere in that PM did I threaten any physical violence. You can read between the lines all you want to or interpret it any way you want to, but nowhere in there is a "threat of physical violence." Just another lie!
The thread you are referring to went "poof?" How convenient? Did the thread go "poof" or are you just a liar and can't back up your allegations?
My challenge to you was to show me where I have ever called anybody a name without first being provoked. You can't do that. Lee provoked me and I fired back! Lee and I have had a few disagreements on the boards before and even though our opinions may differ, I have always respected his opinion. I have NEVER insulted Lee before yesterday and he came flying at me with insults. Damn right I am going to fire back. Anybody else would do the same.
I asked you to show me where I have ever called anybody a name without first being verbally assaulted and you can't. I asked you prove the threats of violence and you can't even do that. When I make an allegation, I post a link or have proof to back it up. The only thing that you have proven is that you know how to use a keyboard. Congrats! Go ahead and type some more rhetoric BS, but I will make you a deal. You don't like me and I don't like you. If you can show me one thread where I have ever called anybody a name without first being verbally assaulted, I will leave the boards. Yip, that's right! And unlike you, I am a man of my words. However, if you can't, then you leave the boards - for good! Deal?
OR
You have been starting crap with me ever since I came on the boards. Even on this particular thread, you are the one who started in. Look at page 3 at 9:33am - you started it . Why do you just continue to start crap with me? You have tried several times on other threads to do it as well and I didn't respond. I have had enough. You just want to sit there behind your computer and continue with the insults when all we have to do is just meet in person and reslove this. We both live in Houston so it should be pretty simple. Let's meet so we can end this and don't have to subject other board members to this crap!
<< <i> You have been starting crap with me ever since I came on the boards. Even on this particular thread, you are the one who started in. Look at page 3 at 9:33am - you started it . Why do you just continue to start crap with me? You have tried several times on other threads to do it as well and I didn't respond. I have had enough. You just want to sit there behind your computer and continue with the insults when all we have to do is just meet in person and reslove this. We both live in Houston so it should be pretty simple. Let's meet so we can end this and don't have to subject other board members to this crap! >>
Well, I consider to be an "other board member" so I just want to get this straight....are you asking him out on a date or are you inviting him to duke it out? I dont want to misinterpret anything.
Wow, lot of spinning... But rather than prove you wrong, again, let's just get this over with and be done with it.
<< <i>If you can show me one thread where I have ever called anybody a name without first being verbally assaulted, I will leave the boards. Yip, that's right! And unlike you, I am a man of my words. However, if you can't, then you leave the boards - for good! Deal? >>
Okay, I'll play your game just so we don't have to see you anymore. You called me an ahole in this thread and I did not verbally assult you.
I didn't know you sold a PSA 7 with a surface wrinkle until after you got pissy at me. I didn't know if you sold it, put it in the registry, or kept it in you collection..
Here I am replying to someone else:
"It's like someone selling a PSA 7 with a known surface wrinkle without disclosing it... Speaks volumes about their integrity."
Then you come out of no where and say:
"Or a better way to put it is like someone saying “As long as axtell remains, I will no longer be an active participant, period.”
If someone says they’re going to leave, they should leave, period. Shows a lot about someone’s character to make such a strong statement like that and then not do so. I would guess either that person’s life is so pathetic that they need the boards or they are just a plain liar! Speaks volumes about their integrity."
To which I respond:
"Where in the world did that come from?
Let me guess, you sold a PSA 7 with a surface wrinkle without disclosing it?"
See those words, "Let me guess"? That means I don't know if you did or didn't, but based upon your opinions and posts, I'm presuming you did based upon your reaction.
And the kicker:
"Yip! I sure did! I paid PSA to grade the card and they said it was a 7 and I sold it as such! I guess they forgot to put that SW qualifier on the label. When I sell a graded card I list it as what it is. They said it was a 7, so I said it was a 7. After all, they are the “experts” and I have only been doing this for only 21 years so I guess I am still learning. I paid them for their opinion and that’s what I got!
How many sellers sell a graded card and then still describe their opinion of condition of the card within the listing? If anybody says yes, then they are a liar and please provide a link to the auction! No, that’s what I paid the “professionals” for - so the customer wouldn’t have to take my word for the condition, they could take PSA’s
I never lied or misled anybody. However, to make the statement that you are leaving and then not do so, well that is a liar! Wouldn't you say so?
You can put lipstick on Barry, but he's still an ahole"
So long, farewell, au revoir, auf wiedersehen, goooooooooooooooodbyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyye!
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Click link - read last post. Just another attempt for you to start your crap, yet I ignored you again.
Just another one of your lies!
I'll repeat this again, becasue it obviously isn't getting through to you. "Please show me where I have ever called anybody a name without FIRST being verbally assaulted." I am not talking about this particular thread - I am talking in general. You were the FIRST one to call names on another thread just as you admitted in your post on this thread at 4:55pm. Should I quote it for you? Here it is, "All of that because I called you a d-bag..."
It worked! You have succeeded! You have been trying to call me out for a long time and now I have finally answered your call. Let's meet in person and work this out!
Click link - read last post. Just another attempt for you to start your crap, yet I ignored you again.
Just another one of your lies!
I'll repeat this again, becasue it obviously isn't getting through to you. "Please show me where I have ever called anybody a name without FIRST being verbally assaulted." I am not talking about this particular thread - I am talking in general. You were the FIRST one to call names on another thread just as you admitted in your post on this thread at 4:55pm. Should I quote it for you? Here it is, "All of that because I called you a d-bag..."
It worked! You have succeeded! You have been trying to call me out for a long time and now I have finally answered your call. Let's meet in person and work this out! >>
Why are you still here?
1) I clicked the link and you didn't answer. Am I a mind reader now?
2) I was replying to cardbender's post but some how, some way, was verbally assulting you.
Now be gone from this place, the natives are getting bored with your spin.
Have a nice day
Oh and edited to add:
You're changing terms.
"If you can show me one thread where I have ever called anybody a name without first being verbally assaulted,"
You called me a name without me first verbally assaulting you in this one thread. Those are your terms, not mine.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
I'd have to get all the stats first before making a prediction on the outcome. Such as age, weight, prior training in martial arts or boxing, general health and physical condition, and other factors.
Handicapping two guys from Houston would be a challenge. But I know for sure that anybody from Houston wouldn't last 5 seconds in a Philly street fight. The Houston guy would come prepared in great physical condition with years of training in something such as Tae-Kwon-Do, while the Philly guy would come overweight and out of shape, but with a metal baseball bat, bang the Houston guy over the head, and the fight would be over.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
I'd have to get all the stats first before making a prediction on the outcome. Such as age, weight, prior training in martial arts or boxing, general health and physical condition, and other factors.
Handicapping two guys from Houston would be a challenge. But I know for sure that anybody from Houston wouldn't last 5 seconds in a Philly street fight. The Houston guy would come prepared in great physical condition with years of training in something such as Tae-Kwon-Do, while the Philly guy would come overweight and out of shape, but with a metal baseball bat, bang the Houston guy over the head, and the fight would be over. >>
Would two guys from Houston make it Nacho Libre style? I'd pay to see that!
Edited to just say, when one resorts to name calling and insults from his computer, but doesn't have the balls to back it up, seek help
And I know just who can help you! Call Dr Steve-O. He has this show on Monday nights (after Raw) where he is "de-wussifying America" and he might be able to help you. I have provided this link for your convenience.
I'd have to get all the stats first before making a prediction on the outcome. Such as age, weight, prior training in martial arts or boxing, general health and physical condition, and other factors.
Handicapping two guys from Houston would be a challenge. But I know for sure that anybody from Houston wouldn't last 5 seconds in a Philly street fight. The Houston guy would come prepared in great physical condition with years of training in something such as Tae-Kwon-Do, while the Philly guy would come overweight and out of shape, but with a metal baseball bat, bang the Houston guy over the head, and the fight would be over. >>
Would two guys from Houston make it Nacho Libre style? I'd pay to see that! >>
Actually two guys from Houston it would probably be dueling Colt 45's, ten paces turn around and fire. LOL
Yea, that scene in that movie was brutal - of course if it had been a scene from Friday the 13th, the camera wouldn't have cut away.
<< <i>And in this corner from Houston, Texas, standing 6'2" and weighing in at 220lbs is vintagetoppsguy
No Tae-Kwon-Do or anything like that, but I was trained at the School of Hard Knox - Fort Knox, KY - Class of April 1992
I was a 91B (It think the MOS has changed now) - a field medic - so after I beat him within inches of his life, I would then do the right thing and resuscitate him
<< <i>Would two guys from Houston make it Nacho Libre style? I'd pay to see that! >>
I am thinking Pay Per View here. >>
Stown - bad luck man - ya gotta learn to find guys 5' 3" and triple digits in age. Or at least do an Andy Kaufman and wrestle something worth grabbing and getting a little beat up for. LOL
Edited to just say, when one resorts to threats of physical violence, seek help
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
There's definitely some money-making potential here!
Steve, you have the background in bookmaking, so you can set the odds!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
OK, this is what I would do. I would get two or three of my closest friends to bid the hell out of it, say 70-80,000+, make the transaction then have the buyer, who is my friend, send the card and the receipt to PSA to get his money back for THIER mistake. We split the profit after EBay fees! Then I would take a trip to Japan or something! Maybe with the left over monies I would buy a nice trim device and take up trimiming cards. I mean, have you seen the stuff that these dealers buy at shows? They are closer to eights before they work their magic, but yet they get psa 9's and higher! Hmm, gotchya thinkin huh?
<< <i>There's definitely some money-making potential here!
Steve, you have the background in bookmaking, so you can set the odds! >>
Vintage edited the stats on his post and Stown didn't provide any stats so the odds on the bout are postponed indefinitely. LOL >>
Wonder why he did that? Probably because he resorted to physical violence, again. Too bad you quoted him, huh?
<< <i>And in this corner from Houston, Texas, standing 6'2" and weighing in at 220lbs is vintagetoppsguy
No Tae-Kwon-Do or anything like that, but I was trained at the School of Hard Knox - Fort Knox, KY - Class of April 1992
I was a 91B (It think the MOS has changed now) - a field medic - so after I beat him within inches of his life, I would then do the right thing and resuscitate him >>
Good luck, tough guy
Edited to add: Not to make fun of the mentally ill but I think he suffers from schizophrenia or possibly split personality disorder... Tells one respected member to commit suicide, threatens another with physical violence, and then turns around and starts two contests for people to like him. Buying friends gets you no where in life. Like I said, seek help because you oviously need it.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
I for one am very impressed, and, would also like to add that I hate when people speak for me and others w/o permission. Lastly if a person does not want to see a thread simply do not open it.........
I'd have to get all the stats first before making a prediction on the outcome. Such as age, weight, prior training in martial arts or boxing, general health and physical condition, and other factors.
Handicapping two guys from Houston would be a challenge. But I know for sure that anybody from Houston wouldn't last 5 seconds in a Philly street fight. The Houston guy would come prepared in great physical condition with years of training in something such as Tae-Kwon-Do, while the Philly guy would come overweight and out of shape, but with a metal baseball bat, bang the Houston guy over the head, and the fight would be over. >>
I just wanted you all to know that I decided to take vintagetoppsguy's advice and kill myself. Ironically enough I was reincarnated as a 31 year old smart ass who thinks vintagetoppsguy is a tool, so I guess it all evens out in the end.
How was hades? The reason I ask, in a drunken state, I purchased a penthouse/basement from some door-to-door salesman. Said I got a great discount on the presale.
Had I known you were going to take him up on his enouragement, I would have left a key under the door mat.
Sorry about that.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
"It worked! You have succeeded! You have been trying to call me out for a long time and now I have finally answered your call. Let's meet in person and work this out! "
I'm optimistic that the brawl will be as good, if not better than the "Cripple Fight" episode of South Park!
p.s.
"The "cripple fight" that takes place between Jimmy and Timmy is a re-creation of the fight between Keith David and Roddy Piper from They Live (1988)."
Just to set the record straight, I have no first-hand knowledge of vintagetoppsguy doing anything shady in terms of selling cards or dealing with board members. I apologize to anybody who might have inferred that from what I said.
I had a card came back trimmed from PSA and then came back graded. This is a foolish argument in my eyes. Maybe that is why republicans are so efficient in debate
<<<I wonder why that Killebrew doesnt show up anymore when you look it up using the cert verification? Did PSA buy it back or what>>>
The card is listed in a 30 day auction but you're right, no cert record in PSAs database. Obviously something happened. Looks to me like PSA stepped up on this one but maybe the seller didn't?
Mark B.
Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards
My PSA Registry Sets
34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
<< <i> Looks to me like PSA stepped up on this one but maybe the seller didn't? >>
I dont think so, probably the other way around. I think PSA removed it without buying it back. Classy move >>
What would make you assume that? Maybe the seller hasn't had a chance to pull the card. Maybe PSA pulled the cert number and has contacted the seller to negotiate the return/correction of the grade. Maybe the seller was unwilling or wanted the world for an 8OC. All we can do right now is speculate, but making an accusation that PSA probably removed the cert from their database and left the seller high and dry could be deemed as libel.
Looking for in PSA graded 1. 75-76 Topps Keith/Jamaal Wilkes in Psa 8+ 2. 1971-72 Trio stickers PSA 8+ 3. BSKB 1977-78 topps psa 10
Basketball Autos 1992 Courtside Flashback Action Packed HOF Autos(need elvin hayes,both bill bradley,and the 1st bill walton) 2001 and 2005 Greats of the Game UD=retro,epic,legends,legendary,generations and chronology 2006 Topps Style 1952 Fan Favorites Autos #/10 (Refractor Autos) Press Pass Legends
Looking for in PSA graded 1. 75-76 Topps Keith/Jamaal Wilkes in Psa 8+ 2. 1971-72 Trio stickers PSA 8+ 3. BSKB 1977-78 topps psa 10
Basketball Autos 1992 Courtside Flashback Action Packed HOF Autos(need elvin hayes,both bill bradley,and the 1st bill walton) 2001 and 2005 Greats of the Game UD=retro,epic,legends,legendary,generations and chronology 2006 Topps Style 1952 Fan Favorites Autos #/10 (Refractor Autos) Press Pass Legends
the proof will be in proverbail pudding on monday when the pop reports comes out. it that card goes from 2 to 1 in the 10 category i think PSA will have done their job.
<< <i><< Looks to me like PSA stepped up on this one but maybe the seller didn't? >>
I dont think so, probably the other way around. I think PSA removed it without buying it back. Classy move >>
You are exactly right, psafan! They removed the certification number from their database w/o consent from the seller. I emailed the seller a few days ago (this was before he ended the auction) and asked him why the cert number was no longer showing up in PSA's data base? He emailed me back this morning and said, "This is because PSA is a dishonest company and will be responding to our legal inquiry."
<< <i>You are exactly right, psafan! They removed the certification number from their database w/o consent from the seller. I emailed the seller a few days ago (this was before he ended the auction) and asked him why the cert number was no longer showing up in PSA's data base? He emailed me back this morning and said, "This is because PSA is a dishonest company and will be responding to our legal inquiry." >>
As always, half the story is just that.
Whats to say PSA hasn't contacted the seller to negotiate the return and correction of grade and the seller was uncooperative? Any reasonable person would have to think that a publicly traded organization like PSA would at least try to do the right thing. Based on the OBVIOUS overgrade and the ridiculous price asked by the seller, I take the seller's comments with a grain of salt.
Edited to add that considering the obvious mistake, it is in PSA's best interest to protect their reputation. I don't think they need or should need "consent" to pull the cert number from THEIR database. If they had to go this route, it was likely due to an unethical seller being unreasonable about compensation. If the seller wants to keep the card in the wrong holder, that's his choice, but it will make it tough to sell. PSA is protecting their community by getting these incorrect flips off the market. JMHO
I for one am very impressed, and, would also like to add that I hate when people speak for me and others w/o permission. Lastly if a person does not want to see a thread simply do not open it.........
Steve >>
Steve, I really think you have some anger and/or inferiority issues.
sorry for "speaking for you."
If you like to read 30+ posts about two idiots playing "internet tough guy," that is definitely your problem.
Comments
<< <i>Why don't you post that unsolicted PM you sent me, hmm? Tough, arrogant, know-it-all guy behind the scenes but act like Mr. Unquestionable Integrity Victim for everyone else. Heck, I'll gladly post it with your permission.
Because these message boards bring you to a "breaking point" in which you ENCOURAGE someone to commit suicide, this place isn't for you. Resort to threats of physical violence and call people names all while patting yourself on the back and act like you did nothing wrong. Have you contacted that Buyer that you maliciously deceived and offered a full refund yet? Didn't think so.. >>
Resorts to threats of physical violence? What are you talking about? I never threatened you! Go ahead post the PM - but post the entire message just as I wrote it. There was nothing threatening in that PM. Again, you don't need my permission - just post it. That way the board can continue to see what a liar you are.
1. You lied about the threats of physical violence - post it and prove it!
2. You lied about leaving the boards. You said that you would not come back as long as Axtell was around and
3. You lied about me "maliciously deceiving" some buyer. Please post what you are referring to. What buyer?
Please post some links and prove me wrong. You can't, becasue you don't know how to tell the truth. When I make an accusation I post a link or have some sort of proof. You are just a liar trying to make yourself look better in front of the board. You are a fraud!
You say I "call people names." Again, please post a link to what you are reffering to becasue I have NEVER called anybody a name without being called one FIRST! What do you do, just sit around all day and make this crap up? Get a life!
Ball's in your court - PROVE IT or SHUT UP!
All PSA 10's are not created equal. You can grab a handful of PSA 10's of the same card and compare them and find FLAWS with centering or other imperfections on virtually every one. I have seen some 9's that look better than 10's and are even centered better. Before we start mauling each other, remember that this entire thread was started due to the declining quality of PSA's service recently.
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<< <i>Why don't you post that unsolicted PM you sent me, hmm? Tough, arrogant, know-it-all guy behind the scenes but act like Mr. Unquestionable Integrity Victim for everyone else. Heck, I'll gladly post it with your permission.
Because these message boards bring you to a "breaking point" in which you ENCOURAGE someone to commit suicide, this place isn't for you. Resort to threats of physical violence and call people names all while patting yourself on the back and act like you did nothing wrong. Have you contacted that Buyer that you maliciously deceived and offered a full refund yet? Didn't think so.. >>
Resorts to threats of physical violence? What are you talking about? I never threatened you! Go ahead post the PM - but post the entire message just as I wrote it. There was nothing threatening in that PM. Again, you don't need my permission - just post it. That way the board can continue to see what a liar you are.
1. You lied about the threats of physical violence - post it and prove it!
2. You lied about leaving the boards. You said that you would not come back as long as Axtell was around and
3. You lied about me "maliciously deceiving" some buyer. Please post what you are referring to. What buyer?
Please post some links and prove me wrong. You can't, becasue you don't know how to tell the truth. When I make an accusation I post a link or have some sort of proof. You are just a liar trying to make yourself look better in front of the board. You are a fraud!
You say I "call people names." Again, please post a link to what you are reffering to becasue I have NEVER called anybody a name without being called one FIRST! What do you do, just sit around all day and make this crap up? Get a life!
Ball's in your court - PROVE IT or SHUT UP! >>
Actually, you do need permissions to post PMs. Thanks for allowing me, much appreciated.
For those just joining us, this unsoliced PM came from him after we agreed to drop his conspiracy theory (thread has since gone *poof*). Bad words and/or circumvented bad words edited and the bolded part is your "threat":
<< <i>Date Posted: Sep/29/2007 10:38 AM
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Am I mistaken or have I ever done or said anything to you before this thread? You have no right to question my integrity - new member or not. You think that just because you have been a member of this board for "X" number of years that makes you special? SFW? I promise that I have been in this hobby a lot longer than you and have a flawless reputation! I don't need some [edited] questioning my integrity. SCREW YOU! You hide behind this board because you are a [edited]! You make fun of Axtell's weight, car and everything else because that makes you feel bettter about your own pathetic life. You may have the rest of the board members fooled, but I have you figured out. You are a poser. You should have kept your fight with Axtell, not me. I didn't want a fight and I wasn't looking for one - but when I get pushed into a corner I will come out fighting. I am from Houston too, and if we ever run into each other like you said, no we won't be sharing stories. I have other things in mind. I never did anything to insult you - you started it. You opened up a can of worms. Let's keep this off the public threads - no sense in airing our dirty laundry to the rest of the board. I would love to meet you in person so that we can discuss this further! If you have anything else to say just PM me back with a location and time where we can meet to talk. Keep in mind when all this is over (and it will be over), you opened your fat mouth first! >>
1) What "other things" did you have in mind, hmm? We weren't going to share stories, I don't bat for the other team, and have zero desire to hang with you. Sure sounds like a threat to me and others who have seen it. So what was were you going to do?? Any rational person could read in between the lines, yet I'm a liar? HA!
2) Gosh, this is like the 7th or 8th time you've talked about my self-imposed leave. Don't have any other ammo so you resort to this? Okay, I'll gladly addres it . I did leave the boards for about two months. The ONLY reason I came back is because of the numerous, and I mean a ton, of PMs asking that I come back. Came to the realization that axtell wasn't going anywhere (or at least until he gets himself banned, again) and I still don't post as frequently in the Sports Talk forum. Believe me or not, I frankly don't care, because it's the truth, not a lie like you try to claim.
3) You sold a PSA 7 that you KNEW shouldn't be one because of a surface wrinkle. No disclaimer, no forewarning, nothing. Guess that means you still haven't made the Buyer aware, much less offer a refund. Now I wouldn't call you a liar about this; however, I'll say you lack morals and integrity ALL DAY LONG
As to calling people names, you called Lee everything under the sun (including encouraging him to commit suicide) in addition to all of the things you've said about me. All of that because I called you a d-bag, in passing to someone else (one of the carews) because I didn't want to meet you? But again, the thread has since gone *poof* but that's how it played out.
And as a side note, you claim that I'm a poser, a fraud, and a liar, for whatever reason (probably because you don't have anything intelligent to say). I've never claimed to be better than ANYONE here or "special", EVER. I don't brag or pat my own back when I do something for this community, unlike you, because it defeats the purpose of doing it. Having said that, I have given a lot, and I mean A LOT, away here and refuse for ANYTHING in return.. EVER! Not even a thank you thread, but that's how I roll
I successfully retorted each of your claims. So does that make you a liar and a fraud? Are you going to try and spin it somehow? Go ahead, whatever floats your boat.
Since you won't be able to respond with anything of substance, guess you are going to encourage me to commit suicide too, huh? Sorry but that's not going to happen.
So better luck next time and thanks for playing
The thread you are referring to went "poof?" How convenient? Did the thread go "poof" or are you just a liar and can't back up your allegations?
My challenge to you was to show me where I have ever called anybody a name without first being provoked. You can't do that. Lee provoked me and I fired back! Lee and I have had a few disagreements on the boards before and even though our opinions may differ, I have always respected his opinion. I have NEVER insulted Lee before yesterday and he came flying at me with insults. Damn right I am going to fire back. Anybody else would do the same.
I asked you to show me where I have ever called anybody a name without first being verbally assaulted and you can't. I asked you prove the threats of violence and you can't even do that. When I make an allegation, I post a link or have proof to back it up. The only thing that you have proven is that you know how to use a keyboard. Congrats! Go ahead and type some more rhetoric BS, but I will make you a deal. You don't like me and I don't like you. If you can show me one thread where I have ever called anybody a name without first being verbally assaulted, I will leave the boards. Yip, that's right! And unlike you, I am a man of my words. However, if you can't, then you leave the boards - for good! Deal?
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You have been starting crap with me ever since I came on the boards. Even on this particular thread, you are the one who started in. Look at page 3 at 9:33am - you started it . Why do you just continue to start crap with me? You have tried several times on other threads to do it as well and I didn't respond. I have had enough. You just want to sit there behind your computer and continue with the insults when all we have to do is just meet in person and reslove this. We both live in Houston so it should be pretty simple. Let's meet so we can end this and don't have to subject other board members to this crap!
Steve
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You have been starting crap with me ever since I came on the boards. Even on this particular thread, you are the one who started in. Look at page 3 at 9:33am - you started it . Why do you just continue to start crap with me? You have tried several times on other threads to do it as well and I didn't respond. I have had enough. You just want to sit there behind your computer and continue with the insults when all we have to do is just meet in person and reslove this. We both live in Houston so it should be pretty simple. Let's meet so we can end this and don't have to subject other board members to this crap! >>
Well, I consider to be an "other board member" so I just want to get this straight....are you asking him out on a date or are you inviting him to duke it out? I dont want to misinterpret anything.
<< <i>If you can show me one thread where I have ever called anybody a name without first being verbally assaulted, I will leave the boards. Yip, that's right! And unlike you, I am a man of my words. However, if you can't, then you leave the boards - for good! Deal? >>
Okay, I'll play your game just so we don't have to see you anymore. You called me an ahole in this thread and I did not verbally assult you.
I didn't know you sold a PSA 7 with a surface wrinkle until after you got pissy at me. I didn't know if you sold it, put it in the registry, or kept it in you collection..
Here I am replying to someone else:
"It's like someone selling a PSA 7 with a known surface wrinkle without disclosing it... Speaks volumes about their integrity."
Then you come out of no where and say:
"Or a better way to put it is like someone saying “As long as axtell remains, I will no longer be an active participant, period.”
If someone says they’re going to leave, they should leave, period. Shows a lot about someone’s character to make such a strong statement like that and then not do so. I would guess either that person’s life is so pathetic that they need the boards or they are just a plain liar! Speaks volumes about their integrity."
To which I respond:
"Where in the world did that come from?
Let me guess, you sold a PSA 7 with a surface wrinkle without disclosing it?"
See those words, "Let me guess"? That means I don't know if you did or didn't, but based upon your opinions and posts, I'm presuming you did based upon your reaction.
And the kicker:
"Yip! I sure did! I paid PSA to grade the card and they said it was a 7 and I sold it as such! I guess they forgot to put that SW qualifier on the label. When I sell a graded card I list it as what it is. They said it was a 7, so I said it was a 7. After all, they are the “experts” and I have only been doing this for only 21 years so I guess I am still learning. I paid them for their opinion and that’s what I got!
How many sellers sell a graded card and then still describe their opinion of condition of the card within the listing? If anybody says yes, then they are a liar and please provide a link to the auction! No, that’s what I paid the “professionals” for - so the customer wouldn’t have to take my word for the condition, they could take PSA’s
I never lied or misled anybody. However, to make the statement that you are leaving and then not do so, well that is a liar! Wouldn't you say so?
You can put lipstick on Barry, but he's still an ahole"
So long, farewell, au revoir, auf wiedersehen, goooooooooooooooodbyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyye!
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Click link - read last post. Just another attempt for you to start your crap, yet I ignored you again.
Just another one of your lies!
I'll repeat this again, becasue it obviously isn't getting through to you. "Please show me where I have ever called anybody a name without FIRST being verbally assaulted." I am not talking about this particular thread - I am talking in general. You were the FIRST one to call names on another thread just as you admitted in your post on this thread at 4:55pm. Should I quote it for you? Here it is, "All of that because I called you a d-bag..."
It worked! You have succeeded! You have been trying to call me out for a long time and now I have finally answered your call. Let's meet in person and work this out!
<< <i>Continue to play your games, but if you didn't know I sold a PSA 7 with a surface wrinkle, then why did you make this post 5 days earlier?
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Click link - read last post. Just another attempt for you to start your crap, yet I ignored you again.
Just another one of your lies!
I'll repeat this again, becasue it obviously isn't getting through to you. "Please show me where I have ever called anybody a name without FIRST being verbally assaulted." I am not talking about this particular thread - I am talking in general. You were the FIRST one to call names on another thread just as you admitted in your post on this thread at 4:55pm. Should I quote it for you? Here it is, "All of that because I called you a d-bag..."
It worked! You have succeeded! You have been trying to call me out for a long time and now I have finally answered your call. Let's meet in person and work this out! >>
Why are you still here?
1) I clicked the link and you didn't answer. Am I a mind reader now?
2) I was replying to cardbender's post but some how, some way, was verbally assulting you.
Now be gone from this place, the natives are getting bored with your spin.
Have a nice day
Oh and edited to add:
You're changing terms.
"If you can show me one thread where I have ever called anybody a name without first being verbally assaulted,"
You called me a name without me first verbally assaulting you in this one thread. Those are your terms, not mine.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
+1
Sorry for the interruption.
<< <i>Lets get it on!!!!!! >>
I'd have to get all the stats first before making a prediction on the outcome. Such as age, weight, prior training in martial arts or boxing, general health and physical condition, and other factors.
Handicapping two guys from Houston would be a challenge. But I know for sure that anybody from Houston wouldn't last 5 seconds in a Philly street fight. The Houston guy would come prepared in great physical condition with years of training in something such as Tae-Kwon-Do, while the Philly guy would come overweight and out of shape, but with a metal baseball bat, bang the Houston guy over the head, and the fight would be over.
: shudders while thinking of "that" scene :
<< <i>Phili guy would go American History X style, huh.
: shudders while thinking of "that" scene : >>
Funny you say that...I just watched that movie for the first time last week. Insane.
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<< <i>Lets get it on!!!!!! >>
I'd have to get all the stats first before making a prediction on the outcome. Such as age, weight, prior training in martial arts or boxing, general health and physical condition, and other factors.
Handicapping two guys from Houston would be a challenge. But I know for sure that anybody from Houston wouldn't last 5 seconds in a Philly street fight. The Houston guy would come prepared in great physical condition with years of training in something such as Tae-Kwon-Do, while the Philly guy would come overweight and out of shape, but with a metal baseball bat, bang the Houston guy over the head, and the fight would be over. >>
Would two guys from Houston make it Nacho Libre style? I'd pay to see that!
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<< <i>Lets get it on!!!!!! >>
I'd have to get all the stats first before making a prediction on the outcome. Such as age, weight, prior training in martial arts or boxing, general health and physical condition, and other factors.
Handicapping two guys from Houston would be a challenge. But I know for sure that anybody from Houston wouldn't last 5 seconds in a Philly street fight. The Houston guy would come prepared in great physical condition with years of training in something such as Tae-Kwon-Do, while the Philly guy would come overweight and out of shape, but with a metal baseball bat, bang the Houston guy over the head, and the fight would be over. >>
Would two guys from Houston make it Nacho Libre style? I'd pay to see that! >>
Actually two guys from Houston it would probably be dueling Colt 45's, ten paces turn around and fire. LOL
Yea, that scene in that movie was brutal - of course if it had been a scene from Friday the 13th, the camera wouldn't have cut away.
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<< <i>And in this corner from Houston, Texas, standing 6'2" and weighing in at 220lbs is vintagetoppsguy
No Tae-Kwon-Do or anything like that, but I was trained at the School of Hard Knox - Fort Knox, KY - Class of April 1992
I was a 91B (It think the MOS has changed now) - a field medic - so after I beat him within inches of his life, I would then do the right thing and resuscitate him
<< <i>Would two guys from Houston make it Nacho Libre style? I'd pay to see that! >>
I am thinking Pay Per View here. >>
Stown - bad luck man - ya gotta learn to find guys 5' 3" and triple digits in age. Or at least do an Andy Kaufman and wrestle something worth grabbing and getting a little beat up for. LOL
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No one is impressed here.
Thanks
Steve, you have the background in bookmaking, so you can set the odds!
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<< <i>There's definitely some money-making potential here!
Steve, you have the background in bookmaking, so you can set the odds!
Vintage edited the stats on his post and Stown didn't provide any stats so the odds on the bout are postponed indefinitely. LOL
~the turtle~
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<< <i>There's definitely some money-making potential here!
Steve, you have the background in bookmaking, so you can set the odds!
Vintage edited the stats on his post and Stown didn't provide any stats so the odds on the bout are postponed indefinitely. LOL >>
Wonder why he did that? Probably because he resorted to physical violence, again. Too bad you quoted him, huh?
<< <i>And in this corner from Houston, Texas, standing 6'2" and weighing in at 220lbs is vintagetoppsguy
No Tae-Kwon-Do or anything like that, but I was trained at the School of Hard Knox - Fort Knox, KY - Class of April 1992
I was a 91B (It think the MOS has changed now) - a field medic - so after I beat him within inches of his life, I would then do the right thing and resuscitate him
Good luck, tough guy
Edited to add: Not to make fun of the mentally ill but I think he suffers from schizophrenia or possibly split personality disorder... Tells one respected member to commit suicide, threatens another with physical violence, and then turns around and starts two contests for people to like him. Buying friends gets you no where in life. Like I said, seek help because you oviously need it.
No one is impressed here.
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I for one am very impressed, and, would also like to add that I hate when people speak for me and others w/o permission. Lastly if a person does not want to see a thread simply do not open it.........
Steve
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<< <i>Lets get it on!!!!!! >>
I'd have to get all the stats first before making a prediction on the outcome. Such as age, weight, prior training in martial arts or boxing, general health and physical condition, and other factors.
Handicapping two guys from Houston would be a challenge. But I know for sure that anybody from Houston wouldn't last 5 seconds in a Philly street fight. The Houston guy would come prepared in great physical condition with years of training in something such as Tae-Kwon-Do, while the Philly guy would come overweight and out of shape, but with a metal baseball bat, bang the Houston guy over the head, and the fight would be over. >>
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How was hades? The reason I ask, in a drunken state, I purchased a penthouse/basement from some door-to-door salesman. Said I got a great discount on the presale.
Had I known you were going to take him up on his enouragement, I would have left a key under the door mat.
Sorry about that.
I'm optimistic that the brawl will be as good, if not better than the "Cripple Fight" episode of South Park!
p.s.
"The "cripple fight" that takes place between Jimmy and Timmy is a re-creation of the fight between Keith David and Roddy Piper from They Live (1988)."
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mmmmmmmmmmmmm...................Elizabeth Perkins
The card is listed in a 30 day auction but you're right, no cert record in PSAs database. Obviously something happened. Looks to me like PSA stepped up on this one but maybe the seller didn't?
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<< <i> Looks to me like PSA stepped up on this one but maybe the seller didn't? >>
I dont think so, probably the other way around. I think PSA removed it without buying it back. Classy move
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<< <i> Looks to me like PSA stepped up on this one but maybe the seller didn't? >>
I dont think so, probably the other way around. I think PSA removed it without buying it back. Classy move >>
What would make you assume that? Maybe the seller hasn't had a chance to pull the card. Maybe PSA pulled the cert number and has contacted the seller to negotiate the return/correction of the grade. Maybe the seller was unwilling or wanted the world for an 8OC. All we can do right now is speculate, but making an accusation that PSA probably removed the cert from their database and left the seller high and dry could be deemed as libel.
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2. 1971-72 Trio stickers PSA 8+
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1. 75-76 Topps Keith/Jamaal Wilkes in Psa 8+
2. 1971-72 Trio stickers PSA 8+
3. BSKB 1977-78 topps psa 10
Basketball Autos
1992 Courtside Flashback
Action Packed HOF Autos(need elvin hayes,both bill bradley,and the 1st bill walton)
2001 and 2005 Greats of the Game
UD=retro,epic,legends,legendary,generations and chronology
2006 Topps Style 1952 Fan Favorites Autos #/10 (Refractor Autos)
Press Pass Legends
<< <i><< Looks to me like PSA stepped up on this one but maybe the seller didn't? >>
I dont think so, probably the other way around. I think PSA removed it without buying it back. Classy move >>
You are exactly right, psafan! They removed the certification number from their database w/o consent from the seller. I emailed the seller a few days ago (this was before he ended the auction) and asked him why the cert number was no longer showing up in PSA's data base? He emailed me back this morning and said, "This is because PSA is a dishonest company and will be responding to our legal inquiry."
<< <i>You are exactly right, psafan! They removed the certification number from their database w/o consent from the seller. I emailed the seller a few days ago (this was before he ended the auction) and asked him why the cert number was no longer showing up in PSA's data base? He emailed me back this morning and said, "This is because PSA is a dishonest company and will be responding to our legal inquiry." >>
As always, half the story is just that.
Whats to say PSA hasn't contacted the seller to negotiate the return and correction of grade and the seller was uncooperative? Any reasonable person would have to think that a publicly traded organization like PSA would at least try to do the right thing. Based on the OBVIOUS overgrade and the ridiculous price asked by the seller, I take the seller's comments with a grain of salt.
Edited to add that considering the obvious mistake, it is in PSA's best interest to protect their reputation. I don't think they need or should need "consent" to pull the cert number from THEIR database. If they had to go this route, it was likely due to an unethical seller being unreasonable about compensation. If the seller wants to keep the card in the wrong holder, that's his choice, but it will make it tough to sell. PSA is protecting their community by getting these incorrect flips off the market. JMHO
<< <i>would you two idiots please start arguing via PM?
No one is impressed here.
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I for one am very impressed, and, would also like to add that I hate when people speak for me and others w/o permission. Lastly if a person does not want to see a thread simply do not open it.........
Steve >>
Steve, I really think you have some anger and/or inferiority issues.
sorry for "speaking for you."
If you like to read 30+ posts about two idiots playing "internet tough guy," that is definitely your problem.