one ugly looking 10--can i get a pixel count from the congregation?
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i believe in the 11th commandment--never slam someone elses psa graded card or what they choose to collect.
so forgive for what i am about to say. i am huge 1966 collector but even i would not go after this one.
i am no pixel expert but this one seems to test the 60/40 rule for a 10 and with a diamond cut to boot.
the killer
so forgive for what i am about to say. i am huge 1966 collector but even i would not go after this one.
i am no pixel expert but this one seems to test the 60/40 rule for a 10 and with a diamond cut to boot.
the killer
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1994 Pro Line Live
TheDallasCowboyBackfieldProject
Jeff
Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards
My PSA Registry Sets
34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
Uh, must be an optical illusion or something.
Nothing to see here.. Move along, move along..
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
<< <i>is this for real? >>
I really cant see it but you never know?
It could have been sub'd by 4sc?
1994 Pro Line Live
TheDallasCowboyBackfieldProject
i would tend to agree.
what is the psa buyback process? you buy it, send it to them, if the grade is incorrect, they buy it back from you? what do they do with the card and pop report? how many of you would've even submitted that period?
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
PSA, please look at this one and revoke the license/certification/etc of the person that graded that one. Very dissapointing.
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
WaltDisneyBoards
<< <i>lmm,
i would tend to agree.
what is the psa buyback process? you buy it, send it to them, if the grade is incorrect, they buy it back from you? what do they do with the card and pop report? how many of you would've even submitted that period? >>
I sent a damged card back to them once. They slapped the correct grade on it and sent it back to me with 30.00 worth of vouchers. Im sure they would have sent a check but I wanted the vouchers.
The card was a 10 of some obscure rb that played for Dallas. Emmitt something if I remember correctly? Its now an 8
1994 Pro Line Live
TheDallasCowboyBackfieldProject
Edit: I dare say even PRO would have graded this card a 9!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
<< <i>Awful. This had to be a mix-up with another card, right??
Edit: I dare say even PRO would have graded this card a 9! >>
HAHAHAHAHAHA, that was a good one!
<< <i>HAHAHAHAHAHA, that was a good one!
That makes no sense.
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<< <i>HAHAHAHAHAHA, that was a good one!
That makes no sense. >>
I agree.
I'm sure psa graders are all taught the bgs grading requirements.
1994 Pro Line Live
TheDallasCowboyBackfieldProject
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<< <i>HAHAHAHAHAHA, that was a good one!
That makes no sense. >>
I agree.
I'm sure psa graders are all taught the bgs grading requirements. >>
I,m sure their not tought the bgs grading requirements but i'm sure they see when a card is a pristine quality and since they don't use a pristine grading system they gave it a 10 based on the Surface, Corners and Edges? Sure the Centering was way off but maybe since the other categories were better than their usual Gem 10 then they went ahead and gave it a 10? I'm sure you know what i'm talking about.
<< <i>I,m sure their not tought the bgs grading requirements but i'm sure they see when a card is a pristine quality and since they don't use a pristine grading system they gave it a 10 based on the Surface, Corners and Edges? Sure the Centering was way off but maybe since the other categories were better than their usual Gem 10 then they went ahead and gave it a 10? I'm sure you know what i'm talking about. >>
Actually I think I never know what you're talking about. Ever. I think you just like to post and then read it back to yourself.
Could someone from PSA chime in?
bobsbbcards SGC Registry Sets
Maybe if they paid their graders slightly more than your average fast food joint employee we might have some faith in the future of 3rd party grading.
Great job PSA, keep up the good work
-- Yogi Berra
I sent Joe a copy of this for chits and giggles..........
Bobs,
I'd have to agree with you on this. Probably put the wrong grade on the wrong line when putting in the grades. Ive had quite a few. Also have seen wrong grade on the flip when punching in the serial #'s.
Gator
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Could someone from PSA chime in? >>
No, someone from PSA will ONLY chime in when it is to announce that too many multiple posts are being made in the buy, sell & trade forum. They have their priorities straight and I suggest we all reflect on what is truly important as well.
-- Yogi Berra
i agree with that statement 100% beginning to end.
the 1966 set is a good sized one at 598 cards. not suprisingly the registry is very competitive. killebrew obviously is no common. several mistakes like that and the whole concept of the registry is skewed by someone with deep pockets and no scruples about quality.
i myself am not as picky as others when it comes to cards. some may accuse me of buying the holder vs. the card, but this is a joke and i hope mr. orlando does read this and corrects this err.
<< <i>someone mentioned wiwag. wasn't wiwag with the older flips? >>
La, La, La, La, La, La,
I believe it was an honest mistake by PSA - mistakes are going to happen. Yes, it looks like an 8 to me. However, the seller paid them to peform a service and they did it - and he gets bashed for trying to sell it. He is a dealer. That's what he does - buys cards, sends them in to be graded and re-sells them. He's not the one who made the mistake here.
It's amazing the Holier than thou attitudes. Who really wouldn't do the same thing? I would sell it if it were mine. What is he supposed to do with it?
<< <i>It's amazing the Holier than thou attitudes. Who really wouldn't do the same thing? I would sell it if it were mine. What is he supposed to do with it? >>
He should contact PSA knowing that it is not a 10 and try to find out what this card is doing a 10 holder and what should be done about it. At least that is what I would do.
<< <i>While dealers may not always agree with their grades, how many of them have you ever known that have sent a card back to PSA for a second look. They don't! They sell the card and move on! I'm sure that they get 7's that they thought were 8's and they get 8's that they thought were 9's - but it's too time consuming for them to argue the point. They sell the card and maybe break even or only make very little profit. Why should this case be any different? If this dealer has never sent a card back for a review, why should he do it on this one? You take the good with the bad. >>
Well, I'm a seller that has sent cards back to PSA to have them review them for bumps (downward) on over graded cards I've won on ebay. I sent back 10 cards earlier this year that I felt were very badly 'overgraded'. PSA agreed with me on six of them and agreed to compensate me for their value with some grading vouchers. They sent the cards back in lower graded holders and I sold them this way. I still have the other ugly 8's here that they didn't drop in grade.
They wanted that trash off the market and so did I.
I didn't feel right about selling cards that I felt were grossly overgraded. My rep along with PSA's is on the line every time you sell a graded card.
Obviously grading mistakes happen quite a lot just based on the volume of cards being graded at PSA, but this Killebrew is clearly not a common. I'm sure it's a flip error as this card is at best a PSA 8.
As another poster mentioned this seller should negotiate with PSA to have this card taken off the market and put in it's correct holder and I couldn't agree more.
Why pass the buck? This sellers rep is on the line, I would think they wouldn't want to be known for selling slider graded cards. Can you imagine winning that card in an auction sight unseen? Any buyer would want a refund and so should this seller.
Take the trash off the market.
I think the issue is not that he is selling it; the issue is he is selling a card he knows is, at best an 8, with a pop of over 100, and a $50 value, for a BIN of $3995. Although I seriously doubt there is anyone who is stupid enough to buy it, you never know on ebay. Somebody may get screwed out of close to $4,000. Maybe you would be ok with this, but I think most people on these boards would not feel right about it and wouldn't sell the card under these conditions.
What he should do with it is sell it with no reserve or have PSA deal with the problem. I don't see how this is not a problem for the seller and/or PSA if someone shells out this kind of money and finds out they got seriously "taken".
Honestly, I would be very surprised if this card does not have some kind of history associated with it. I can't believe this is the first time this card has "surfaced".
Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards
My PSA Registry Sets
34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
Shane
<< <i>I sent Joe a copy of this for chits and giggles.......... >>
I'm sure Joe never gets tired of these whiney emails. I'll bet he gets -- what -- 30-40 per day??
just a thought.
<< <i>I'm sure Joe never gets tired of these whiney emails. I'll bet he gets -- what -- 30-40 per day?? >>
I'm sure Joe does get a lot of whiny e-mails, but this could not be considered one of them. This is quite obviously not a grader error. A second grader could see that. It's either a case of a switched holder or a Photoshop job, but the one thing that's certain is that the card shown in the holder is not a 10. Far from it. I would think (hope) that Joe would want to be alerted to auctions like this.
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<< <i>While dealers may not always agree with their grades, how many of them have you ever known that have sent a card back to PSA for a second look. They don't! They sell the card and move on! I'm sure that they get 7's that they thought were 8's and they get 8's that they thought were 9's - but it's too time consuming for them to argue the point. They sell the card and maybe break even or only make very little profit. Why should this case be any different? If this dealer has never sent a card back for a review, why should he do it on this one? You take the good with the bad. >>
Well, I'm a seller that has sent cards back to PSA to have them review them for bumps (downward) on over graded cards I've won on ebay. I sent back 10 cards earlier this year that I felt were very badly 'overgraded'. PSA agreed with me on six of them and agreed to compensate me for their value with some grading vouchers. They sent the cards back in lower graded holders and I sold them this way. I still have the other ugly 8's here that they didn't drop in grade.
They wanted that trash off the market and so did I.
I didn't feel right about selling cards that I felt were grossly overgraded. My rep along with PSA's is on the line every time you sell a graded card.
Obviously grading mistakes happen quite a lot just based on the volume of cards being graded at PSA, but this Killebrew is clearly not a common. I'm sure it's a flip error as this card is at best a PSA 8.
As another poster mentioned this seller should negotiate with PSA to have this card taken off the market and put in it's correct holder and I couldn't agree more.
Why pass the buck? This sellers rep is on the line, I would think they wouldn't want to be known for selling slider graded cards. Can you imagine winning that card in an auction sight unseen? Any buyer would want a refund and so should this seller.
Take the trash off the market. >>
It's like someone selling a PSA 7 with a known surface wrinkle without disclosing it... Speaks volumes about their integrity.
<< <i>It's like someone selling a PSA 7 with a known surface wrinkle without disclosing it... Speaks volumes about their integrity. >>
Or a better way to put it is like someone saying “As long as axtell remains, I will no longer be an active participant, period.”
If someone says they’re going to leave, they should leave, period. Shows a lot about someone’s character to make such a strong statement like that and then not do so. I would guess either that person’s life is so pathetic that they need the boards or they are just a plain liar! Speaks volumes about their integrity.