The Mitchell Report... who's on it?
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MLB's lawyer says the report will be "salacious."
Salacious:
1: arousing or appealing to sexual desire or imagination : lascivious
2 : lecherous, lustful
I guess some of the dirt-writers are gonna replace their porn with this report.
Anyways, it'd have to have a lot more than "Palmiero, Bonds, Giambi, and Canseco used steroids" to really shake things up.
I wonder, if current superstars like A-Rod, Pujols, Clemens, or recent HoFers like Ripken or Gwynn show up on the list, are we gonna see the bottom drop out of the post-1980 card market and perhaps interest in MLB fall to strike year levels?
Salacious:
1: arousing or appealing to sexual desire or imagination : lascivious
2 : lecherous, lustful
I guess some of the dirt-writers are gonna replace their porn with this report.
Anyways, it'd have to have a lot more than "Palmiero, Bonds, Giambi, and Canseco used steroids" to really shake things up.
I wonder, if current superstars like A-Rod, Pujols, Clemens, or recent HoFers like Ripken or Gwynn show up on the list, are we gonna see the bottom drop out of the post-1980 card market and perhaps interest in MLB fall to strike year levels?
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I'll say the biggest names will be......Clemens, and a couple other big name pitchers. I'd not be surprised to see a couple of big names from the Red Sox. Awful lot of guys around the league have dropped a bunch of muscle...
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<< <i>i hope it does live up to the hype. bc the way they draged bonds through all this is complete bs. like i said he wasnt the only person. more like 80%.. >>
I couldn't agree more, and it will make those 'holier than thou' types who voted for the asterisk on the ball to look total buffoons.
The witch hunt perpetuated by MLB and the media against Bonds was disgusting - Bud Selig being forced to stand up, albeit with hands in pockets, during Bonds' tying of the home run record was equally disgusting.
If it comes out that a good number of high profile players are implicated, does this force Selig out? How can he be able to retain his position as commissioner with this rampant abuse going on?
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My guess is it will be after the world series because if there are a lot of individual names listed it will be a huge media
distraction that would overshadow the series itself and they don't want that to happen.
it's all going to come out in the wash!
He has already admitted to have used steroids for years. Afterall, he was known as the "chemist."
I think McGwire will be on the list. I think the only reason he was evasive about it was not that he is some jerk (he likely is a nice guy), but because he feared just letting all the truths come out will hurt a lot of people in some way. I think that there is something more complex to McGwire than simply him being in denial. I could be wrong as this is mere speculation. There is no doubt we all think there is something peculiar about McGwire, but we have no idea about the complexities behind it all. I am curious to know what really is going on.
The Palmeiro case was strange. He has not tested positive in the previous years before his news breaking positive test. I think a lot of these tests were not ahead of steroid cover up technology. Why Palmeiro got careless after his congressional testimony is what remains a curiousity. Why he remains in denial is strange too. Giambi came out of this the best. He has been using it for years and now people don't really care anymore. Its all about the people who keep denying.
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I couldn't agree more, and it will make those 'holier than thou' types who voted for the asterisk on the ball to look total buffoons.
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No it won't. Even if a significant portion of major league players were roiding (likely) during the time Bonds* was breaking all the records, it won't validate his achievements. He still cheated and it helped him break the record. Just like if all track runners in a record setting race where on drugs, it doesn't mean the winner of the race is the valid champ and record holder.
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No it won't. Even if a significant portion of major league players were roiding (likely) during the time Bonds* was breaking all the records, it won't validate his achievements. He still cheated and it helped him break the record. Just like if all track runners in a record setting race where on drugs, it doesn't mean the winner of the race is the valid champ and record holder. >>
Uhm, yes it will. When people realize that a vast majority of major leaguers were juicing, then they will realize that Bonds achieved his HRs on a level playing field.
Bosox1976
<< <i>Not a level playing field relative to Hank Aaron's. >>
Sure it was...pitchers juicing, throwing harder and more effectively absolutely elevated the entire playing field.
Bosox1976
Do you think Glavine, Shilling, Clemens, Sabathia, Santana, etc…. throw harder and more effective than Bob Gibson?
<< <i>stitzen,
Do you think Glavine, Shilling, Clemens, Sabathia, Santana, etc…. throw harder and more effective than Bob Gibson? >>
I am talking across the board, not individual players. It's not the top flight guys who need to use to keep their job (although it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out Clemens used), but it's the second and third tier guys.
Some names will be missed, some may be based on incorrect information. . .