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Honus Wagner Card found in attic...No Really, It was on the news

AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
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My mom saw this today and sent it to me. What do you guys think?

Million Dollar Card Found in Attic

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  • vintagetoppsguyvintagetoppsguy Posts: 871
    My wife was telling me about this. It just seems too good to be true. If someone knew the value, why would they store it in an attic and not a safety deposit box? And they would have had to have known the value, otherwise what would be the purpose of "hiding" it? Now if it were many T206's that were found (like the recent find) and it happen to have a Wagner, that would sound more believable. But just to find a single Wagner, that just doesn't add up.
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    10K for authentication? Wow, that must be some walk-thru service!!


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  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's got a 350-460 back. It's fake. Reporters should do their homework
    before covering another Fake Wagner.
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    I am SURE GEM would grade it for 10k image
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    i dont have speakers on my computer because i find noise from computers very annoying ,dont the stupid guy at the card shop know its fake just from looking at one of the ones show that he has that are real?-they dont have 350-400 backs on them?i cant heard what he says and dont particularly want to go to my garage to listen to it on the other one lol
    randy
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,253 ✭✭✭
    Reminds me of those two jerk offs that were all over the place trying to sell their Wagner about a year ago.
  • Cokin75Cokin75 Posts: 243 ✭✭
    Was it stuck in a Batman comic book for safe keeping?
  • killingdreamkillingdream Posts: 232
    It's obviously a fake , but regardless what kind of imbecile would pay $50,000 for something that isn't even authenticated ?
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd say the odds of ever finding another "undiscovered" T206 Wagner at this point in time are about as close to 0 as can be gotten. I'd be pretty sure there's still some in private collections that the public isn't aware of, but these aren't "hidden" - I mean think of the long odds of just finding a T206 card "hidden" somewhere - that's very long odds in itself and then that card being a Wagner? Simply ain't gonna happen.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    lol, more bs


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  • bifff257bifff257 Posts: 751 ✭✭


    << <i>It just seems too good to be true. If someone knew the value, why would they store it in an attic and not a safety deposit box? And they would have had to have known the value, otherwise what would be the purpose of "hiding" it? Now if it were many T206's that were found (like the recent find) and it happen to have a Wagner, that would sound more believable. But just to find a single Wagner, that just doesn't add up. >>




    Good Point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • fur72fur72 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭
    I guess I dont understand everyones reason to pass judgement so quickly from viewing the video? What sticks out on the card that makes it appear fake? Second when did Corey Feldman open a sports card shop?
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  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    Makes you wonder if the guy on the news knows it is a reprint and is fishing for a buyer? If he did get burned then whoever told him it was found in an attic knew it was fake. If the guy had $25,000 in cash and $25,000 in cards you would think he would know better.
  • vintagetoppsguyvintagetoppsguy Posts: 871


    << <i>If the guy had $25,000 in cash and $25,000 in cards you would think he would know better. >>



    RIGHT! And you would also think that if he were that concerned about paying off his house, he would have used that $25K and sold his cards to do so!
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Found in Michigan?? Wow pretty decent for sitting in a Michigan attic during those winters and summers. Hopefully this is all true though a story like this is good for the hobby.
  • sonoranmonsoonsonoranmonsoon Posts: 2,078 ✭✭


    << <i>I guess I dont understand everyones reason to pass judgement so quickly from viewing the video? What sticks out on the card that makes it appear fake? Second when did Corey Feldman open a sports card shop? >>



    I did not watch the vidio, it would not come up for me. To the best of my knowledge, no Wagners were being printed when the 350-460 backs came out. I may be wrong though.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    < guess I dont understand everyones reason to pass judgement so quickly from viewing the video? What sticks out on the card that makes it appear fake? Second when did Corey Feldman open a sports card shop> fur72



    the 350--400 back on it, clear reprint,looka t back or reg real ones-thats whay i cant figure out why guy in crad shop dont know,i cant hear what he saying,no spekers on this puter,corey feldman lol
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I guess I dont understand everyones reason to pass judgement so quickly from viewing the video? What sticks out on the card that makes it appear fake? Second when did Corey Feldman open a sports card shop? >>



    Watch the Video. It clearly shows the card with a Piedmont 350-460 back . The card was pulled during the first run and only appears with a
    Piedmont 150 or Sweet Caporal 150 back from 1909. 350-460's were printed in 1911. It doesnt have a factory designation on the bottom of the card. 2 seconds is all you need with the card to prove it's fake. More BS news.

    Anyone stipid enough to pay that kind of money for a fake deserves what they get. He got his 15 minutes of fame.
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    I'll bet the whole story is a hoax about buying it for 25k, etc.

    Guaranteed the guy knows it's fake
  • ArchStantonArchStanton Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭
    The buyer's body language strongly suggests that he knows he is being deceitful.
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  • zippyzippy Posts: 399
    I have been collecting since 1957 & I can't recall even one instance where A non-collector found a genuine T-206 Wagner card
    I guess the odds of finding a genuine Wagner card is so tiny the odds of you walking on the moon tomorrow is better
    Also if this card was authentic, why did the seller sell it for only $50K
    any Wagner now is a 6 figure card
    If this card was real it looks to be worth $200-300K
    Even a moron wouldn't just flip this card for so cheap
    Also why is auctioning off so quickly?
    It's on the auction block today & being sold A OK Auctioneers
    Guess he couldn't find the phone # for SCP, Mastro or REA Auctions
    Also one thing you always notice is these guys NEVER trust a reputable grading service to authenticate the card
    But he's willing to pay $10K to get it authenticated but some idiot
    won't PSA or SGC do it for A $100 or so?
    Also the big question is
    Isn't it illegal to sell counterfeit items?
    Why doesn't the FBI go to the auction site today
    Confiscate the card & send it to PSA & SGC to get their opinions on it's authenticity
    If it's phony
    Arrest the Auctioneer & the cosignor for conspiring to defraud the public
    They both know the card is a fake
    That's why the card wasn't grade by a reputable grading service
    They both wanted to make a quick buck
    We see this happening 100's of times or more on Ebay daily
    Sellers offering phony sportcards, coins etc
    & Ebay & everyone just seems to want to overlook this problem
    & I don't see anything happening to make things better



  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    Meg Ryan says--"Fake,Fake,Fake,Fake"
  • bifff257bifff257 Posts: 751 ✭✭
    just Watched the video of a second time,,,


    That is a nice touch with the microscope they show..... image


    I wonder how you guys were able to determine it was not authentic with out such a complex piece of equipment to examine the card... image

    Maybe he can send the board that $10,000 he was willing to pay....image

  • baseballfanaticbaseballfanatic Posts: 2,415 ✭✭
    Card and story are fake.
    Must be a sluggish news day..........
  • PittfanPittfan Posts: 476
    So much for him paying off his house. image
  • elsnortoelsnorto Posts: 2,012 ✭✭
    They mentioned the same story I have heard many times before, that the scarcity is due to Wagner objecting to his image being used to sell tobacco products. However, I thought that was debunked some time ago and it was really about compensation. Can any of you baseball guys clarify this point?

    Snorto~
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He appeared on other tobacco products before and after the T206's.
    The theory is compensation, but of course no one knows for sure.
    As with the Plank card (theory broken plate ) I don't think anyone
    will ever find out the truth.
    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    biff--read 2dueces---"It's got a 350-460 back. It's fake. Reporters should do their homework
    before covering another Fake Wagner. "
  • bifff257bifff257 Posts: 751 ✭✭


    << <i> biff--read 2dueces---"It's got a 350-460 back. >>




    I know that, i was just injecting a bit of sarcasm.... image
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The buyer's body language strongly suggests that he knows he is being deceitful. >>



    I was thinking that exact same thing, playing with his ring was one thing I noticed!!
  • TomGshotputTomGshotput Posts: 1,358
    You can ask him directly if he really thinks the card is real:

    http://www.higbees.com/index.php?fuseaction=main.contact
    Tom
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    dont matter if he thinks its real or not, back tells me its as fake a bill clinton 3$ bill
  • TNTonPMSTNTonPMS Posts: 2,279 ✭✭
    Wow, I hadn't heard about that anywhere !

    I'm not able to get the video either, just goin by sense of smell here .

    Who's gettin 10 K to authenticate and why so much money

    and what if it is fake , what happens ? still got to pay the 10 G?

    I wish I could see that ~!

    That absolutely has to be bogus though . . .

    Who said slow news day ?
    That's probably the more likely scenario ?

    Anyone know where to get a transcript of that story ?
  • jrinckjrinck Posts: 1,321 ✭✭
    Only a true dummy would try to nationally publicize a fake, but that's exactly what it looks like is happening here.

    I've often wondered why people don't counterfeit five dollar bills. Nobody ever checks, and you could go your entire life passing them around and never get caught, versus the instant scrutiny of counterfeiting 100's and even 20's.

    The mind of the modern scammer is an odd one, indeed.
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